Guest Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 If they're not white men, then they can't be competent? Is that what you're suggesting? I think what he's saying is that competence wasn't the main criteria. It doesn't matter. It never is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I think what he's saying is that competence wasn't the main criteria. It doesn't matter. It never is. If they were incompetent their appointment would either be blocked by the judiciary itself or they would have been disbarred already. They're not incompetent in any demonstrable way that I can tell. Now if one of the resident "the world is going to end because they're not white" posters wants to elaborate on what makes them not competent, then I'd love to hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 If they were incompetent their appointment would either be blocked by the judiciary itself or they would have been disbarred already. They're not incompetent in any demonstrable way that I can tell. Now if one of the resident "the world is going to end because they're not white" posters wants to elaborate on what makes them not competent, then I'd love to hear it. It's not that they're incompetent. I'm sure they are not. It's just that knowledge of jurisprudence probably wasn't the deciding factor. But like I said, it never is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 It's not that they're incompetent. I'm sure they are not. It's just that knowledge of jurisprudence probably wasn't the deciding factor. But like I said, it never is. Are they somehow lacking knowledge? I'd love someone to show that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I am delighted that medical licenses are not passed out on this kind of 'merit'. Not yet. Give it time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Are they somehow lacking knowledge? I'd love someone to show that. It's not that they're lacking knowledge. I'm sure they are not. It's just that competence probably wasn't the deciding factor. But like I said, it never is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Really??? Only you, Squid and Peter F. smh I deny everything. The judges appointed by Harper are fully competent to do - and have done - the job they were appointed to as I am sure the recent rash of appointments will also be. All is well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 It's not that they're lacking knowledge. I'm sure they are not. It's just that competence probably wasn't the deciding factor. But like I said, it never is. Im quite sure that competence was the number 1 factor. Then with at pool of competence+qualified they elfin well appointed whoever they liked - as every other damned prime-minister in the past has done. Even Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 amazingly superficial prime minister and his fundamentalist leftist party. Yeah because the liberals are "fundamentalist left wingers". ROFLMAO. You have about as much credibility as people that compared Harper to Hitler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Well? How are any of these judges not competent? No one has said a thing... other than their skin colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Because, liberals!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Yeah, just like when it was Harper. Because, conservatives!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Yeah, just like when it was Harper. Because, conservatives!!! It depends - some attacks on either side are well grounded. There's nothing to this one besides, Liberals!!! And some kind of weird white pride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted June 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 It depends - some attacks on either side are well grounded. There's nothing to this one besides, Liberals!!! And some kind of weird white pride. I have a very fundamental belief in meritocracy, which is something Liberals run screaming into the night to avoid. Merit is not something you understand for it's not something you've ever had. "Appoint on merit!?" Sputter sputter! Why that's racist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Im quite sure that competence was the number 1 factor. Then with at pool of competence+qualified they elfin well appointed whoever they liked - as every other damned prime-minister in the past has done. Even Harper. Yes, I'm sure you are. As for "Even Harper", like I said, Everyone does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I have a very fundamental belief in meritocracy, which is something Liberals run screaming into the night to avoid. Merit is not something you understand for it's not something you've ever had. "Appoint on merit!?" Sputter sputter! Why that's racist! Did you complain about Harper's appointments of...anyone? Canada has never been a meritocracy, and the last government's appointments stand as a testament to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted June 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Did you complain about Harper's appointments of...anyone? I've posted several times that whoever was advising Harper on appointments ought to have been shot. AS for his judicial appointments, no, I never found cause to complain. The Liberals had been avoiding appointing anyone with a hint of conservative views for so long there were many extremely capable and competent people available. Canada has never been a meritocracy, and the last government's appointments stand as a testament to that. The only people who oppose meritocracies are those without the ability to succeed in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 It's not that they're lacking knowledge. I'm sure they are not. It's just that competence probably wasn't the deciding factor. But like I said, it never is. You're making an assumption. No one would question whether competence was a factor if it were white people appointed so it makes it a racist assumption at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I have a very fundamental belief in meritocracy, which is something Liberals run screaming into the night to avoid. Merit is not something you understand for it's not something you've ever had. "Appoint on merit!?" Sputter sputter! Why that's racist! And still, not a single post expressing any sort of deficiencies these judges might have. Do you have anything other than complaints about their race? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Merit is not something you understand for it's not something you've ever had. The only people who oppose meritocracies are those without the ability to succeed in one. Your childish insults are a testament to how empty your arguments are here. You've not once shown any example of how these judges lack the requisite qualifications for the job. What merits are they lacking? You've got absolutely nothing, so you just insult posters instead. Which is god damned hilarious considering you're the biggest complainer about people insulting you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 You're making an assumption. No one would question whether competence was a factor if it were white people appointed so it makes it a racist assumption at that. Ah yes, racism. Anyway, people do. Harper's appointments for instance. Any other Prime Minister's appointments. And I'm not questioning competence. I'm saying it probably wasn't the number one factor in making the choices. Do you think it was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) I think competence was definitely a factor, yes. I'm pretty sure the PM doesn't want to appoint incompetent judges. Only Harper was that stupid, appointing a judge for Quebec who had little to no experience with the civil code. Edited June 22, 2016 by cybercoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 AS for his [Harper] judicial appointments, no, I never found cause to complain. So you were fine with the unqualified Nadon, and Towes? This is ask #3, what other than skin colour is the problem with Trudeau's appointments? Who was passed over that is better suited? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) Only Harper was that stupid, appointing a judge for Quebec who had little to no experience with the civil code.Except this statement is completely false. Nadon got his law degree from Sherbrooke and practiced law in Quebec for many years. The objections of the SCC to his appointment were not based on any rational legal principal but were simply and example of SCC deciding cases based on personal prejudices. Edited June 22, 2016 by TimG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I think competence was definitely a factor, yes. I'm pretty sure the PM doesn't want to appoint incompetent judges. Only Harper was that stupid, appointing a judge for Quebec who had little to no experience with the civil code. I think competence was a factor too. As was the appearance of diversity, and the potential for a judge to see things the Liberal way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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