cybercoma Posted October 9, 2015 Author Report Posted October 9, 2015 I am so sick of unnamed sources ,that cant be proved. Right. More like you're sick of people criticizing your party because in your mind they can do no wrong. Quote
dialamah Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Islam cant be trusted. Harper understands what is going to happen when Islam gets a foothold in Canada. We'll probably all be dead from climate change before Islam gets a foothold in Canada, if thats even what they want. Even in Europe, which the Islamaphobes hysterically proclaim to be over-run by Muslims and on the verge of Sharia law, only has a Muslim population of about 6% and estimated to be 8% in ten years. What's Canada's percentage? 3% or something? If Canada can be overrun by 3% of its population, or even 8%, it would be a miracle. 30% of Canadians haven't been able to overcome 70% in ten years, how unrealistic is it to think that less than 10% would be more successful. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 9, 2015 Author Report Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Islam cant be trusted. Harper understands what is going to happen when Islam gets a foothold in Canada. Jews cant be trusted. Harper understands what is going to happen when Jews get a foothold in Canada. Blacks cant be trusted. Harper understands what is going to happen when blacks get a foothold in Canada. Chinamen cant be trusted. Harper understands what is going to happen when Chinamen get a foothold in Canada. The Irish cant be trusted. Harper understands what is going to happen when the Irish get a foothold in Canada. Same old rhetoric, different day. Edited October 9, 2015 by cybercoma Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 In other words, even the PMO is confused about the difference between immigrants and refugees. I don't think there was any confusion at all. This was an election strategy to curry favor with certain groups in Canada. Whatever else the Tories may do, at the top of their mind at all times is the next election. They have used the fixed elections as a means to basically campaign 24/7 365 days a year. Quote
PIK Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Jews cant be trusted. Harper understands what is going to happen when Jews get a foothold in Canada. Blacks cant be trusted. Harper understands what is going to happen when blacks get a foothold in Canada. Chinamen cant be trusted. Harper understands what is going to happen when Chinamen get a foothold in Canada. The Irish cant be trusted. Harper understands what is going to happen when the Irish get a foothold in Canada. Same old rhetoric, different day. Actually you are totally 100% wrong. There is a huge difference between a people and a religion. Edited October 9, 2015 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Argus Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 The PMO is largely populated by political staff. That's nice but irrelevant. The review was not conducted by the PMO, as your own cite says. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
ToadBrother Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 That's nice but irrelevant. The review was not conducted by the PMO, as your own cite says. Except the reports are stating the PMO was prioritizing refugee claims. Quote
Argus Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) CTV is reporting that the PMO was reviewing files to prioritize certain groups of refugees; in other words preference to Christians over Muslims. Yes, and gays (gasp!), and Yazidis, and women with young children (the horror!) They were selecting those most at risk. So? They were also trying to find those refugees most likely to succeed in Canada, ie, those who spoke English or French, and had some education. We can't take more than a fraction, so we might as well try and choose the best we can. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/tories-apply-specific-criteria-for-refugees/article26734229/ Edited October 9, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Except the reports are stating the PMO was prioritizing refugee claims. No, they had Citizenship and Immigration establish that security procedures were in place, and told them to set prioties based on certain criteria, including risk (to the refugee) and likelihood of succeeding in Canada Edited October 9, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) No, they had Citizenship and Immigration establish that security procedures were in place, and told them to set prioties based on certain criteria, including risk (to the refugee) and likelihood of succeeding in Canada The PMO ordered the audit, Harper has admitted that So far the role the PMO actually played is so far just not clear. Unless you're gullible enough to believe everything Harper tells you. Edited October 9, 2015 by On Guard for Thee Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 The PMO ordered the audit, Harper has admitted that So far the role the PMO actually played is so far just not clear. Unless you're gullible enough to believe everything Harper tells you. Sources are saying that this was tantamount to political interference. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Sources are saying that this was tantamount to political interference. Also that it may have in fact given Christian's a priority over vulnerability. http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/pmos-syrian-refugee-audit-about-more-than-security Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Also that it may have in fact given Christian's a priority over vulnerability. http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/pmos-syrian-refugee-audit-about-more-than-security That's what the reports are suggesting, that the PMO was assuring that cases that would allow refugees to go to groups that they deemed the most politically valuable got preference. Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 I wonder who Bob Fife's mole in the PMO is. He's becoming the Bob Woodward of Canadian politics. Quote
capricorn Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 I wonder who Bob Fife's mole in the PMO is. He's becoming the Bob Woodward of Canadian politics. The 'insider" or "insiders" spilling the beans is/are in Citizenship and Immigration, not the PMO. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
capricorn Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Citizenship Department leaks to media probed by RCMP Media leaks in the heat of election campaign 'completely unacceptable,' officials say The RCMP have been called in to investigate leaks of "sensitive" information from Citizenship and Immigration Canada, CBC News has learned. This week, Citizenship and Immigration Minister Chris Alexander confirmed a report published in the Globe and Mail that the Prime Minister's Office directed officials to stop processing a preliminary group of Syrian refugees, pending an audit of their cases. The story was based on leaked documents, as were earlier CBC reports about problems with Canadian passports. that have made waves in the federal election campaign. A memo to employees from the department's deputy minister and associate deputy minister says that leaks at any time, let alone in the midst of an election campaign, are "completely unacceptable." The memo was obtained by the CBC's French-language service Radio-Canada. 'Unethical and against the law' "We are deeply concerned however by recent instances where sensitive information has been leaked to journalists," reads the memo. "Leaks such as these are unethical and are against the law. As such, we have contacted the Royal Canadian Mounted Police who have now launched an investigation. The trust that the public, our partners and elected officials have in us is the cornerstone of our democratic functions." http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-citizenship-rcmp-1.3264945 Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Argus Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 The PMO ordered the audit, Harper has admitted that So far the role the PMO actually played is so far just not clear. Unless you're gullible enough to believe everything Harper tells you. I don't get your point. So what if the PMO ordered it. There's nothing wrong with that. To listen to the idiots of the media the PMO actually ordered all the files sent over to them and pored over them one by one. Which is ludicrous, on the face of it. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 That's what the reports are suggesting, that the PMO was assuring that cases that would allow refugees to go to groups that they deemed the most politically valuable got preference. Like gays and lesbians? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Also that it may have in fact given Christian's a priority over vulnerability. http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/pmos-syrian-refugee-audit-about-more-than-security What group in that region is more vulnerable than Christians, other than Yazidis, who were also given priority, along with gays. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Sources are saying that this was tantamount to political interference. Then those sources are idiots. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
ToadBrother Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Then those sources are idiots. Not my fault the PMO interfered and tried to buy votes in specific communities by matching them with the appropriate immigrants. Quote
poochy Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 What group in that region is more vulnerable than Christians, other than Yazidis, who were also given priority, along with gays. Hey now, doing the right thing only counts when it's benefitting someomne other than a christian, you know this. Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Hey now, doing the right thing only counts when it's benefitting someomne other than a christian, you know this. Last time I checked, Christians weren't the only groups facing a crisis in Syria. Quote
poochy Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Not my fault the PMO interfered and tried to buy votes in specific communities by matching them with the appropriate immigrants. In your honest opinion. how many votes did they or could they have bought and what is the likelyhood that those votes purchased could have changed any election? Quote
Argus Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Last time I checked, Christians weren't the only groups facing a crisis in Syria. Last time I checked they were facing violence from all quarters, their churches burned down, their people attacked even in areas where the government of Iraq and Syria and even Egypt hold sway. Do you think it's wrong to give preference to gays? I mean, gays aren't the only people facing a crisis in Syria, after all. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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