Argus Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) I'm so sad. I was, so looking forward to 4 years of women's rights legislation. You would be more likely to get four years of native rights and Quebec rights legislation. Edited June 21, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Freddy Posted June 21, 2015 Report Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) You would be more likely to get four years of native rights and Quebec rights legislation.Not really, considering every women's lobbyist group are all over the NDP with great big donations , And also help with a lot of the phone calling, and election drive. Etc...The feminist are the grass root foot soldiers of a the NDP. I know this as a fact, I know many of them personally. Many of their campaign teams are entirely made up of women from the feminist lobby groups. Edited June 21, 2015 by Freddy Quote
Freddy Posted June 21, 2015 Report Posted June 21, 2015 A vote of no confidence would not necessarily lead to an election if it was right after the house started and the two opposition leaders went to the GG and said they had the seats to form a government. If the NDP and liberals want to merge before the election, Then I'm fine with it, but afterwards..... I think that's BS Quote
Vancouver King Posted June 21, 2015 Report Posted June 21, 2015 If the NDP and liberals want to merge before the election, Then I'm fine with it, but afterwards..... I think that's BS Coalitions formed immediately after an election are common - witness Britain's recent vote. An NDP/Liberal coalition is possible if the electorate votes a Conservative minority. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Freddy Posted June 21, 2015 Report Posted June 21, 2015 Coalitions formed immediately after an election are common - witness Britain's recent vote. An NDP/Liberal coalition is possible if the electorate votes a Conservative minority. It has never happened in Canada , and so the rules and procedures are not codified. It's not clear cut black and white as you seem to believe. Quote
Argus Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Posted June 21, 2015 Not really, considering every women's lobbyist group are all over the NDP with great big donations , And also help with a lot of the phone calling, and election drive. Etc... The feminist are the grass root foot soldiers of a the NDP. I know this as a fact, I know many of them personally. Many of their campaign teams are entirely made up of women from the feminist lobby groups. Doesn't matter. Many of them are White too and they don't care about whites, or at least, they're pretty low on their least of important groups that need help. I think the list goes soemthing like this: 1. Blacks 2. Gays and Lesbians 3. Muslims 4. Immigrants in general 5. Natives 6. Other visible minorities 7. Disabled 8. Straight White Women 9. C02 emissions 10. Fish and wildlife 11 Poor people. ... ... ... ... ... ... 89. Snails ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 347. Slugs ... ... ... ... ... ... 654 small business ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 946 Business ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 1485. Straight white men Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Posted June 21, 2015 If the NDP and liberals want to merge before the election, Then I'm fine with it, but afterwards..... I think that's BS They would never merge before, but after, faced with more years of opposition, they will get together and find areas of mutual belief, like changing the way we vote, giving Quebec new powers, signing us up to the UN native rights treaty, etc. etc., and make a deal. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Posted June 21, 2015 It has never happened in Canada , and so the rules and procedures are not codified. It's not clear cut black and white as you seem to believe. The rules are actually quite clear. It's not the tradition in Canada, but there's nothing in the rules against it. Mulcair is ruthless enough for it. I just don't know if Trudeau's party will go along with playing second fiddle to the NDP. Another tradition of the Canadian political scene is if a coalition works well the senior member gets all the credit and thus more votes next election, while the junior member gets little. If it sucks, the junior member takes a big hit. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Freddy Posted June 21, 2015 Report Posted June 21, 2015 The rules are actually quite clear. It's not the tradition in Canada, but there's nothing in the rules against it. Mulcair is ruthless enough for it. I just don't know if Trudeau's party will go along with playing second fiddle to the NDP. Another tradition of the Canadian political scene is if a coalition works well the senior member gets all the credit and thus more votes next election, while the junior member gets little. If it sucks, the junior member takes a big hit. I'd see a bitter Harper fighting it in every way possible, the whole 4 years. He would use every dirty trick in the book. Quote
Freddy Posted June 21, 2015 Report Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) Doesn't matter. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 1485. Straight white men I doubt we even made the list.We made the other list of who to tax more to help out all those that can't help themselves. End result is 5 kids born in unable family. & Able people being over taxed and choosing to have no kids. Everything in nature is based on the most able one procreating the most. And for a good reason. Now we know why politicians are only getting worse. You know our leaders have no vision, when. Our society actively supports policy's that will result evolving us back to being dumb animals. If we can evolve into being this smart , it also means we can evolve back to being simple animals. Edited June 21, 2015 by Freddy Quote
Topaz Posted June 21, 2015 Report Posted June 21, 2015 If you are wondering why the NDP are so high in the polls, one only has to re-watch on C-PAC Question Period, June 17th and the exchange between the NDP leader and the PM. You can watch it online at C-PAC and if you don't want to watch all of it, start at 10 minutes and go to 24 minutes on the video. It's was as good as watching the boxing match with Justin and the ex-senator!! Quote
PrimeNumber Posted June 21, 2015 Report Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) If you are wondering why the NDP are so high in the polls, one only has to re-watch on C-PAC Question Period, June 17th and the exchange between the NDP leader and the PM. You can watch it online at C-PAC and if you don't want to watch all of it, start at 10 minutes and go to 24 minutes on the video. It's was as good as watching the boxing match with Justin and the ex-senator!! It was better. Muclair has been making Harper is whipping boy in question period for years. Then after Muclair tears into him we hear Harper favourite line "Mr. Speaker let me be very clear..." and then he rambles on about things that have nothing to do with what Muclair called him out on. Then Muclair usually replies with another on the spot attack on the random ramble that Harper just spewed forth from the bowels of conservative talking points. It really is quite entertaining. Edited June 21, 2015 by PrimeNumber Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
Argus Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Posted June 21, 2015 If you are wondering why the NDP are so high in the polls, one only has to re-watch on C-PAC Question Period, June 17th and the exchange between the NDP leader and the PM. You can watch it online at C-PAC and if you don't want to watch all of it, start at 10 minutes and go to 24 minutes on the video. It's was as good as watching the boxing match with Justin and the ex-senator!! Except only about .0000001% of Canadians watch CPAC Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) It was better. Muclair has been making Harper is whipping boy in question period for years. Then after Muclair tears into him we hear Harper favourite line "Mr. Speaker let me be very clear..." and then he rambles on about things that have nothing to do with what Muclair called him out on. And almost none of it ever reaches an audience. The aim of the NDP (and Liberals) is make Question period interesting to ordinary Canadians. It is THEIR show, after all, their chance to constantly attack, attack, attack. The aim of the Tories is to make it so dull and inconsequential the media couldn't be bothered covering it and people don't want to watch it. I think the Tories win. Edited June 21, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
cybercoma Posted June 21, 2015 Report Posted June 21, 2015 Doesn't matter. Many of them are White too and they don't care about whites, or at least, they're pretty low on their least of important groups that need help. I think the list goes soemthing like this: Oh please. Tell me more about how the government should be helping out someone whose income taxes last year were double the median personal income in this country. Quote
Evening Star Posted June 21, 2015 Report Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) And almost none of it ever reaches an audience. The aim of the NDP (and Liberals) is make Question period interesting to ordinary Canadians. It is THEIR show, after all, their chance to constantly attack, attack, attack. The aim of the Tories is to make it so dull and inconsequential the media couldn't be bothered covering it and people don't want to watch it. I think the Tories win. Assuming you're right, this is a clever strategy but also blatantly contemptuous of Parliament and democracy. Edited June 21, 2015 by Evening Star Quote
Keepitsimple Posted June 22, 2015 Report Posted June 22, 2015 Assuming you're right, this is a clever strategy but also blatantly contemptuous of Parliament and democracy. It takes three to tango, Quote Back to Basics
-1=e^ipi Posted June 22, 2015 Report Posted June 22, 2015 Conservatives can win if they somehow allow another terrorist attack to occur, like on parliament hill; or get lucky and have one occur. Otherwise, I see no way for them to win. Quote
Evening Star Posted June 22, 2015 Report Posted June 22, 2015 It takes three to tango, I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Is it that the Opposition is to blame for asking questions during Question Period? Quote
Smallc Posted June 22, 2015 Report Posted June 22, 2015 I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Is it that the Opposition is to blame for asking questions during Question Period? Their questions don't have answers for the most part. That's the point of it, even. Quote
PrimeNumber Posted June 22, 2015 Report Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Their questions don't have answers for the most part. That's the point of it, even. Their questions often have answers that are too straightforward for the harper government to answer without taking a political hit. So they side step or change the subject or just outright lie. Edited June 22, 2015 by PrimeNumber Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
Smallc Posted June 22, 2015 Report Posted June 22, 2015 The questions aren't supposed to be answered. It's an opportunity for the opposition to create outrage. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted June 22, 2015 Report Posted June 22, 2015 Their questions don't have answers for the most part. That's the point of it, even. Thats right. All they have are talking points.Mind numbing stupid boring BS talking points. And Calandra, Poilievre, Alexander, a host of others icluding Harper himself are all to happy to give us the wind up doll blab incessantly. Quote
Canada_First Posted June 22, 2015 Report Posted June 22, 2015 Tories at the same position for a couple years? No sorry man I posted a link to a poll just before this one that had the conservatives in third place. Looks like the conservatives are still not in first. Either way, we have the televised debates coming up and it's going to be a sluggfest on Harper! Did Harper back track yet and say he was going to participate in the debates yet? What is Harper afraid of? WWWTT The Tories polled a full 5% lower than their election results just about every year lately. So it's safe to tack on another 5% to the total Tory poll result. Quote
Smallc Posted June 22, 2015 Report Posted June 22, 2015 Thats right. All they have are talking points.Mind numbing stupid boring BS talking points. And Calandra, Poilievre, Alexander, a host of others icluding Harper himself are all to happy to give us the wind up doll blab incessantly. The questions are jut as mind numbing. Quote
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