Netanyahu: Outraged by Expressions of Racism

[Argus]

2 hours ago, marcus said:

I don't dislike Judaism, Islam and Christianity because I recognize the range and the variety that they come in. Anyone who tries to put Christianity, Islam or Judaism into one category, has very little knowledge of these religions, the people and the cultures. There are sects, groups, sub-categories, whatever you want to call them who have adopted their own interpretation and way of doing things which can be easier to distinguish. Wahabism is one of those. A Wahabist Muslim, who is a Sunni, when you look at the thoughts, beliefs and ideology and what they may deem 'acceptable' is on a different level than, let's say, a Muslim in Syria. Syrian Muslims have different groups and subgroups. Majority are Sunnis. But a Sunni in Syria has a lot more in common with a Shia in Syria, than they would with a Wahabist in Saudi. The point here is that you can't paint a picture with one stroke. It's a shallow and uneducated way of thinking.

Ah, well then, educate me about how the 57 Muslim countries in the world treat non Muslims equally. I mean, there's 57 of them. Scattered across the globe. Surely there must be a broad range of religious values, some of which give equal treatment to women and religious minorities, right? While you're at it, could I get a list of gay pride parades in the Muslim world, please?

2 hours ago, marcus said:

It's like asking why it's not okay for the white apartheid South Africans to hate the blacks, since the blacks are resisting them

Resisting them? We're not talking about Palestinians here. We're talking about the whole Arab world. What did the Jews do to Egypt to cause Egypt to invade Israel's legally established borders? What about Jordan and Saudi Arabia and Syria? Do you mean it's not okay for Israelis to hate Arabs since Arabs are resisting Jews being alive?

2 hours ago, marcus said:

It's a very simple formula; You go into a place, take over another people's land, humiliate them, treat them like shit, kill their people and deny them justice and you will see resistance.

Well not always. I mean, when the Muslim warlords invaded Syria and Lebanon and Israel, Egypt and Turkey they managed to establish firm control by the massive slaughter of 'infidels' and forced the survivors to either convert at sword-point, accept dhimmi status, or flee. Turkey was a Christian country until the 15th Century and it's Christian population is now 0.2%. Now that's how you make sure there's no resistance!

2 hours ago, marcus said:

First of all, you need to be able to separate different areas from each other. Palestinians are not Egyptians and Egyptians are not Iranians and Iranians are not Saudis and Saudis are not Jordanians. You need to go beyond this superficial and uneducated way of looking at people.

Yes, it's not like they all hate Jews. Many Arab countries love Jews! Uh, right?

2 hours ago, marcus said:

Also, not sure where you have been, but mosques and houses are being burnt and vandalized daily in Israel and the Occupied Territories all the time, by Zionist extremists. Not only that, but  did you miss the whole carpet bombing in Gaza, times three? 

Yes, buildings get burned during a war. If mosques are being burned down - with their congregation often inside, in Israel it isn't making it to the news.

[Argus]

2 hours ago, marcus said:

I mean, are you seriously going to try to cover and justify that the IDF booklet stated:  “the concept that non-Jews have equal rights with Jews in Israel goes against the opinion of the Torah, and the state’s representatives have no authority to act against the Torah’s will."

Israel is officially a JEWISH state. The only Jewish state. However, do non-Jews have more rights than non-Muslims in neighbouring countries? Lots more? Yup.

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Just like we call on Iranian clerics and Saudi clerics who are part of the governing and policies of the country.

Yes, but it isn't just them. It's all 57 Muslim countries.

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Look Argus; If our country and other western countries supported any bigoted country both politically and economically, then you will hear it from me.

Just in Trudeau would crawl naked through a valley of broken glass to get approval from Muslim nations. We send money to help many of them, the poorer ones, which is almost all of them, and buy oil from the richer ones. We are on friendly terms with all of them, as far as I know, from Malaysia to Sudan, without regard to how they violate human rights or what their laws say about women, infidels, gays or Jews.

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If we had people on this forum, coming in trying to excuse blatant racism, violence and human rights violations against other people, you would hear it from me.

Israel is not innocent. A country which has been under attack for generations is going to produce a population that is hard, not kindly and tolerant. I don't like the settlements, and wish Israel would disband them and move back out of the West Bank as they did Gaza. But when the Israelis say that would just produce an impoverished nation that hates its guts with a much more powerful army and airforce on its border - funded by the gulf states and Iran - it's hard to deny the likelihood of it. And it's hard to have a lot of warm feelings for the Palestinians given their actions over the last few decades. You talk about how badly they're treated by Israel, but they were treated far better in the past, before the suicide bombings and the intifada.

Edited August 18, 2017 by Argus

[Rue]

9 hours ago, Altai said:

LoL I gave you the verse numbers. Can you please quote from YOUR OWN SOURCES the verse Deuteronomy 25:11-12, Deuteronomy 32:from 39 to 43, Deuteronomy 20: from 10 to 16.

  

 

1. Stop with the lol's just once. Try. Stop giggling and try for one exchange to stop giggling.

2. My source I suggest for you is not neo Nazi web sites but: www.biblestudytools.com/.

3. Next might I explain to you again, you appear to be removing specific passages from particular verses out of chapters and giving them literal meaning. To read The Torah you must understand the words you read are defined by the words before and after them not just the words read by themselves. You can not read Hebrew in isolation. For that matter the Torah is not meant to be read literally. Each sentence is meant to have MANY different meanings. To find all those meanings one has to then go and study the Talmud, the commentaries of Rabbiahs and the Kabala in some cases.

4. If you took the time to stop giggling and treat this or any subject as an adult, you wouldn't have come on this board giggling at the word penis.

5.In fact if you want to understand the laws of war in Judaism you don't just remove passages out of their actual context and meaning from Deuteronomy you have to read al the Torah sections that discuss war, i.e., halakah.com/rst\kingsandwars.pdf

6.You would then have to go to www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/military-law and  icrc.org/eng/assets/files/other/irrc/858_solomon.pdf to find guides on how you read all this.

7. I tried to explain to you taking  any words from the Torah written during the days the words may have been written and thinking they apply today in Judaism is false.

8.If you went to cardozolawreview.com/loomalis/content/28-1/EDREI.WEBSITE.pdf, you would find how the Jewish laws of war were up-dated and revised.

You came on this thread to Jew bait and giggle at penises. You don't want people to discuss the Koran with disrespect and yet you show disrespect with the Torah the very same way others do with the Koran. Say what you want about me,  you have never seen me  ridicule the Koran. I point out with it as I do the Bible both Old and Ndw Testaments that there are many passages.

They can have many meanings. They can easily be pulled out of their context to suit whoever wants to use them, which in your case is to ridicule Jews and with others Christians or Muslims.

As a Zionist my political ideology is neutral to all religions. It treats them all the same in a political state and this is precisely in Israel  Muslim, Jewish and Christian Jews have the option to opt out of family and other cultural laws and be dealt with in Rabbinical, Ecclesiastic (Canon Law) or Sharia Law courts. All citizens of Israel must follow certain laws equally, i.e., homicide, assault and battery, terrorist activities.

If you want to use this thread as an excuse to giggle at Jews go ahead.  Choice is yours.

This Zionist is telling you, the IDF as a military code, its public domain and you can find it.

This Zionist is telling you, I have had friends die following that code putting themselves in direct danger and death so that Palestinian civilians did not die.

This Zionist is telling you that despite the world you now live in you think gives you all the answers about Jews or Palestinians you know neither of us. I know a bit more, enough to know we bleed and die the same way and cry and mourn the same way over our children's death. You want to exploit that and join in this idiotic thread go ahead.

There is friction, real friction, intolerance, discrimination, hatred in all countries including Israel-it does not mean you and I should exploit that to single out certain people to hate justifying that hate saying they hate. That is illogical and your religion prohibits the ridiculing of the Torah and hatred and death in such a manner. How do I know, unlike you I sat and sit in inter-religious faith groups. We do not ridicule each other like you have. I respect the Hindus, Bahaiis, Unitarians, Muslims, Jews, Christians, Budhists, Taoists, gnostic Christians, atheists, humanists, that have taught me things. I am fortunate they did.

 

 

[Rue]

19 hours ago, Hudson Jones said:

Zionists, on the other hand, say they are outraged at racism... even though they are some of the most racist people in the world.

You are a racist pointing the finger at people you call racists. Do you deny you are a racist? Before you call anyone a racist look in the mirror . That was the point made to you under whatever name you choose on this forum.  You do not call out any other people on this forum or yourself as racists, just Jews and that makes you  the very thing you accuse me of.

Your disconnect from that is called cognitive dissonance. Now run along and piss on a Jew I don't have time for your self righteous horseshit.

[Rue]

As this thread continues, more terrorism occurs based on Muslim extremist beliefs. Each time an attack happens fear of Muslims increases and that is now creating in Europe and elsewhere a psychological phenomena for many years Israel has faced alone.

The same people pointing fingers at Israel for being "racist" or "terrorist" are now going to have to decide how they think they will deal with this crap.

No it does not make people tolerant. Its not rocket science.

[kactus]

23 minutes ago, Rue said:

1. Stop with the lol's just once. Try. Stop giggling and try for one exchange to stop giggling.

2. My source I suggest for you is not neo Nazi web sites but: www.biblestudytools.com/.

3. Next might I explain to you again, you appear to be removing specific passages from particular verses out of chapters and giving them literal meaning. To read The Torah you must understand the words you read are defined by the words before and after them not just the words read by themselves. You can not read Hebrew in isolation. For that matter the Torah is not meant to be read literally. Each sentence is meant to have MANY different meanings. To find all those meanings one has to then go and study the Talmud, the commentaries of Rabbiahs and the Kabala in some cases.

4. If you took the time to stop giggling and treat this or any subject as an adult, you wouldn't have come on this board giggling at the word penis.

5.In fact if you want to understand the laws of war in Judaism you don't just remove passages out of their actual context and meaning from Deuteronomy you have to read al the Torah sections that discuss war, i.e., halakah.com/rst\kingsandwars.pdf

6.You would then have to go to www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/military-law and  icrc.org/eng/assets/files/other/irrc/858_solomon.pdf to find guides on how you read all this.

7. I tried to explain to you taking  any words from the Torah written during the days the words may have been written and thinking they apply today in Judaism is false.

8.If you went to cardozolawreview.com/loomalis/content/28-1/EDREI.WEBSITE.pdf, you would find how the Jewish laws of war were up-dated and revised.

You came on this thread to Jew bait and giggle at penises. You don't want people to discuss the Koran with disrespect and yet you show disrespect with the Torah the very same way others do with the Koran. Say what you want about me,  you have never seen me  ridicule the Koran. I point out with it as I do the Bible both Old and Ndw Testaments that there are many passages.

They can have many meanings. They can easily be pulled out of their context to suit whoever wants to use them, which in your case is to ridicule Jews and with others Christians or Muslims.

As a Zionist my political ideology is neutral to all religions. It treats them all the same in a political state and this is precisely in Israel  Muslim, Jewish and Christian Jews have the option to opt out of family and other cultural laws and be dealt with in Rabbinical, Ecclesiastic (Canon Law) or Sharia Law courts. All citizens of Israel must follow certain laws equally, i.e., homicide, assault and battery, terrorist activities.

If you want to use this thread as an excuse to giggle at Jews go ahead.  Choice is yours.

This Zionist is telling you, the IDF as a military code, its public domain and you can find it.

This Zionist is telling you, I have had friends die following that code putting themselves in direct danger and death so that Palestinian civilians did not die.

This Zionist is telling you that despite the world you now live in you think gives you all the answers about Jews or Palestinians you know neither of us. I know a bit more, enough to know we bleed and die the same way and cry and mourn the same way over our children's death. You want to exploit that and join in this idiotic thread go ahead.

There is friction, real friction, intolerance, discrimination, hatred in all countries including Israel-it does not mean you and I should exploit that to single out certain people to hate justifying that hate saying they hate. That is illogical and your religion prohibits the ridiculing of the Torah and hatred and death in such a manner. How do I know, unlike you I sat and sit in inter-religious faith groups. We do not ridicule each other like you have. I respect the Hindus, Bahaiis, Unitarians, Muslims, Jews, Christians, Budhists, Taoists, gnostic Christians, atheists, humanists, that have taught me things. I am fortunate they did.

 

 

Surely if a book like Torah leaves room for misinterpretation by non hebrew speakers like Altai then one can argue that the its content can be used to drive an agenda just like what us being done with Koran by some extremists...

[Hudson Jones]

34 minutes ago, Rue said:

You are a racist pointing the finger at people you call racists. Do you deny you are a racist?

Either show proof of this racism you keep screaming, or shut your hole, you pathetic little man.

[Rue]

1 hour ago, kactus said:

Surely if a book like Torah leaves room for misinterpretation by non hebrew speakers like Altai then one can argue that the its content can be used to drive an agenda just like what us being done with Koran by some extremists...

Surely you understand that encouraging or condoning  others to be bigoted against Judaism  or any other religion or people will not prevent hatred against Islam.

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Edited August 18, 2017 by Rue

[Rue]

1 hour ago, Hudson Jones said:

Either show proof of this racism you keep screaming, or shut your hole, you pathetic little man.

Your responses speak loud and clear as does your selecting out only of Jews to call racists and only Jews for having a country.

You want to spew hatred about Jews or Israel on this forum I will speak out loudly., Hudson Jones is it?

Regards

The Golem

 

Edited August 18, 2017 by Rue

[Hudson Jones]

45 minutes ago, Rue said:

Your responses speak loud and clear as does your selecting out only of Jews to call racists and only Jews for having a country.

Your warped interpretation of my criticism of Zionism, Israel's policies and me pointing to the hypocrisy of Netanyahu about being outraged is not proof. 

You still have not shown how I am a racist. No quotes. No comments. No proof. Therefore, shut your hole, little man.

[Argus]

2 hours ago, kactus said:

Surely if a book like Torah leaves room for misinterpretation by non hebrew speakers like Altai then one can argue that the its content can be used to drive an agenda just like what us being done with Koran by some extremists...

And when we get tens of thousands of Jewish terrorist incidents I'll readily condemn the torah and Jews.

[marcus]

11 hours ago, Argus said:

Resisting them? We're not talking about Palestinians here. We're talking about the whole Arab world.

Correction: I am talking about the Palestinians. You are talking about the Arab world and putting them into one category.

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Just in Trudeau would crawl naked through a valley of broken glass to get approval from Muslim nations. We send money to help many of them, the poorer ones, which is almost all of them, and buy oil from the richer ones. We are on friendly terms with all of them, as far as I know, from Malaysia to Sudan, without regard to how they violate human rights or what their laws say about women, infidels, gays or Jews.

I don't care much about 'The Rebel' talking points. Justin Trudeau tries to please anyone he can. There is no special treatment of Muslims.

Which Muslim countries are we playing favourites with and sending millions to?

Malaysia and Sudan may have some negative internal laws, but they're nowhere close to what Israel has done to the Palestinians. Which is over 70 years of land theft, occupation and systematic ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians through land theft, control of movement, unfair policies and unjust immigration regulations. 

The only blatant support from Canada that I see is with Saudi Arabia. We are selling them products which are being used  by them to kill civilians. We are also buying oil from them, which is a problem for three reasons: #1 - They are horrible human rights violators not only in their own land, but more importantly, #2 - they're supporters of the worst terrorist organizations out there, including ISIS. Not to mention their adventures in Yemen, and #3 - We should be using our own oil! I have repeatedly brought this up in this forum, but there isn't anyone who disagrees with me.

On the other hand, the Israel fanboys and Zionist propagandists are ready to pounce and attack with their desperate and old 'anti-semite' cards and their justification of Israel's 70+ years of brutal treatment of Palestinians that continues to this day.

[Rue]

10 hours ago, marcus said:

Correction: I am talking about the Palestinians.

On the other hand, the Israel fanboys and Zionist propagandists are ready to pounce and attack with their desperate and old 'anti-semite' cards and their justification of Israel's 70+ years of brutal treatment of Palestinians that continues to this day.

Correction Marcus never discusses Palestinians .

He only references Palestine as a  lead in to launch a canned script to piss on Israel for existing as a Jewish state as demonstrated by the above words.

He never discuss Palestinians.

Marcus is an anti semite who holds Israel and Jews to a different standard to all Muslims, Palestinians, Arab states.

Marcus came on this forum to piss on Neyanyahu and Israel as being racist. He will not ever recognize any nation but Israel as racist

Let's call his thread out for the bull shit it is. People pointing the finger at Israel on this thread are they free of any racism or hatred or anyone?

As for discussions on racism, do you think any anti Israeli on this board will acknowledge and disuss racism in Palestine by Palestinians or racism entrenched in he belief system of Islam

that continues to this day?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_Palestinian_territories

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/11/black-palestinians-suffer-racism.html

.http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/209861/10000-black-palestinians-struggle-racism-gaza-daniel-greenfield

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[hot enough]

22 hours ago, Rue said:

1. Stop with the lol's just once. Try. Stop giggling and try for one exchange to stop giggling.

You really are the biggest hypocrite ever, Rue, and there are many Jim Dandies here.

[hot enough]

13 minutes ago, Rue said:

Correction Marcus never discusses Palestinians .

He only references Palestine as a  lead in to launch a canned script to piss on Israel for existing as a Jewish state as demonstrated by the above words.

Consider the unequality, Rue, the theft of Palestinian land since 1948, the treatment of Palestinians by the Israelis. Don't try to pretend you hold some middle ground here. 

[Altai]

1 hour ago, hot enough said:

Consider the unequality, Rue, the theft of Palestinian land since 1948, the treatment of Palestinians by the Israelis. Don't try to pretend you hold some middle ground here. 

The invasion of Palestinian lands is a cooperative terrorism of Britain-US-Zionists and maybe some other countries. I read before how they steal the lands step by step and insidiously by violating many international agreements and laws. 

[Rue]

20 minutes ago, Altai said:

The invasion of Palestinian lands is a cooperative terrorism of Britain-US-Zionists and maybe some other countries. I read before how they steal the lands step by step and insidiously by violating many international agreements and laws. 

Your comment has nothing to do with the thread topic. You also show a complete and total ignorant of the origins of the Palestinian conflict. Maybe some pother countries. Go find out what the League of Nations was. Gp find out the role hina, Russia and Germmany have played in addition to France.

Your comment clearly shows you have no knowledge of the subject so why come on this forum and try change the topic? You did come on to giggle at calling Israel racist. You then decided to remove torah quotes out of their actual meaning and context to giggle at Jews and suggest we go around cutting off penises.

Now this

You want to start a topic on why you hate Judaism start one, You want to start a topic on  your twisted take on history as to the origins of the Palestinian conflict do so.

Problem is everytime you start a thread it usually dies out pretty quickly.

 

[Altai]

More verses from Torah;

"and they utterly destroyed all the things in the city, men, women, young, old, ox, sheep, with the edge of their sword." Joshua 6:21 


This is the mentality of Israelis, their inspiration source. 

[Altai]

1 hour ago, Rue said:

Your comment has nothing to do with the thread topic. You also show a complete and total ignorant of the origins of the Palestinian conflict. Maybe some pother countries. Go find out what the League of Nations was. Gp find out the role hina, Russia and Germmany have played in addition to France.

Your comment clearly shows you have no knowledge of the subject so why come on this forum and try change the topic? You did come on to giggle at calling Israel racist. You then decided to remove torah quotes out of their actual meaning and context to giggle at Jews and suggest we go around cutting off penises.

Now this

You want to start a topic on why you hate Judaism start one, You want to start a topic on  your twisted take on history as to the origins of the Palestinian conflict do so.

Problem is everytime you start a thread it usually dies out pretty quickly.

 

Sorry but I have to put you in my ignore list. I cant waste my time with your denial. I invited you several times to write verses from your own sources if I wrote it wrong but you rejected to do it. You are a typical kaffir, so the one who rejects to recognize facts and logic because it does not fit with her/him personal interests. Bye 

[Rue]

7 minutes ago, Altai said:

More verses from Torah;

"and they utterly destroyed all the things in the city, men, women, young, old, ox, sheep, with the edge of their sword." Joshua 6:21 


This is the mentality of Israelis, their inspiration source. 

No but it does reflect your mentality and your need to remove and parse bits of wording from the Torah to provide them false meaning to then stereotype all Israelis today as demons.

You forot the giggle comment at the end and the yellow face for dramatic flair.

[Rue]

3 minutes ago, Altai said:

Sorry but I have to put you in my ignore list. I cant waste my time with your denial. I invited you several times to write verses from your own sources if I wrote it wrong but you rejected to do it. You are a typical kaffir, so the one who rejects to recognize facts and logic because it does not fit with her/him personal interests. Bye 

I provided you the sources for the Bible and a method to be able to read all the words before and after the ones you were removing out of their contextual reference to provide one of their meanings, You chose to ignore me, Now you try bait again ignoring my response and engaging in the same stupidity and  then finish with an anti semitic insult.

I would expect  you to openly call me  a kaffir. For those who do not understand the term its no different than calling a black person a nigg..r.

if nothing else it shows which people on this thread are here to engage in racism and hatred and anti Semitism.

[hot enough]

1 hour ago, Rue said:

Your comment has nothing to do with the thread topic. You also show a complete and total ignorant of the origins of the Palestinian conflict.

Up to your sneaky old tricks, Rue. This illustrates perfectly the origins of the "Palestinian" conflict. If only you had some degree of balance in your screeds.

How is it that folks like you can so deny reality and still function day to day.

 

 

[Argus]

15 hours ago, marcus said:

Correction: I am talking about the Palestinians. You are talking about the Arab world and putting them into one category.

Why not, when they look alike and run in herds?

The point is that the mess that is Israel and Palestine is due to the intransigence and hatred of the Arab world. You can try and make what excuses you can, but had they not declared war on Israel as soon as it was born and invaded - repeatedly, we wouldn't have this problem today. Had Jordan not attacked Israel in 1967 it would have retained control of the West bank and we wouldn't have this trouble today. Had they been willing to sign off on a peace, we wouldn't have this problem today.

15 hours ago, marcus said:

Malaysia and Sudan may have some negative internal laws, but they're nowhere close to what Israel has done to the Palestinians.

You ignore, as you people always do, why Israel behaves so harshly towards Palestinians (as opposed to Israeli Muslims who are citizens). As I have said before, if some group in Canada were to perform as many terrorist acts against civilians as the Palestinians did against Israel we'd have treated them pretty damned badly too.

[hot enough]

2 hours ago, Argus said:

Why not, when they look alike and run in herds?

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You ignore, as you people always do, why Israel behaves so harshly towards Palestinians (as opposed to Israeli Muslims who are citizens). As I have said before, if some group in Canada were to perform as many terrorist acts against civilians as the Palestinians did against Israel we'd have treated them pretty damned badly too.

Speaking of operating in a delusional world. You and Rue are peas in a pod, Argus. Israelis walk into Palestinian houses and take them over at gunpoint, the same with Palestinian lands. . 

Israeli Palestinian conflict explained an animated introduction to Israel and Palestine

 

 

Edited August 20, 2017 by hot enough

[kactus]

9 hours ago, Argus said:

Why not, when they look alike and run in herds?

These sorts of comments are exactly the types that does not make you impartial and puts you in the same category as a bigotted racist individual who uses one brush to portray all muslims the same....So Argus, all arabs look the same now and run in herds? Making that sort of a statement does not make you any different from a ultra right wing fascist.

If I am not mistaken you are one of those people who didn't even know that Iranians are NOT arabs until you were told by some members on this forum! With that level of ignorance and horse crap how does one expect to be taken seriously and informed on political landscape of the region?

Edited August 20, 2017 by kactus