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Generation Z comes after the millenials.   They're the ones born from 1995.    They tend to be more fiscally and socially conservative!

 

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According to research, Gen Z is more individualistic, more conservative both socially and fiscally, and they’re already making waves of impact on our political system. Gen Z, those born in 1995 or later, is possibly the most conservative generation since World War II, and it is worrying that their impact has been completely overlooked during this election. While our fears might be preemptive, we should not make the mistake of disregarding the intriguing yet also possibly worrying world views of Generation Z.

What’s worrying is that given their more conservative leanings, Gen Z was not taken into account during this election, even though for many of them it was their first. Younger generations are famous for being liberal, therefore we mistakenly assumed that Gen Z would vote Democratic.

But studies show that Gen Z’s views closely resemble those of Libertarian or Moderate Republicans, and that they related with Donald Trump on issues like national security and job creation.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#58b87c177878

 

Trump's policies must be resonating with them.  It'll be interesting to see how they'll vote in the next election.

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, betsy said:

Generation Z comes after the millenials.   They're the ones born from 1995.    They tend to be more fiscally and socially conservative!

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#58b87c177878

 

Trump's policies must be resonating with them.  It'll be interesting to see how they'll vote in the next election.

 

 

 

I wonder how that explains millennials around the world all in the same position of understanding the previous generations sold them down the river.

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37 minutes ago, betsy said:

Generation Z comes after the millenials.   They're the ones born from 1995.    They tend to be more fiscally and socially conservative!

Trump's policies must be resonating with them.  It'll be interesting to see how they'll vote in the next election.

I suspect there's a stark divide between economic conservatism or libertarianism and social liberalism among this group. It's not at all surprising that the "gig employment" generation, which has been told that full time employment with benefits is a thing of the past, is onside with economic libertarianism. On the other hand, I suspect most have no interest in rolling back civil rights, gay rights, gender equality or abortion rights. For younger people, it's likely these issues are for the most part considered closed rather than open for reinterpretation. Trump's rigging of the Supreme Court in order to please the religious right so-cons could put him and his party at odds with many younger Americans. The Dems will have to figure out a way to channel this perspective while accommodating the increasing acceptance of economic conservatism among younger voters.

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Meh, I wouldn't put much stock into polls at this point telling you anything about "generation z". There's probably a hundred billion pages of ink spilled about what millenials do and don't like, and it's all self-contradictory and mostly wrong, and the same will be the case with generation z. Views on issues vary much more based on geography, family history, formative events, what school one went to, and ultimately just any given individual's own thoughts, than they do based on generation. Moreover even for any given individual, views change over time. 

People love to make sweeping broad generalizations but for the most part its just useless punditry, in reality, people couldn't even predict which blue states would turn red during the last election. 

All that said, I wouldn't be surprised if the current stew of social justice ideology brewing among the left half of society generates a substantial backlash and eventually alienates a great many people. 

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The abortion battle was enjoined long before Trump came along, with significant rollbacks due to government policies for federal funding,  Planned Parenthood tissue donation scandal, state laws imposing limits and informed consent, closed/understaffed "reproductive rights" clinics,  etc.   Canadian women seeking abortions in the U.S. by the thousands each year faced a new barrier when passports were required to cross the U.S. border.

Abortion rates in the U.S. have now dropped to historic lows, below 1973 levels. 

https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2017/us-abortion-rate-continues-decline-hits-historic-low

It is not clear to me that the abortion issue rings so loud for Generation Z compared to previous "generations".

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17 hours ago, betsy said:

Generation Z comes after the millenials.   They're the ones born from 1995.    They tend to be more fiscally and socially conservative!

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#58b87c177878

 

Trump's policies must be resonating with them.  It'll be interesting to see how they'll vote in the next election.

 

Lol, they will learn, most of the left wingers started out on the right wing.  Also how many people born after 95 could vote in a 2016 election?  You'd have just 3 years, 21, 20, 19, and SOME 18 y/os depending on if they registered to vote.  You also have to factor in that Clinton was extremely unpopular with the young people and Sanders was popular but DWS rigged the democrat primary against bernie causing many young to boycott hilary.  Plus once Trump's court strips away their abortion rights, they'll turn liberal real fast.

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3 hours ago, H10 said:

Lol, they will learn, most of the left wingers started out on the right wing.

 

I think you got that the other way around.   Young ones tend to be liberals - but as they age, they end up becoming conservatives.

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18 hours ago, betsy said:

I think you got that the other way around.   Young ones tend to be liberals - but as they age, they end up becoming conservatives.

Nope, this was debunked by studies, people who are conservatives end up being liberals because they see when cons take power they are complete hypocrites.  Most of the old liberals are like Hilarly Clinton, started out as conservative republicans, saw all the hypocrisy and jumped ship.

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2 hours ago, H10 said:

 Most of the old liberals are like Hilarly Clinton, started out as conservative republicans, saw all the hypocrisy and jumped ship.

The reference to Hillary Clinton is weak. Prior to the 1980s or perhaps the 1990s the ideological delineation between Republicans and Democrats was not the same as today. The Republican Party was the party of Lincoln and for most of its modern history, until recently, was relatively progressive by the standards of the day. The Democratic Party, on the other hand, was often resistant to civil rights, particularly in the Southern states, where the "Solid South" constituted a significant socially conservative voting  bloc for it into the 1960s. When Hillary Clinton was younger, today's "red state" South was conservatively "blue" in its political affiliation. My mother, who was born and raised in the North, was a registered Republican voter prior to moving to Canada at the beginning of the 1950s. Until that time, and for a few decades thereafter, the generally moderate Republican Party was far different from the often reactionary and hyperpartisan institution that's recently emerged. It might be more accurate to say that the Republican Party moved away from people like Hillary Clinton rather than they left it. Oh, and Hillary married a Democrat, so she had further incentive to switch.

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On 7/1/2018 at 10:47 AM, turningrite said:

The reference to Hillary Clinton is weak. Prior to the 1980s or perhaps the 1990s the ideological delineation between Republicans and Democrats was not the same as today. The Republican Party was the party of Lincoln and for most of its modern history, until recently, was relatively progressive by the standards of the day. The Democratic Party, on the other hand, was often resistant to civil rights, particularly in the Southern states, where the "Solid South" constituted a significant socially conservative voting  bloc for it into the 1960s. When Hillary Clinton was younger, today's "red state" South was conservatively "blue" in its political affiliation. My mother, who was born and raised in the North, was a registered Republican voter prior to moving to Canada at the beginning of the 1950s. Until that time, and for a few decades thereafter, the generally moderate Republican Party was far different from the often reactionary and hyperpartisan institution that's recently emerged. It might be more accurate to say that the Republican Party moved away from people like Hillary Clinton rather than they left it. Oh, and Hillary married a Democrat, so she had further incentive to switch.

Actually you strengthen my point, Hilary worked on Barry Goldwater's campaign who promised to overturn civil rights laws and restore segregation in the 60s.  Most people become more liberal as they get older and wiser, she started off as a strict segregationist in favour of goldwater. 

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