Glastonbury Festival

[Mighty AC]

Nice! Strong female, song writers are a good start. My oldest is a boy hooked on science and sports which are more my aptitudes. My younger daughter is a young budding musician and artist. I hope to hook her one day. I have passion, but no talent for music so I will take her to see the pros.

[WestCoastRunner]

Nice! Strong female, song writers are a good start. My oldest is a boy hooked on science and sports which are more my aptitudes. My younger daughter is a young budding musician and artist. I hope to hook her one day. I have passion, but no talent for music so I will take her to see the pros.

Yep, take her to some female artists! There is always Taylor Swift hehehe. She is a good role model

Edited July 4, 2015 by WestCoastRunner

[Mighty AC]

Yep, take her to some female artists! There is always Taylor Swift hehehe. She is a good role model

Sigh.... Her class already performed 'Shake It Off' for a school assembly. I had to help her practice her dance moves to that track. Taylor is a strong female and in control her career, but I don't have to like her music.

[WIP]

Maybe it's just me, but Taylor Swift's music sounds like processed cheese! Something squeezed out of a computerized synthesizer with auto-tuned vocals.

[AngusThermopyle]

How come no one has mentioned this outstanding performance yet? Just amazing, amazing that he could even think for a moment that he could do this. Amazing how he managed to totally butcher one of the most iconic rock songs ever performed. Just to top it off he also announced that he's the greatest living rock star in the world. Gotta say, way to take loony to a whole new level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcQPftzvYPE

[kimmy]

oh god wtf

-k

[The_Squid]

Holy shit that was awful....

[WIP]

How come no one has mentioned this outstanding performance yet? Just amazing, amazing that he could even think for a moment that he could do this. Amazing how he managed to totally butcher one of the most iconic rock songs ever performed. Just to top it off he also announced that he's the greatest living rock star in the world. Gotta say, way to take loony to a whole new level.

Maybe there's not enough Kanye fans here....including me. I see Kanye and I pass without giving it a listen. Music is a matter of personal tastes, and I don't consider ripping off other people's songs and adding a few rhymes to be music or show any sort of talent!

I have more respect for the original rappers who created the genre and wrote rhymes about stuff that mattered, not how big their houses are....their bling.....their cars.....their ho's.....how big their dicks are etc.! For example:

[AngusThermopyle]

To be fair I actually looked him up on YouTube and listened to a few of his things. My belief being you shouldn't slag something if you haven't even listened to it. Worst crap I've heard in a long time. Juvenile basic garbage masquerading as music. What amazes me is the fact that he does have fans, quite a few.

Even better is the fact that he got the lyrics wrong. Come on! If you're going to destroy a classic at least learn all the words correctly.

[cybercoma]

How come no one has mentioned this outstanding performance yet? Just amazing, amazing that he could even think for a moment that he could do this. Amazing how he managed to totally butcher one of the most iconic rock songs ever performed. Just to top it off he also announced that he's the greatest living rock star in the world. Gotta say, way to take loony to a whole new level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcQPftzvYPE

This is nothing new. 80s bands were always boasting like that and rap artists constantly do this. It's all part of the performance. As for butchering Bohemian Rhapsody, that was pretty brutal, I'm not going to defend that. But Kanye doesn't deserve half as much hate as he gets and I don't even particularly care for his music. Other artists that have done similar things don't get remotely as much hate as he does for it. Kanye has been influential as hell in his genre though, so he deserves all the credit in the world for that. Edited July 6, 2015 by cybercoma

[cybercoma]

Maybe there's not enough Kanye fans here....including me. I see Kanye and I pass without giving it a listen. Music is a matter of personal tastes, and I don't consider ripping off other people's songs and adding a few rhymes to be music or show any sort of talent!

I have more respect for the original rappers who created the genre and wrote rhymes about stuff that mattered, not how big their houses are....their bling.....their cars.....their ho's.....how big their dicks are etc.! For example:

[edited out video]

I don't think you listen to enough hip hop. Some pop artists do this, but others like Kendrick Lamar are rapping about things that matter. It's "pop" music overproduction that's the problem, not the genre.

As far as sampling, that goes way back to those original rappers too. Sampling isn't any less an art than learning how to pick up a guitar and play 12-chord blues or 3-chord punk. I'm sure GostHacked can tell you that it's not as simple producing beats as people think.

Edited July 6, 2015 by cybercoma

[drummindiver]

The only "rap" I can listen to without wanting to shoot myself in the face. Yup, I'm of "that" generation.

Also, strong female performances were mentioned a few posts ago. Here are three that I play almost every hungover Sunday

morning.

Edited July 6, 2015 by drummindiver

[WIP]

This is nothing new. 80s bands were always boasting like that and rap artists constantly do this. It's all part of the performance. As for butchering Bohemian Rhapsody, that was pretty brutal, I'm not going to defend that. But Kanye doesn't deserve half as much hate as he gets and I don't even particularly care for his music. Other artists that have done similar things don't get remotely as much hate as he does for it. Kanye has been influential as hell in his genre though, so he deserves all the credit in the world for that.

Maybe I just hate him for the stupid things he says, or the stupid things his wife says....I don't know! Or that he believes all the stupid hype surrounding him. Once he stops being a marketable celebrity, he'll get tossed into the dustbin of pop history like so many other has-been's! That is after the pop media vulture culture that profits from destroying celebrities decides that nobody cares anymore.

[WIP]

I don't think you listen to enough hip hop.

I try not to!

As far as sampling, that goes way back to those original rappers too. Sampling isn't any less an art than learning how to pick up a guitar and play 12-chord blues or 3-chord punk. I'm sure GostHacked can tell you that it's not as simple producing beats as people think.

Well, as I recall back when all of this sampling crap got started, the only reason why it wasn't classed as copyright infringement was a loophole in the law allowed by new technology of the time. Before programmable keyboards came along, a sample would have been an audio recording of the original. But running it through digital processing somehow makes it something new and different.

[WIP]

To be fair I actually looked him up on YouTube and listened to a few of his things. My belief being you shouldn't slag something if you haven't even listened to it. Worst crap I've heard in a long time. Juvenile basic garbage masquerading as music. What amazes me is the fact that he does have fans, quite a few.

Even better is the fact that he got the lyrics wrong. Come on! If you're going to destroy a classic at least learn all the words correctly.

If you're referring to Gill Scott Heron, the beat poet who's largely credited with creating the rap genre that exists today, the main reason I posted his most famous recording (The Revolution Will Not Be Televised) was because of content/ not because I listen to the early rap music from 50 years ago.

Heron is warning his audience not be distracted and lulled to sleep by TV and pop culture during the pre-internet era, which he regarded as superfluous and ultimately pointless. And, what's striking to me, listening to it closely, is how all of those celebrities, commercials, politicians etc. that were considered so important by television at the time, have disappeared almost without a trace, so that anyone today under 40 or 50 has no idea what he's talking about! I guess that was point made.

At some time during the early 80's, when rap went mainstream, rap music that was able to make the crossover and cash in dropped all of its social commentary that was the main focus of those original beat poets, and became just bragging about personal crap. Even thug rap which was condemned by such establishment figures as Pres Clinton, was just a coarser, more belligerent version of the sanitized rap turned into videos and given mainstream airplay. Instead of rapping about problems people were experiencing in depressed, de-industrialized ghettos in major cities, it was 'look at my house, look at my diamonds, look at my fancy cars'

[WIP]

The only "rap" I can listen to without wanting to shoot myself in the face. Yup, I'm of "that" generation.

Also, strong female performances were mentioned a few posts ago. Here are three that I play almost every hungover Sunday

morning.

RATM...you're more radical than I realized! As far as I'm aware, Rage was too political for MSM distribution. Tom Morello (someone look up the proper spelling) is very innovative guitarist. I wasn't paying attention when the hybrid of metal rap was becoming a big thing in the 90's, and I've heard more of their work lately than I did back when they were active.

Sinead O'Connor....that's pretty radical too! I never heard that song before, and I think I appreciate her more traditional work and ballads better than Sinead the rocker. She's always been difficult to deal with...as one interview of Roger Waters revealed in an anniversary of that gigantic 1990 Berlin Wall Concert. Basically, he said that of all the artists he invited and gathered together for that concert, she was the only problem they had besides the technical sound and lighting issues. Nevertheless, even her haters had to agree that her lead performance of "Mother" backed by Roger and members of The Band was at least a top five highlight of the show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpcvzL2m4nY

I like some of Sarah McGlachlan's work, though she's more one of my wife's favourites than mine. Never heard of Susan Tedeschi before, but I like what I heard and will have to look into it more thanks.

[Mighty AC]

Maybe I just hate him for the stupid things he says, or the stupid things his wife says....I don't know! Or that he believes all the stupid hype surrounding him. Once he stops being a marketable celebrity, he'll get tossed into the dustbin of pop history like so many other has-been's! That is after the pop media vulture culture that profits from destroying celebrities decides that nobody cares anymore.

I think Kanye is a talented a-hole...but then again so are many artists. Liam Gallagher, Morrissey, Courtney Love, Lars Ulrich, Axl Rose, Gene Simmons, Ted Nugent, Eddie Van Halen, Fred Durst, Scott Stapp, Billy Corgan, etc. Sometimes, it's hard to separate the work and the personality, sometimes not.

[drummindiver]

RATM...you're more radical than I realized! As far as I'm aware, Rage was too political for MSM distribution. Tom Morello (someone look up the proper spelling) is very innovative guitarist. I wasn't paying attention when the hybrid of metal rap was becoming a big thing in the 90's, and I've heard more of their work lately than I did back when they were active.

Sinead O'Connor....that's pretty radical too! I never heard that song before, and I think I appreciate her more traditional work and ballads better than Sinead the rocker. She's always been difficult to deal with...as one interview of Roger Waters revealed in an anniversary of that gigantic 1990 Berlin Wall Concert. Basically, he said that of all the artists he invited and gathered together for that concert, she was the only problem they had besides the technical sound and lighting issues. Nevertheless, even her haters had to agree that her lead performance of "Mother" backed by Roger and members of The Band was at least a top five highlight of the show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpcvzL2m4nY

I like some of Sarah McGlachlan's work, though she's more one of my wife's favourites than mine. Never heard of Susan Tedeschi before, but I like what I heard and will have to look into it more thanks.

lol...I don't know if I'm more radical or not. I don't share Zach delaRocha's political views. I admire their innovation, and their fervour however.

Sinead is an incredible singer, and is more punk than the Sex Pistols. To stand on her principals, to put her career on the line when she is on the verge of becoming a superstar to make a statement like she did...how can any musician who doesn't believe in selling out not applaud, even if you don't agree with her commentary?

As for Sarah, there are a few songs of hers I can`t get enough of...and many I can`t stand. I just think she nails this song live, and it`s incredible when she does.

[WIP]

I think Kanye is a talented a-hole...but then again so are many artists. Liam Gallagher, Morrissey, Courtney Love, Lars Ulrich, Axl Rose, Gene Simmons, Ted Nugent, Eddie Van Halen, Fred Durst, Scott Stapp, Billy Corgan, etc. Sometimes, it's hard to separate the work and the personality, sometimes not.

It's been noted for centuries that there is a connection between great artistry and madness. I wish I could recall the source now, but an interview I heard recently with a psychologist who's studied the problem, noted that the great visual descriptive phrases from varied sources from Samuel Coleridge to Syd Barrett are taken as examples of great imagination by the reader/or the listener, while the subject was merely describing the visual and auditory hallucinations that haunted them throughout their lives.

On a lesser level, the great songwriter or composer, has to be capable of thinking outside the box, so this usually means someone unconventional who just doesn't fit in with the rest of society.

[WestCoastRunner]

I try not to!

There is some pretty good rap out there. I have kids in their early 20's and they have sure introduced me to some good rap music.

[WestCoastRunner]

I was just watching a performance of Amy Winehouse at Glastenbury in 2007. What a fabulous performance and how tragic her life was cut so short. She was so darn talented.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMIM0uaqhaQ

Edited July 8, 2015 by WestCoastRunner

[WIP]

There is some pretty good rap out there. I have kids in their early 20's and they have sure introduced me to some good rap music.

I'm sure there is good rap music. But since at least one prominent psychologist has taken time to study and publish a report on the subject, it seems that our music preferences...along with many other things are pretty much locked in by our early 20's. So anything new that I hear, has to remind me of something old....something that I heard from the late 60's through the 70's....Alabama Shakes and My Morning Jacket would be examples of new music that's familiar to me because it's not really that new!

So, since all rap was hardcore and within black communities in the US back in the 70's, it wasn't on my radar and still isn't today.

[WIP]

I was just watching a performance of Amy Winehouse at Glastenbury in 2007. What a fabulous performance and how tragic her life was cut so short. She was so darn talented.

And Amy Winehouse is another example of newer music I can relate to because it's based on classic r&b styles.