GostHacked Posted March 20, 2018 Report Posted March 20, 2018 http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43458110 Huge Facebook data breach. However ..... http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/christopher-wylie-canada-libeals-cambridge-analytica-1.4582190 What I am thinking is that had played a large role in the support online via Facebook for Trump. This would seem to me that this had more of an effect than the so called 'Russian Troll Farms'. Or the alleged Russian Facebook Bots to influence people to vote for Trump. So it may not really have been the Russians. It could have been Canadians that helped Trump. Quote Cambridge Analytica, the company named by Wylie as being behind the massive leak, exploited private social media activity to help allow the Trump campaign to better target voters by profiling their behaviour and personalities ahead of the U.S. election, according to the reports. The firm connected with Trump's political adviser Steve Bannon, whom Wylie also met, the reports said. They may also be partly responsible for the Brexit vote in the UK Quote Another article published May 2017 by The Guardian quoted a source that connected Wylie to a web analytics company in Victoria, B.C., called AggregateIQ. The firm has come under scrutiny in Britain for its possible role in helping the Leave campaign win the Brexit referendum. I am not sure if this should go here or the Canadian Politics Federal category. Quote
eyeball Posted March 20, 2018 Report Posted March 20, 2018 3 hours ago, GostHacked said: I am not sure if this should go here or the Canadian Politics Federal category. The Morals and Ethics (or lack thereof) category would be more apropos I think. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
GostHacked Posted March 20, 2018 Author Report Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, eyeball said: The Morals and Ethics (or lack thereof) category would be more apropos I think. I think this belong here as it seemed to be more of a problem and had more of an influence compared to the so called 'Russian hackers' Bannon is on the board of that analytic company. Kushner hired them. This is more damning evidence of Trump collusion, but it seems to be that it was not the Russians he was colluding with. Quote
Thinkinoutsidethebox Posted March 20, 2018 Report Posted March 20, 2018 If voters are depending on Facebook to make decisions they deserve what they get. This makes the west look like a population of idiots... Quote
GostHacked Posted March 20, 2018 Author Report Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Thinkinoutsidethebox said: If voters are depending on Facebook to make decisions they deserve what they get. This makes the west look like a population of idiots... Voters depend on a lot of things. Proper information is one of them. Quote
eyeball Posted March 20, 2018 Report Posted March 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, GostHacked said: Voters depend on a lot of things. Proper information is one of them. There's lots of voters who appear to prefer bullshit too and I don't think it takes very many to produce the critical mass needed to drag the rest down, especially given the small demographic slices that so many elections now appear to hinge on. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
GostHacked Posted March 20, 2018 Author Report Posted March 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, eyeball said: There's lots of voters who appear to prefer bullshit too and I don't think it takes very many to produce the critical mass needed to drag the rest down, especially given the small demographic slices that so many elections now appear to hinge on. Oh no doubt. So it seems that the voters are to blame more than the Russians or Canadians trying to influence the election. Quote
eyeball Posted March 20, 2018 Report Posted March 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, GostHacked said: So it seems that the voters are to blame more than the Russians or Canadians trying to influence the election. As it should be in a democracy, ignorance is certainly no excuse. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
OftenWrong Posted March 21, 2018 Report Posted March 21, 2018 4 hours ago, GostHacked said: Voters depend on a lot of things. Proper information is one of them. Since when is there some kind of necessity to tell the truth about one's opponent during an election? Quote
Thinkinoutsidethebox Posted March 21, 2018 Report Posted March 21, 2018 Social media is a place for discussion, news and research should be done elsewhere. They are trying to be everything to everyone, this is the result and if people don't get their act together and jump start their brains it's just going to get worse. Quote
GostHacked Posted March 21, 2018 Author Report Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: Since when is there some kind of necessity to tell the truth about one's opponent during an election? The one big problem with the Democrat's approach in the last election, was they showed us what they were against, but not what they were for. Even with Clinton's recent trip to India, she still seems to blame the voters. But the thing is, she won popular vote, no contest. But there are the electoral college votes that seem to be more important. It would be nice if we got a bit of truth, not sure if Trump was able to deliver on that, we shall see. 31 minutes ago, Thinkinoutsidethebox said: Social media is a place for discussion, news and research should be done elsewhere. They are trying to be everything to everyone, this is the result and if people don't get their act together and jump start their brains it's just going to get worse. The Internet is nothing more of an echo chamber for what people are really thinking. I guess for the most part, but then again, could you even trust that information knowing more and more that everything is manipulated online. I can even say that in this forum (put tin foil hat on) that it is possible it happens here. If you cannot trust what you see on Facebook, then many other places should be suspect as well. But now we seem to have direct evidence that Trump has actually been colluding with a foreign entity. Kicker is, it may not have been the Russians!!! Holy crap, this was a South Park episode right? Trump colluding with the Canadians to win the election while blaming Russia? That seems to go against their 'Blame Canada'. This is all so damn amusing to me. Quote
Thinkinoutsidethebox Posted March 21, 2018 Report Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, GostHacked said: The one big problem with the Democrat's approach in the last election, was they showed us what they were against, but not what they were for. Even with Clinton's recent trip to India, she still seems to blame the voters. But the thing is, she won popular vote, no contest. But there are the electoral college votes that seem to be more important. It would be nice if we got a bit of truth, not sure if Trump was able to deliver on that, we shall see. It was the voters, she had allot more to do with losing the election than Trump, Russia or whomever, she's had a whole career to change it if it wasn't to her benefit, Trump actually beat her at her own game. Quote The Internet is nothing more of an echo chamber for what people are really thinking. I guess for the most part, but then again, could you even trust that information knowing more and more that everything is manipulated online. I can even say that in this forum (put tin foil hat on) that it is possible it happens here. If you cannot trust what you see on Facebook, then many other places should be suspect as well. This is 100% true, that being said newspapers, magazines, radio and TV of the past is no different, they are all controlled and presented by human beings and as such there will always be bias, non interactive news on the internet is no different and should be approached with an open mind and backup research. Social media is living interactive machine that depends on clicks and advertising for profit it doesn't nore should it be a source of reliable news. The platform doesn't even lend itself to work with unbiased news, it's designed to mine your data and return with advertising and news based on your profile, it has nothing to do with the real world. None of this is social media's fault, as a matter of fact the "news" it provides should become even more outlandish so it can be considered in the same league as The Enquirer which is exactly what it is. Quote But now we seem to have direct evidence that Trump has actually been colluding with a foreign entity. Kicker is, it may not have been the Russians!!! Holy crap, this was a South Park episode right? Trump colluding with the Canadians to win the election while blaming Russia? That seems to go against their 'Blame Canada'. This is all so damn amusing to me. His intention was to win the election which is exactly what he did, again if we are stupid enough to believe what we see on social media without researching it we deserve what we get. Remember he doesn't need the Russians or Canadians to Tweet the crap he did. Clinton was no different and neither are many other politicians in today's world, the masses are sheep and all politicians are doing is finding new ways to herd them in their favor. It is hilarious and the likes of Zuckerberg are laughing all the way to the bank. Actually the Russians should find this hilarious as well, it just proves how gullible the American public really is. Edited March 21, 2018 by Thinkinoutsidethebox More thoughts and corrections :-) Quote
Thinkinoutsidethebox Posted March 29, 2018 Report Posted March 29, 2018 I think this should puts it in perspective... "Facebook makes their money by exploiting and selling intimate details about the private lives of millions, far beyond the scant details you voluntarily post. They are not victims, they are accomplices…Businesses that make money by collecting and selling detailed records of private lives were once plainly described as “surveillance companies.” Their rebranding as “social media” is the most successful deception since the Department of War became the Department of Defense.” Quote
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