Derek 2.0 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 He did also say he would bring corp taxes in line with the rest of G7, so maybe we taxpayers wont have to keep coming to the party to top up deficit budgets, while big oil runs all the way to the bank. Corporations don't actually pay taxes, as expenses are off loaded onto consumers...........likewise corporations just change tax jurisdictions to further reduce their burdens. Mulcair has to raise taxes to fund all of his socialist promises..........of course, Corporations don't vote in suburban Ontario, hence the folly of corporate tax increases. What is funny, Mulcair's two percentage point slip translates into billions of dollars.........The NDP's economic policy, what's a few billion here or there As I said several days ago above, the NDP's platform in the coming days, weeks and months is about to be riddled full of holes, by not only the Tories and Liberals, but also by economists and the media. The 5-10% of voting Canadians, that live within 20-25 ridings, that will decide this election, vote with their pocketbooks............hence a Tory Majority this Fall.........and you thought the Harper Tories were scared of the NDP, this is just the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Corporations don't actually pay taxes, as expenses are off loaded onto consumersThat's an overly simplistic understanding of price elasticity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Corporations don't actually pay taxes, as expenses are off loaded onto consumers...........likewise corporations just change tax jurisdictions to further reduce their burdens. Mulcair has to raise taxes to fund all of his socialist promises..........of course, Corporations don't vote in suburban Ontario, hence the folly of corporate tax increases. What is funny, Mulcair's two percentage point slip translates into billions of dollars.........The NDP's economic policy, what's a few billion here or there As I said several days ago above, the NDP's platform in the coming days, weeks and months is about to be riddled full of holes, by not only the Tories and Liberals, but also by economists and the media. The 5-10% of voting Canadians, that live within 20-25 ridings, that will decide this election, vote with their pocketbooks............hence a Tory Majority this Fall.........and you thought the Harper Tories were scared of the NDP, this is just the beginning. Actually corporations do pay taxes. If the best they can do is build it into their pricing, they risk being eaten by the competition, so they have to be competitive. Canadians are a little tired of the free ride so nope, no Tory majority this fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 That's an overly simplistic understanding of price elasticity. Sure, but then, we're discussing the NDP's economic and tax policies.......simplistic...naive....damaging....whatever you want to call it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Actually corporations do pay taxes. If the best they can do is build it into their pricing, they risk being eaten by the competition, so they have to be competitive. Canadians are a little tired of the free ride so nope, no Tory majority this fall. Their competition, if also in Canada, pays the same rates, inversely will also increase their prices to correlate with an increased tax burden..... The Canadians that vote and will decide this election won't vote to increase their personal expenses, be it through the NDP's proposed reversal of various tax cuts and credits, an NDP tax on Carbon, or an indirect increase in the price of consumer goods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Sure, but then, we're discussing the NDP's economic and tax policies.......simplistic...naive....damaging....whatever you want to call it. In comparison to income splitting, most would call it much.... fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Their competition, if also in Canada, pays the same rates, inversely will also increase their prices to correlate with an increased tax burden..... The Canadians that vote and will decide this election won't vote to increase their personal expenses, be it through the NDP's proposed reversal of various tax cuts and credits, an NDP tax on Carbon, or an indirect increase in the price of consumer goods. Perhaps they will vote for a government that can deliver a balanced budget, especially without robbing the rainy day fund and selling off shares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 In comparison to income splitting, most would call it much.... fair. Who cares? ~50% of Canadians pay next to no taxes.......the Conservative path to a Majority this year requires ~34 1/2-35% of Canadians to not want to pay more taxes so others get free/cheap daycare........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Perhaps they will vote for a government that can deliver a balanced budget, especially without robbing the rainy day fund and selling off shares. The NDP can't.......currently their promises will put us billions into the red, even with reversing personal tax cuts/credits and raising other taxes........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Sure, but then, we're discussing the NDP's economic and tax policies.......simplistic...naive....damaging....whatever you want to call it.Meaningless drivel. We're talking a 2 point increase and you're acting like it was a 50 point increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Who cares? ~50% of Canadians pay next to no taxes.......the Conservative path to a Majority this year requires ~34 1/2-35% of Canadians to not want to pay more taxes so others get free/cheap daycare........ Lets cut taxes altogether and throw away healthcare as well then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 The NDP can't.......currently their promises will put us billions into the red, even with reversing personal tax cuts/credits and raising other taxes........ Well, Harper has already proven over and over again he can put us in the red by billions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Meaningless drivel. We're talking a 2 point increase and you're acting like it was a 50 point increase. No, Mulcair stated bringing it into align with other G7 nations, which currently would translate into ~18-19%, or a 3-4% increase, not a 5-6% increase as thought my Mulcair......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Bringing it up to G7 rates would add 3.6%. He also stated he would do it incrementally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada_First Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Conservatives are 10-12% behind their finish last time around with minimal upside potential. Now that Harper's vision of a fossil fueled energy super power lies in ruins, his foes - as well as the electorate - smells the unmistakeable stench of failure. the polsters had the Torys like 9 points back from where they finished. They weren't supposed to get a majority according to polsters. Is it gard to believe they can have it wrong again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada_First Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Lets cut taxes altogether and throw away healthcare as well then. No one's said that. Canada has survived this long without national daycare subsidy. We don't need change right now.You make over 100k a year as a pilot maybe you can afford to pay more taxes. The rest of us cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Because people quickly get tired of lectures and ever growing rules and regulations from bossy authoritarian types. And the NDP is basically about being bossy authoritarians. These are people who think they know what's best for you and so you're damned well going to do what they want - or else! After all, everything they want is good, so if you won't do it then by definition you're bad. This is pure silliness. The authoritarian types are the ones trying to pass legislation to read your mail, or throw more people in prison, or tell people that the government needs to be bigger and more powerful to keep them safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 ...yet another interesting fact from the latest EKOS poll: Among university educated respondents, 41% intend to vote NDP, 21% for Conservatives. Does this mean the Tories have the "boor" vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 ...yet another interesting fact from the latest EKOS poll: Among university educated respondents, 41% intend to vote NDP, 21% for Conservatives. Does this mean the Tories have the "boor" vote? What percent of Canadians have a University degree? 30%? And of those that are University educated, and choosing to vote NDP, how many are employed in their field of study as opposed to mixing drinks or serving coffee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 What percent of Canadians have a University degree? 30%? And of those that are University educated, and choosing to vote NDP, how many are employed in their field of study as opposed to mixing drinks or serving coffee? Maybe thats why they are going to vote NDP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) What a day for Harper's Conservatives. First the Pope shakes his rosary beads at climate change deniers and fossil fuel cheerleaders and then yet another Harper appointment is tossed from the Conservative Senate caucus, this time for alleged sexual involvement with a teenage girl. What does this say about Harper's judgement in appointing a long list of people now convicted, under investigation or otherwise disgraced? Edited June 18, 2015 by Vancouver King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) What a day for Harper's Conservatives. First the Pope... Oh my...not the pope. Besides, Harper hasn't denied climate change. What does his say about Harper's judgement in appointing a long list of people now convicted, under investigation or otherwise disgraced? Harper isn't the only one that was bad at appointing senators. Edited June 18, 2015 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 What a day for Harper's Conservatives. First the Pope shakes his rosary beads at climate change deniers and fossil fuel cheerleaders and then yet another Harper appointment is tossed from the Conservative Senate caucus, this time for alleged sexual involvement with a teenage girl. What does his say about Harper's judgement in appointing a long list of people now convicted, under investigation or otherwise disgraced? Every long serving government has had a long list of people who had to retire or resign in disgrace. It's the nature of the human beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Maybe thats why they are going to vote NDP. Read the NDP policy manual and tell me how that's going to improve the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 No, Mulcair stated bringing it into align with other G7 nations, which currently would translate into ~18-19%, or a 3-4% increase, not a 5-6% increase as thought my Mulcair.........Imagine. Having a tax structure in line with comparable economies. How radical. How extreme that socialist agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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