Altai Posted November 25, 2017 Report Posted November 25, 2017 Sinai peninsula is a region that opposed and resisted against the coup in Egypt. Its one of the most strategic points on the World and was invaded by Israel in the past. In recent months Israel claimed that someones are shooting rockets to Israel from Sinai peninsula (does it sound familiar ? ) and yesterday "ISIS" guys decides to attack a mosque there and murdered 300 persons. Guess what, Egypt govt allowed Israel to operate there to kick "ISIS" guys out of the peninsula (does it sound familiar ?) Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Goddess Posted November 27, 2017 Report Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Jews are responsible for this? I'd like to see a cite once in a while, please. Not just your own opinion all the time. Edited November 27, 2017 by Goddess Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Altai Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) After the attack, illegal terrorist Egypt govt is murdering people randomly in Sinai Peninsula claimin they are killing terrorists. Another illegal terrorists, Israel state govt, said that Sinai is the best place for Palestinians to live. Now another illegal terrorist, US state govt's Military, said that they want to intervene with Sinai Peninsula to kick terrorists out. Edited November 29, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Illegal Egypt govt's foreign minister said "Egypt wont leave even a bunch of its lands" as response to illegal Israel govt's claim that Sinai is the best place for Palestinians to live. Edited November 29, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Boges Posted November 29, 2017 Report Posted November 29, 2017 Still no cite. Of course this is the same poster that said the Las Vegas shooting was caused by the UK. Quote
Altai Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Posted November 29, 2017 Egypt newspaper; "Israel want to empty Sinai, they believe that God was talked to Moses first there in Sinai peninsula, this is why they are planning to invade Sinai, the recent attack was also part of this plan". Hmmm Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Posted November 29, 2017 Israelis says "If we are planning to invade Sinai, it was also ours before and why we delivered it to Egypt for a peace agreement ?" Yup this is a logical question, we need to investigate about it, why they did such a thing or did they really do such a thing ? Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Boges Posted November 29, 2017 Report Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Altai said: Israelis says "If we are planning to invade Sinai, it was also ours before and why we delivered it to Egypt for a peace agreement ?" Yup this is a logical question, we need to investigate about it, why they did such a thing or did they really do such a thing ? Then why didn't they keep it after the 6-Day War? Quote
Altai Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Posted November 29, 2017 It is a false story as usual. Israel leaves some parts of Sinai under some conditions like as Egypt will recognize their illegal terrorist state and some other conditions. They didnt leave it because of they are peaceful guys as its claimed. They leave it because it was the best choice under the conditions of time. Zioshit. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Posted November 29, 2017 Look at that what a zioshit says, "defensive war" by the way.https://twitter.com/yaron_mierowsky/status/934797309635854337 Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Posted November 29, 2017 Now I also learned that Egypt military air vehicles are not allowed by Israel to operate in Sinai since long. Is story not getting clearer with each new step ? Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Goddess Posted November 29, 2017 Report Posted November 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, Altai said: Is story not getting clearer with each new step ? No, because you haven't provided one damn cite. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Hudson Jones Posted November 29, 2017 Report Posted November 29, 2017 It's unhealthy to accept so much conspiracy theories without doing any research. Province of Sinai militants instructed Rawda villagers last week to stop performing Sufi rituals near the mosque where at least 235 were killed in a militant attack on Friday, according to a source in the village that spoke to Mada Masr on condition of anonymity. The source told Mada Masr that the Sufi sheikh in charge of conducting the rituals in the worshipping space in a building facing the mosque complied with the militants’ demands. He added that locals expected an attack on the building was imminent nonetheless, and that they had closed the road adjacent to the building as a precautionary measure. Villagers were surprised, however, that the militants who conducted Friday’s attack in the village in Bir al-Abd, 40 km west of the North Sinai capital of Arish, circumvented the roadblock, according to the source. By Friday evening, families had begun burying victims, according to locals who spoke to Mada Masr. A journalist from North Sinai told Mada Masr that the Armed Forces has barred journalists from photographing the funerals and from entering the Rawda mosque. According to the source from the village, not all Rawda residents participate in the Sufi rituals in the building adjacent to the mosque, and the village had become a site of refuge for families fleeing the North Sinai cities of Sheikh Zuwayed and Rafah to escape fighting between militants and security forces. The mosque also serves as resting space for travellers on the Arish-Qantara Road, especially on Fridays when cars of travellers are often parked outside the mosque during prayer, the source added. Rawda is home to the Jaririya Sufi order, one of the largest Sufi orders in North Sinai. The village’s mosque that was targeted on Friday is one of the main mosques affiliated with the order. The order’s derives its name from Sheikh Eid Abu Jarir — the order’s founder — who hails from Sinai’s Sawarka tribe and the Jarira clan, which resides in the Bir al-Abd area. The motive behind Friday’s militant attack, which was the deadliest in Egyptian history, remains unclear, and no group has claimed responsibility for it. https://www-madamasr-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.madamasr.com/en/2017/11/24/feature/politics/province-of-sinai-ordered-rawda-sufis-to-halt-rituals-1-week-before-friday-attack/amp/ Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Hudson Jones Posted November 29, 2017 Report Posted November 29, 2017 Taylor’s piece here provides some answers to the various questions of how, when and why violence in the Sinai has reached such unprecedented levels, with reference to the terror tracking work of TIMEP. What is clear but not mentioned here is that when the Egyptian president says that “we will respond strongly” this unfortunately means a continuation of an exclusive security approach which has not only proved to be failing but continues to exacerbate the crisis. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/11/24/how-parts-of-egypts-rugged-sinai-peninsula-have-become-a-terrorist-hot-spot/?utm_term=.ca6e92a725ae Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Altai Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) More information: The attack happens quite close to a border gate that Egypt was planning to open more regulary for Palestinians in recent days. This is probably a false information, so not an information. Edited November 29, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Posted November 29, 2017 Another information, four days before the attack, Israel says that they celebrate the anniversary of their "peace" agreement with Egypt, the agreement which they delivered Sinai to Egypt because of international pressures and in exchange to Egypt's recognition of their illegal terrorist state. Just four days ago what a coincidence. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Hudson Jones Posted November 29, 2017 Report Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Altai said: More information: The attack happens quite close to a border gate that Egypt was planning to open more regulary for Palestinians in recent days. This is probably a false information, so not an information. Link? You must have something showing that Egypt was planning to open the border more regularly. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Hudson Jones Posted November 29, 2017 Report Posted November 29, 2017 Okay, here is some information: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/11/rafah-border-crossing-close-day-opening-171120081825413.html Rafah border crossing to remain open for two more days 20 Nov 2017 Gaza's Rafah border crossing with Egypt will remain open for two more days as part of a reconciliation agreement between Fatah and Hamas. Egypt opened its largely sealed border with Gaza on Saturday for what was initially planned to be three days, but that time period was extended by another two days on Monday. The opening came after Hamas gave the Palestinian Authority control over the crossing for the first time since 2007. The Egypt-brokered deal is expected to lead to more regular openings of the Rafah crossing. The Palestinian interior ministry said about 30,000 Palestinians in Gaza have applied for entry to Egypt in the past few months. Egypt's border with the Gaza Strip had been sealed since August, and was largely closed for years before that. Question is now, how will this attack effect the border crossing. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Hudson Jones Posted November 29, 2017 Report Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) I'm doing the work for you Altai. This attack in Egypt plays into the hands of those who are against the opening of the Rafah border crossing between Egypt and Gaza. https://www.thenational.ae/world/mena/sinai-mosque-attack-derails-gazan-hopes-of-rafah-crossing-being-opened-1.679386 Sinai mosque attack derails Gazan hopes of Rafah crossing being opened Massacre reinforces security concerns cited by Egypt for refusing to allow permanent free passage As Israel wants to isolate Hamas by punishing the Gazans, the attack and the subsequent derailing of the Fatah/Hamas agreement in regards to the crossing, is an advantage to the Israelis. However, this is still not evidence that the attack in Egypt was somehow orchestrated by Israel, even though the end results works in Israel's favour. Edited November 29, 2017 by Hudson Jones Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Altai Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Posted November 30, 2017 8 hours ago, Hudson Jones said: However, this is still not evidence that the attack in Egypt was somehow orchestrated by Israel, even though the end results works in Israel's favour. You need to read my evidences, proofs, claims topic. One "coincidence" could be ignored, two "coincidence" could be ignored too, even three "coincidence" could be ignored tooo, but many "coincidences" makes all the coincidences "evidences". Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Posted November 30, 2017 Another information: Israel makes natural gas agreement with Jordan because of pipelines carrying natural gas from Egypt to Jordan been attacked often by "terrorists" in the Sinai. Ohh these coincidences Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Posted November 30, 2017 Former Egypt president says that Israel and US offered to settle Palestinians in Sinai before but he rejected both offers. Hmmm Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) A group (?) named "The sons of Jesus" claims responsibility for Sinai terror attack. Appearently now we have a new labratory product. Edited December 2, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Posted December 5, 2017 Someones in Sinai Peninsula keeps shooting rockets to Israel why they would do such a thing while Israel planning to invade Sinai again ? Does it make sense ? No makes no sense. Its like the story of "ISIS" trying to establish a country but preparing terror attacks all over the World in most strong countries. Does it make sense ? No makes no sense. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
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