NDP Make Big Move in Latest EKOS Poll

cybercoma · June 12, 2015

I'll make one prediction. If the NDP keeps going at this rate and they end up with a minority, I guarantee you Harper and Trudeau will either form a coalition to keep the "socialists" from ruining the country or bring down the Mulcair government post haste in a confidence vote. The Liberals have far more in common with Harper than they do the New Democrats. So that's my prediction. Unless the NDP gets a majority, they may not even form government.

Edited June 12, 2015 by cybercoma

WWWTT · June 12, 2015

My statement was a sarcastic response to "Tom will never be PM," since 6 months ago just about everyone would say "The NDP will never govern Alberta." Yet here we are with Rachel Notley as the first minister of Alberta.

I had a felling that was it.

WWWTT

WWWTT · June 12, 2015

I'll make one prediction. If the NDP keeps going at this rate and they end up with a minority, I guarantee you Harper and Trudeau will either form a coalition to keep the "socialists" from ruining the country or bring down the Mulcair government post haste in a confidence vote. The Liberals have far more in common with Harper than they do the New Democrats. So that's my prediction. Unless the NDP gets a majority, they may not even form government.

Very unpredictable hypothesis in several ways. But still a good one!

Probably worth it's own thread.

WWWTT

On Guard for Thee · June 12, 2015

My statement was a sarcastic response to "Tom will never be PM," since 6 months ago just about everyone would say "The NDP will never govern Alberta." Yet here we are with Rachel Notley as the first minister of Alberta.

Seemed pretty obvious to me.

Vancouver King · June 12, 2015

I agree completely with your prediction. Despite his take-no-prisoners hammering of the prospect of an opposition coalition, Harper would reach out to Liberals in a heartbeat to prevent Mulcair from forming govt. Conservative treachery knows no boundaries.

If the NDP repeat in Quebec there is a real possibility of the party forming a national majority. The timing of Duffy 's forthcoming court case headlines, the NDP's favorable Senate stance, Trudeau's undeniable fading and the prospect of Mulcair savaging Harper in the debates, all bodes well for the NDP.

There is something stirring in the electorate and it is not favorable for the old line parties.

jacee · June 12, 2015

http://www.ipolitics.ca/2015/06/12/the-ekos-poll-ndp-digs-a-deeper-lead-and-it-may-have-c-51-to-thank/

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This is not a blip.

The NDP has strength in:

Every province

Both genders

Every age group.

The winds of change are blowing ...

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Canada_First · June 12, 2015

http://www.ipolitics.ca/2015/06/12/the-ekos-poll-ndp-digs-a-deeper-lead-and-it-may-have-c-51-to-thank/

This is not a blip.

The NDP has strength in:

Every province

Both genders

Every age group.

The winds of change are blowing ...

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You think once they raise taxes and triple the national debt they can stay in power? Plus the Senate us stacked with Tories so Mulcair will be unable to do anything crazy. He'll just be a placeholder PM.

Plus if he's peaking now. It's too soon. You think they can hold momentum over the summer?

I have no horse in the race as I'm retired and on a pension. So it makes no difference to me who wins as my income us fixed. I guess with the NDP I may see a rise but that's it.

This election is more about what the younger generation want for the future of the country.

Edited June 12, 2015 by Canada_First

cybercoma · June 12, 2015

You think once they raise taxes and triple the national debt they can stay in power?

You think you might want to look at the Department of Finance numbers and recognize that the NDP spends more time in surplus than any other party. Then you can come back and admit that you're wrong about them "tripling the national debt." You may also want to recognize that 1/4 of the current national debt was accumulated under Harper.

Canada_First · June 12, 2015

You think you might want to look at the Department of Finance numbers and recognize that the NDP spends more time in surplus than any other party. Then you can come back and admit that you're wrong about them "tripling the national debt." You may also want to recognize that 1/4 of the current national debt was accumulated under Harper.

are you suggesting that had the NDP held the PMO for the last ten that they would have been more fiscally conservative?

cybercoma · June 12, 2015

are you suggesting that had the NDP held the PMO for the last ten that they would have been more fiscally conservative?

I'm suggesting you look into the numbers from NDP governments.

Canada_First · June 12, 2015

I'm suggesting you look into the numbers from NDP governments.

Every single one of them has gone down in flames. Look at Manitoba. The citizens of that province cannot wait to get rid of them. They're as good as gone. BC same thing. Nova Scotia was a bomb as well. Ontario they went from a majority to 4 seats. Yeah they've done great. What was I thinking....:/

Vancouver King · June 13, 2015

.... and now for the highlight number from today's EKOS poll:

Ontario federal numbers: NDP - 36

Libs - 26

Cons -26

Is it too early to put the champagne on ice?

Canada_First · June 13, 2015

.... and now for the highlight number from today's EKOS poll:

Ontario federal numbers: NDP - 36

Libs - 26

Cons -26

Is it too early to put the champagne on ice?

Can they keep this peak going for 5 months? I guess we shall see.

I'll be surprised if they win but will be happy as my pension will go up from the government. So that'll be good.

cybercoma · June 13, 2015

Every single one of them has gone down in flames. Look at Manitoba. The citizens of that province cannot wait to get rid of them. They're as good as gone. BC same thing. Nova Scotia was a bomb as well. Ontario they went from a majority to 4 seats. Yeah they've done great. What was I thinking....:/

You were talking about them running up deficits. Go look at their budgets vs the number of years they've been in office. They've been in a surplus more than any other party. So stop talking out of your ass.

Canada_First · June 13, 2015

You were talking about them running up deficits. Go look at their budgets vs the number of years they've been in office. They've been in a surplus more than any other party. So stop talking out of your ass.

If they're so superior why aren't they in power in every province and territory and running Canada forever?

jacee · June 13, 2015

If they're so superior why aren't they in power in every province and territory and running Canada forever?

We're getting there!

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Argus · June 14, 2015

If they're so superior why aren't they in power in every province and territory and running Canada forever?

Because people quickly get tired of lectures and ever growing rules and regulations from bossy authoritarian types. And the NDP is basically about being bossy authoritarians. These are people who think they know what's best for you and so you're damned well going to do what they want - or else!

After all, everything they want is good, so if you won't do it then by definition you're bad.

Edited June 14, 2015 by Argus

Vancouver King · June 14, 2015

It is obvious Conservative regulars on this forum will soon need an adjusted perspective on reality. A decade of talking down and tormenting their foes appears to be ending. Every new poll another nail in an arrogant, entitled coffin.

cybercoma · June 14, 2015

Because people quickly get tired of lectures and ever growing rules and regulations from bossy authoritarian types. And the NDP is basically about being bossy authoritarians. These are people who think they know what's best for you and so you're damned well going to do what they want - or else!

After all, everything they want is good, so if you won't do it then by definition you're bad.

Change NDP with CPC or LPC or any other party and you can make the same stupid condescending argument that has absolutely no meaning.

Smallc · June 14, 2015

It is obvious Conservative regulars on this forum will soon need an adjusted perspective on reality. A decade of talking down and tormenting their foes appears to be ending. Every new poll another nail in an arrogant, entitled coffin.

I doubt an NDP government will be terrible. We've had one for a long time here. I voted for them twice and may even do it a third time. I just wouldn't count my chickens if I were you.

Derek 2.0 · June 14, 2015

It is obvious Conservative regulars on this forum will soon need an adjusted perspective on reality. A decade of talking down and tormenting their foes appears to be ending. Every new poll another nail in an arrogant, entitled coffin.

Not the slightest, I'm quite content with the NDP polling well now and helping to displace the Trudeau Liberals as the anti-Harper vote. Likewise, once the Liberals are no longer a factor (late Summer?), as a Tory, I'll be confident in the Tories ability to further sway Canadians in a CPC-NDP race........

Vancouver King · June 14, 2015

I am confident counting my chickens 4 months out. The Ontario EKOS numbers point to a seismic shift never before witnessed in public opinion in the province that encompasses fully 40% of all Canadian federal elections. In a lifetime of reading such numbers I have never seen anything that resembles this political shift in the nation's heartland.

Mulcair increasingly looks like a winner.

Derek 2.0 · June 14, 2015

I doubt an NDP government will be terrible. We've had one for a long time here. I voted for them twice and may even do it a third time. I just wouldn't count my chickens if I were you.

And so they should heed your advice:

Derek 2.0 · June 14, 2015

I am confident counting my chickens 4 months out. The Ontario EKOS numbers point to a seismic shift never before witnessed in public opinion in the province that encompasses fully 40% of all Canadian federal elections. In a lifetime of reading such numbers I have never seen anything that resembles this political shift in the nation's heartland.

Mulcair increasingly looks like a winner.

Mulcair and the NDP, to date, have been given (by design) a largely free ride by not only the other parties, but by the media and economists alike...Once their platform is given further scrutiny (end of Summer) they will come back into factual orbit..........We (Conservatives) want to campaign against "social-democrats" on an national scale any day of the week, after all, an election encompassing policy versus personal media driven popularity is our strong suit, right in Prime Minister Harper's wheelhouse.

Edited June 14, 2015 by Derek 2.0

On Guard for Thee · June 14, 2015

Mulcair and the NDP, to date, have been given (by design) a largely free ride by not only the other parties, but by the media and economists alike...Once their platform is given further scrutiny (end of Summer) they will come back into factual orbit..........We (Conservatives) want to campaign against "social-democrats" on an national scale any day of the week, after all, an election encompassing policy versus personal media driven popularity is our strong suit, right in Prime Minister Harper's wheelhouse.

Except Harper's never in the wheelhouse. As each new scandal hits the headlines, he jumps on a plane. He will have a problem though if the Duffy trial keeps extending. Hard to be out of town and on the campaign trail at the same time.