Say It Ain't So! Now It's A Liberals Turn.

[AngusThermopyle]

Now this is interesting. A Provincial Liberal cabinet member accused of sexual assault, right about the same time as the Brown allegations were made. Yet not a peep from Wynne or Trudeau regarding this. They wouldn't be biased in their outrage would they? It's funny how no one heard anything about this until now, almost as if someone was trying to keep it quiet, that can't be true though. After all, everyone knows that Liberals are shining paragons of virtue.

http://torontosun.com/news/provincial/ontario-liberal-cabinet-minister-sexually-assaulted-woman-lawyer?fb_comment_id=fbc_1752417928152429_1752497004811188_1752497004811188

[?Impact]

2 minutes ago, AngusThermopyle said:

Yet not a peep from Wynne or Trudeau regarding this.

Trudeau has been very swift in dealing with issues in his government in the past, and this is not his government nor do you indicate how he is aware of this allegation. Why exactly do you bring him into this if other than simple partisan bullcrap.

Wynne has been asked and denies any knowledge of this, that was clearly stated in the article you provided.

 

Sounds like a bunch of hot air to me.

[capricorn]

50 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Wynne has been asked and denies any knowledge of this,

Wynne is a pathological liar. She'll say and do anything to stay in power and defend her crooked Liberal party. This is not over, the truth will out.

[?Impact]

2 minutes ago, capricorn said:

Wynne is a pathological liar...

yawn

[Michael Hardner]

So they deny the allegation - but what are they doing about it now ?

[?Impact]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

So they deny the allegation - but what are they doing about it now ?

Good question, where do they get the details from to proceed? So far we have an anonymous allegation about an anonymous MPP about something unknown. It seems like the ball in Nunziata's hands, a tweet is not the way to launch an investigation.

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Good question, where do they get the details from to proceed?

Well - the Ontario PCs did a Carrie-style dump of pig blood on their leader when he was suspected.  Maybe the Liberals should ask their witch or something ?

[AngusThermopyle]

1 hour ago, ?Impact said:

Trudeau has been very swift in dealing with issues in his government in the past, and this is not his government nor do you indicate how he is aware of this allegation. Why exactly do you bring him into this if other than simple partisan bullcrap.

Wynne has been asked and denies any knowledge of this, that was clearly stated in the article you provided.

 

Sounds like a bunch of hot air to me.

Now that's the biggest pile of sh*t posted here for quite a while. Trudeau swift? How about his swiftness in dealing with Monseff? Her citizenship and passport problems still linger and haven't been dealt with. Nor do they appear to be any sort of priority for her or Trudeau. How about Hehr, he didn't deal with those repeat problems in a swift manner. The list of painstakingly slow swift actions goes on and on with Trudeau.

As for your non point of it not being his government. well it didn't seem to matter when it was Brown accused. He certainly was swift with that one. He was pontificating about it before you could blink. So no, not partisan bullcrap, as you so eloquently put it. Rather a legitimate question. He didn't hesitate to weigh in and engage in some more vacuous virtue signaling when it was Brown. So why wouldn't he do the same now? Wait a minute! I know why. He did say he waits for people to tell him what's going on, doesn't follow silly stuff like the news. Maybe he just hasn't been told yet. I expect we'll hear from him soon when someone tells him, after all he didn't need any facts or proof in Browns case.

[AngusThermopyle]

43 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Good question, where do they get the details from to proceed? So far we have an anonymous allegation about an anonymous MPP about something unknown. It seems like the ball in Nunziata's hands, a tweet is not the way to launch an investigation.

Let me get this straight. You say details are needed. You say it's just anonymous allegations. You say a tweet is no the way to launch an investigation. Yet you persist in insisting Brown is some monster who abused women. You base this on...wait for it...basically the same points you claim are not valid in this situation.

It must really hurt to be you. The human mind is just not designed to be twisted into such illogical pretzels.

[?Impact]

3 minutes ago, AngusThermopyle said:

He didn't hesitate to weigh in and engage in some more vacuous virtue signaling when it was Brown. So why wouldn't he do the same now?

Weigh in on what, a tweet that says absolutely nothing?

1 minute ago, AngusThermopyle said:

Yet you persist in insisting Brown is some monster who abused women.

I have never stated that - period. I have made comments about the nature of the allegations since some like to pretend they don't mean anything. I have made comments about people making allegations based on nothing but their own wishes, like those against these women and CTV. I keep trying to bring the conversation back to talking about facts, or alleged facts, yet you keep coming up with fairy dust.

[AngusThermopyle]

There appears to be some cognitive dissonance going on here. Or perhaps, unthinkable as it may be, Wynne and her people are lying.

“However, we can confirm that since becoming premier in 2013, Premier Wynne has not been informed of any complaints of this nature against any member of her cabinet.

“In saying that, we take these types of matters very seriously,” she added. “When our office receives information related to sexual misconduct, we engage the services of outside counsel and, where appropriate, retain the services of those with expertise in workplace investigations."

So there have never been any complaints, yet when there are they engage the services, and blah blah blah. What is it, never? Or they've engaged the services? Or maybe just a huge bunch of lies.

 

 

[Hal 9000]

On 2/16/2018 at 8:42 AM, ?Impact said:

Good question, where do they get the details from to proceed? So far we have an anonymous allegation about an anonymous MPP about something unknown. It seems like the ball in Nunziata's hands, a tweet is not the way to launch an investigation.

"Details...Investigation",  Gah, what world do you live in man?

[AngusThermopyle]

It's hard to believe but there hasn't been a word about this in the news lately. While the media continues the Patrick Brown saga add nauseum this one apparently has disappeared. Who woulda thunk it! It's almost like there's an effort at hand to make this just vanish. That's crazy though, right.

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, AngusThermopyle said:

It's hard to believe but there hasn't been a word about this in the news lately. While the media continues the Patrick Brown saga add nauseum this one apparently has disappeared. Who woulda thunk it! It's almost like there's an effort at hand to make this just vanish. That's crazy though, right.

I imagine they're digging around to find what's going on.  If something comes out in the next few days, will your suspicions of an "effort" go away ?

[Michael Hardner]

btw... theories about the Patrick Brown story being some kind of trick to boost Wynne seem to have missed the fact that the Conservatives are now even more popular.  

Now - does that mean that the people behind these conspiracies are stupid ?  That the conspiracy came from within the PC party ?  Or maybe things just happen sometimes.  Hmmm.

[?Impact]

4 hours ago, AngusThermopyle said:

It's hard to believe but there hasn't been a word about this in the news lately.

What is hard to believe? News requires something 'new'.

[AngusThermopyle]

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I imagine they're digging around to find what's going on.  If something comes out in the next few days, will your suspicions of an "effort" go away ?

To a large degree they would. However given the media's left leaning slant that's obvious to all but those who are willfully blind to it, I doubt it could ever be completely dispelled.

[AngusThermopyle]

6 hours ago, ?Impact said:

What is hard to believe? News requires something 'new'.

Really. They went on for month after month every night about Duffy, even though there was nothing new to report. CTV didn't even need facts or fact checking for the Brown saga, just jump in and go all out, thus a $10 million lawsuit resulted. In this case however the entire attitude appears to be a nothing to see here folks, just move along kind of thing. Given past precedent it looks just a little fishy. Unless of course you don't want to see what's there.

[Michael Hardner]

36 minutes ago, AngusThermopyle said:

To a large degree they would. However given the media's left leaning slant that's obvious to all but those who are willfully blind to it, I doubt it could ever be completely dispelled.

Ignoring something of that scale goes beyond bias, it's willful dereliction of duty and unprofessionalism.

[?Impact]

54 minutes ago, AngusThermopyle said:

However given the media's left leaning slant that's obvious to all but those who are willfully blind to it, I doubt it could ever be completely dispelled.

What a load. This was followed up by Wynne on the 16th saying she was contacted about allegations about a former Liberal cabinet minister, one that never served under her or Dalton McGuinty. The incident is supposed to have happened in 2006, so whoever it was is long out of government at that time. Most likely it would have been someone in David Peterson`s government (1985-1990).