maplesyrup Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Article ‘The hanging tree’It was November 30, 2002, when Mike Harcourt took a long fall from his Pender Island deck down a sandstone cliff to a tidal shelf, and landed face down in the water. First his life was at stake, then his ability to walk. Today he golfs and plays tennis. “I’ve gone from about 80 to 81 percent in the last two months. It’s like the old Vince Lombardi, three yards at a time in a cloud of dust.” But amid the book’s early pages describing the accident, there are words about the other fall. In 1995, he resigned as premier in the wake of the NDP Bingogate scandal; in which the NDP fund-raising arm was found to have skimmed charity funds raised through gambling in the 1970s and ’80s. The knock on him was that he couldn’t make the tough decision — pick the fall guy, any fall guy, and make him pay for a scandal that had little to do with his government. “I’d rather not hurt anybody, even in politics,” says Harcourt in the book. Then he slams not Gordon Campbell or the Liberals but the media and some members of the NDP and the trade union movement for their response to Bingogate. “They didn’t want a trial or whatever. They just wanted somebody to suffer some consequences, to be hung from the hanging tree.” Demonized by Collins In a book that’s mostly about what’s right — with our health care system and with the human spirit — Mike Harcourt is most succinctly defined when he declares what’s wrong. In fact, the memory of politics seems to shake him more than his accident, as he pulls apart a muffin and a Danish and lets his coffee get cold. “Being a New Democrat in B.C. is like being black in Alabama,” he says. He feels he was always just a step ahead of “the dragon’s breath.” Sometimes it feels that way, especially if one spent too much time listening to the Harperites! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Right. Riiiiight. I can just picture Elinor Caplan standing in the House of Commons, shrieking "They're burning tofu and fair-trade coffee in Prince George!!" -kimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticker Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Right. Riiiiight.I can just picture Elinor Caplan standing in the House of Commons, shrieking "They're burning tofu and fair-trade coffee in Prince George!!" -kimmy Elinor Caplan & Carolyn Parrish make a good tag team. Let Parrish be minister of foreign affairs to attack those evil Americans and Caplan can look after the local stage playing Chicken Little and say the sky is falling if people don't vote liberal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellowtraveller Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 The NDP as martyrs. Laugh...out... loud. How utterly pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplesyrup Posted December 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 The New Democrats have no newspapers, no radio stations, and no TV stations that back them them because they are all controlled by Conservative and/or Liberal interests. Whenever New Democrats suggest looking after the less privileged they are called "commies" In spite of all the odds being stacked against them, New Democrats still manage to form governments in BC. How come? Maybe ordinary BCers can relate to them and their aspirations for our province. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slavik44 Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 The New Democrats have no newspapers, no radio stations, and no TV stations that back them them because they are all controlled by Conservative and/or Liberal interests. Whenever New Democrats suggest looking after the less privileged they are called "commies" In spite of all the odds being stacked against them, New Democrats still manage to form governments in BC. How come? Maybe ordinary BCers can relate to them and their aspirations for our province. can you please provide links to major newspapers calling the NDP commies, and no stoker is not a major newspaper MS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplesyrup Posted December 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 slavik 44....learn how to read. And How quickly we forget. The police raid on Glen Clark's home on those trumpted up charges with television wires attached was not politically motivated, was it? Of course not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eureka Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 That there are no socialist leaning newspapers is worthy of examination in itself. In Britain, some years ago, the Daily Worker was, by far, the largest circulation paper. It died after a long financial struggle. It could not attract sufficient advertising revenues. That raises questions about the advertising industry and corporate responsibility. Why did so much business not advertise where it could get the greatest exposure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slavik44 Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 slavik 44....learn how to read.And How quickly we forget. The police raid on Glen Clark's home on those trumpted up charges with television wires attached was not politically motivated, was it. Of course not. Whenever New Democrats suggest looking after the less privileged they are called "commies" Now maplesyrup if this comment isn't about newspapers, which i figured, it has absolutley no relevance to this post. As you have basically no documented cases of anyone calling New democrats commies, other then a few extreme instances maybe on this forum I have never heard any New democrat refered to as a commie, and you know very well that you were wrong in thsi instance but posted it anyways, i doubt even 2% of the candian population calls New democrats commies, and I doubt anyone of any particular importance to Canadian politics has ever called new democrats a bunch of commies. So what exactly are you trying to do build up a case about evils done to the New democrats based on false claims. and next time you post MS, stick within the guidlines No Personal Attacks and or Insults Please respect others using this board by refraining from personal attacks. There is a huge difference between disagreeing with a thought or idea and attacking an individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellowtraveller Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 It is profoundly insulting to black people in the US to compare their civil rights battles with the whining of a few socialists in Canada. Shame on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplesyrup Posted December 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 What is a socialist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eureka Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 It is also profoundly insulting to all of humanity to say that those who have different, and better thought out, positions than yours are "whining." It is a poor portent for the future of the human race that so many have their heads so stuffed with nothing that they can accuse those who would prick their complacent inhumanity of "whining." Try traveling a more challenging road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Perhaps "whining" is a debatable term, but what's not debatable is that comparing the status of "lefties" in BC to the civil rights struggle of black Americans in the deep south is completely laughable and quite retarded. -kimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplesyrup Posted December 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Perhaps "whining" is a debatable term, but what's not debatable is that comparing the status of "lefties" in BC to the civil rights struggle of black Americans in the deep south is completely laughable and quite retarded. -kimmy What does retarded mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 A poor word choice, perhaps. If any mentally handicapped people are reading the forum, I completely apologize. I had no intention of insulting the mentally challenged by comparing them to Maplesyrup. Here is what I should have wrote: Perhaps "whining" is a debatable term, but what's not debatable is that comparing the status of "lefties" in BC to the civil rights struggle of black Americans in the deep south is completely laughable. -kimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoker Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 retarded Main Entry: re·tard·ed Pronunciation: ri-'tär-d&d Function: adjective sometimes offensive : slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress I disagree Kimmy, I think Maples use of the Blacks struggle for civil rights as a comparison with the BC NDP's "plight" is, by the defination of the word, very much so retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackwacky Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 In spite of all the odds being stacked against them, New Democrats still manage to form governments in BC. How come? maybe it's something in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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