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The cab driver who was caught in the crossfire is not happy. Apparently, he was sitting in the driveway for 5 minutes waiting for his fare before he came out, sat down and the shooting started:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/08/18/aaron-driver-taxi_n_11584396.html

He might have a point. The police could have moved in before he exited the house. It appears that the police used the taxi to get this guy out in the open where they could deal with him.

"Why did the police put my life jeopardy? They did absolutely nothing to help me at any time,'' Duffield told the newspaper. "They did absolutely nothing at any time to prevent me from getting in that situation.''

Does not appear a big deal but I wonder how you would feel if the cab driver was your husband, son, bother or other relative.

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Apparently, he was sitting in the driveway for 5 minutes waiting for his fare before he [Driver] came out

Yes, it is bad no matter which way you look at it. If the cab took off, then Driver may not have come out and possibly more people would be injured/killed. At the time the police certainly had just cause to arrest Driver, but what was the best way to do it? Did they know that the cab was for Driver? Lots of questions.

I am also wondering about the story the cab driver told. He said the police came up suddenly, but he also said he was saved because he was reaching down for his cigarettes. Did he not freeze when the police came out? Again lots of questions, little answers.

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So is anyone who joins a biker gang or belongs to identified racist associations. Rightwing 'lone wolves' kill more than radical Islamists. Yet, here you are with all your usual bluster about how we should sell off our rights to be protected against Islamists. I highly doubt you, of all people, would want to promote a legal system where you get locked up for being an avowed rightwinger who's frustrated with the government and our society. Until there is an actual threat, rather than a perceived threat, there is nothing the government can do and for good reason. Otherwise, they could lock up anyone for whatever reasons they could drum up. You're literally asking to scrap parts of the charter of rights that allow free association. You're also asking for thoughtcrime to be a thing. Until someone makes an actual threat or begins planning for an actual attack, they're allowed to think and associate without whoever the hell they want. That's why the RCMP doesn't just lock up every Hell's Angel they come across. That's why they don't just get a warrant to round up everyone associated with Stormfront. And that's why you're not locked up as a rightwinger who's dissatisfied with our government and society.

That's apples and oranges in comparison with Breivik.

The term, "Lone wolf" is being disabused here. Anyone who thinks and acts alone is a "lone wolf."

Breivik I think, fits the bill in that regard. Though he may've been inspired by some ideology....he planned, and acted alone.

Unless he's answering to a call to do the atrocity.

The media uses the term "lone wolf," in lieu of "Islamic terrorist," as a way to dilute the fact that the so-called "lone wolf terrorist" directly answers to the call for Islamic Jihad! The call was to do attacks as an individual.

The "lone wolf terrorist" may be alone in acting out, but he's not really alone!

He has others that share the very same ideology, and he's only acting out what's expected from him.

It's just a strategic way of doing jihad.

Think of the "lone wolf terrorist," as a soldier who obeys orders. He's not alone.

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Having said that, I don't want a system that can easily haul you off simply on suspicion, and without any cause.

We have to be careful that our rights are protected.

What a terrible place we've placed ourselves in.

We're in this place with people whose values are very much contradictory to ours, and we've got our hands tied.

This is the pitfall of multiculturalism. It's our legacy to our future generation. It's their problem now.

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