Canada_First Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 So many people are pointing out the Tory MP's who aren't running so I thought I'd let people know which NDP MP"s are not running either. NDP: Jean Crowder: Nanaimo–Cowichan (B.C.) Alex Atamanenko: British Columbia Southern Interior (B.C.) Joe Comartin: Windsor–Tecumseh (Ont.) Marie-Claude Morin: Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot (Que.) Tarik Brahmi: Saint-Jean (Que.) Liberal party: Irwin Cotler: Mount Royal (Que.) Ted Hsu: Kingston and the Islands (Ont.) http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/number-of-mps-not-seeking-re-election-continues-to-grow Veteran Member of Parliament and deputy leader of the NDP, Libby Davies, will not be running for re-election. Ms. Davies, 61, was first elected as the MP for Vancouver East in 1997 and was re-elected five times. She made the announcement Friday at her constituency office. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/deputy-ndp-leader-libby-davies-to-not-seek-re-election/article22066431/ So if the Torys aren't running due to greed does the same g for these MP's as well? Shocking that Libby Davies isn't running again. Is she quitting because of the pension rejigging as well? Just want to see if the same people have the same attitude when their own people are quitting as well. Quote
Freddy Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) So many people are pointing out the Tory MP's who aren't running so I thought I'd let people know which NDP MP"s are not running either. So if the Torys aren't running due to greed does the same g for these MP's as well? Shocking that Libby Davies isn't running again. Is she quitting because of the pension rejigging as well? Just want to see if the same people have the same attitude when their own people are quitting as well. I bet you most of the people that complain about this, have hired someone to do housework, or fixing up, Cash under the table, to avoid paying taxes.If you give a choice of more money, Or less money, 99.9 % will take , make more money, and choose pay less money. A lot of people choose to act like they are on a high horse, but faced with the same situation, Is different. It's easy to judge. A good number of us Are absolute hypocrite about at least a few things Edited June 23, 2015 by Freddy Quote
Topaz Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 I don't like the idea of any labour group or any kind of group to grandfather benefits and if they want to really do this, then its should AFFECT THEM, which the Tories make sure it didn't!! When Harper said if anyone is here for themselves there's the door.....well they are leaving. I think MP's should pay more of their benefits, after all, they are not there to get rich, which many, including PMs most of the time do. Quote
waldo Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) So many people are pointing out the Tory MP's who aren't running so I thought I'd let people know which NDP MP"s are not running either. here, let the waldo (more accurately) reinforce the 'pointing out' - you're welcome as of June 19th, retiring and resigned incumbents: Harper Conservatives (33): Moore, Ablonczy, Benoit, Breitkreuz, Harris, Anders, Goldring, Keddy, MacKay, Vellacott, Rajotte, Schellenberger, Devolin, Hiebert, Kamp, Kormarnicki, O'Connor, Preston, Smith, Allen, Baird, Brown (P), Bruinooge, Davidson, Hawn, Mayes, Norlock, Paradis, Storseth, Boughen, Glover, Kerr, Payne NDP (14): Davies, Godin, Comartin, Crowder, Atamanenko, Charlton, Benskin, Brahmi, Genest, Jacob, Latendresse, Morin (M-A), Morin (M-C), Raynault Liberal (5): Byrne, Cotler, Valeroite, Hsu, St-Denis . Edited June 23, 2015 by waldo Quote
Topaz Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 Since has been made PM, Canada has gone through a depression of its economy and of its people and Harper is not doing what is good for the country but what HE wants done. 36 Billion taken out of Health care, even Conservatives supporters can't want that! Just wait until Canadians have to pay for their own and the rich make money from it. Quote
Smallc Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 Nothing has been taken out of healthcare. The program didn't exist beyond the end of 2014. Quote
Argus Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 Since has been made PM, Canada has gone through a depression of its economy If you want to be taken seriously you won't call a recession a depression or blame Harper for it when everyone knows it came from Wall Street. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Keepitsimple Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 Nothing has been taken out of healthcare. The program didn't exist beyond the end of 2014. For those that still don't understand: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/the-health-accord-was-a-fix-we-must-not-repeat/article17759451/ Quote Back to Basics
Bob Macadoo Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 So if the Torys aren't running due to greed does the same g for these MP's as well? Shocking that Libby Davies isn't running again. Is she quitting because of the pension rejigging as well? Just want to see if the same people have the same attitude when their own people are quitting as well. Same attitude......stinks. The only one I might give a pass to is Cotler as to the crap he's had to go through.....and I still think he's getting ready for Senate promotion. Quote
WWWTT Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 If you want to be taken seriously you won't call a recession a depression or blame Harper for it when everyone knows it came from Wall Street. For the exception of the Bob Rae Ontario NDP government! Everything was his fault. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
cybercoma Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) here, let the waldo (more accurately) reinforce the 'pointing out' - you're welcome as of June 19th, retiring and resigned incumbents: Harper Conservatives (33): Moore, Ablonczy, Benoit, Breitkreuz, Harris, Anders, Goldring, Keddy, MacKay, Vellacott, Rajotte, Schellenberger, Devolin, Hiebert, Kamp, Kormarnicki, O'Connor, Preston, Smith, Allen, Baird, Brown (P), Bruinooge, Davidson, Hawn, Mayes, Norlock, Paradis, Storseth, Boughen, Glover, Kerr, Payne NDP (14): Davies, Godin, Comartin, Crowder, Atamanenko, Charlton, Benskin, Brahmi, Genest, Jacob, Latendresse, Morin (M-A), Morin (M-C), Raynault Liberal (5): Byrne, Cotler, Valeroite, Hsu, St-Denis . This is all a bit meaningless, yeah? I mean, there's far more Conservatives in the House to begin with and not only that but most of the NDP caucus is still wet behind the ears. The Liberals were decimated in the last election and, as someone else rightfully pointed out, guys like Cotler were riding raptors around Parliament Hill when they first got there. The proportion of people dropping out of politics is exactly what I would expect, given the make up of the House. The bigger issue here is big name people, cabinet ministers even, with a lot of years ahead of them walking out the door. I'm talking Mackay, Glover, Baird, etc. Any of those names who are under 50 and in executive positions, but are walking out that door. That's going to hurt the Conservatives because these are strong incumbents who had a lot of years ahead of them. But like I said before, I don't blame them for leaving. If you're 5 or so years from collecting your pension and staying on for another election means you would be 15 years or so from your pension, what would you do? I sure as hell would be stepping out too. But make no mistake about it. This will hurt the party. They're losing a lot of powerful incumbents. Edited June 24, 2015 by cybercoma Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 Nothing has been taken out of healthcare. The program didn't exist beyond the end of 2014. It hasn't because Harpers cut doesn't come into effect util after the upcoming election. I bet you can understand the timing on that was seriously planned. Quote
Smallc Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 It hasn't because Harpers cut doesn't come into effect util after the upcoming election. I bet you can understand the timing on that was seriously planned. The program didn't exist beyond 2014, so I think you'd better check into your info. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 The program didn't exist beyond 2014, so I think you'd better check into your info. What program didnt exist, healthcare...no, Harpers budget of 2014 brings in the cuts to healthcare xfer payments which will actually begin in 2017. Not sure where you got your info. Quote
Smallc Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 What program didnt exist, healthcare. That's correct. The Martin 'fix for a generation' only lasted 10 years - end of fiscal year 2014. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 That's correct. The Martin 'fix for a generation' only lasted 10 years - end of fiscal year 2014. Well actually, it goes on until 2017, then Harper cuts take effect. Quote
Smallc Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 Well actually, it goes on until 2017, then Harper cuts take effect. No, the Harper government extended the program by two years (the original may have just ended fiscal 2014 - 15, I can't remember the exact date). Before that happened, there was no program post Martin program. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 No, the Harper government extended the program by two years (the original may have just ended fiscal 2014 - 15, I can't remember the exact date). Before that happened, there was no program post Martin program. OK, you are finally getting it. The program goes until 2017 because Harper extended it, of course because he certainly didn't want to be seen to further attempt to gut healthcare leading up to an election. Quote
Smallc Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 OK, you are finally getting it. The program goes until 2017 because Harper extended it, of course because he certainly didn't want to be seen to further attempt to gut healthcare leading up to an election. He didn't gut anything. More money is going to be added to the program each year. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 He didn't gut anything. More money is going to be added to the program each year. Yeah, I think we have gone over your math abilities before on this...somehow you think reducing 6% increases down to 3% isn't a cut. Any new ideas on that yet... Quote
Smallc Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 Yeah, I think we have gone over your math abilities before on this...somehow you think reducing 6% increases down to 3% isn't a cut. Any new ideas on that yet... Until you figure out that more is not less.... Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 Until you figure out that more is not less.... 3 is less than 6...no Quote
Smallc Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 3 is less than 6...no If something is going up by 3 instead of 6, is it going down? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 If something is going up by 3 instead of 6, is it going down? Yes it is. Quote
Smallc Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 Yes it is. And I'm the one that needs a lesson in math? Quote
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