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These businesses are almost all service oriented.

Tourism is the service business that can bring in foreign money. If the businesses close the money would go elsewhere. This can be true even for Canadian tourists that spend money in Canada instead of going abroad because options exist here. Agriculture is another produces something - closing down farms due to lack of workers just means we import more food from abroad. That said, what you say is true for fast food restaurants and other local service businesses.

2) is rare. Most of the time the point in bringing in a skilled immigrant to do the work is to save the company the time (and money) of training the necessary workers themselves.

It is not as rare as you might think. A business wants to expand but has no internal expertise available to provide training. Without access to foreign labour these businesses would be in trouble. That said, skilled workers could be brought in as regular immigrants (i.e. no need for a TFW).

You either believe in capitalism or you don't. I don't see the government rushing to relax import restrictions on goods which are expensive so that people can get them cheaper. Why, then, should they pour in new workers to keep wages depressed?

I agree generally. I am just pointing out that the program is addressing a legitimate need.
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Tourism is the service business that can bring in foreign money. If the businesses close the money would go elsewhere. This can be true even for Canadian tourists that spend money in Canada instead of going abroad because options exist here. Agriculture is another produces something - closing down farms due to lack of workers just means we import more food from abroad. That said, what you say is true for fast food restaurants and other local service businesses.

It is not as rare as you might think. A business wants to expand but has no internal expertise available to provide training. Without access to foreign labour these businesses would be in trouble. That said, skilled workers could be brought in as regular immigrants (i.e. no need for a TFW).

I agree generally. I am just pointing out that the program is addressing a legitimate need.

We don't need companies getting billions of dollars in subsidies, promising Canadians good paying jobs, then keeping TFW's here for five years. Complete BS for them to say they needed them here that long. Abuse of the tax payers money.

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/labour-war-green-energy-and-foreign-workers/

Another egregous abuse. They are here five years, working in fast food, and are now unemployed. They have a child here. How is this scenario helping anybody but this couple and their child (a Canadian citizen?) become a burden on tax payers now...and even more in the future.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/temporary-foreign-worker-couple-pleads-to-remain-in-canada-1.2886951

If you want to bring in immigrants for humanitarian reasons, fair enough. To an extent.

"They come to Canada being offered the promise to become permanent residency, and the vast majority think they have the opportunity to do that."

Isn't that the opposite of temporary?

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I'd like to see a government that just has sound management as a goal, and not transforming society or winning pitch battles in the culture war.

Just run the country... Make sure we have good infrastructure, and the trains run on time, etc. No more ideological legislation... Much less legislation in general.. No more omnibus bills. No more cracking down on things that aren't real problems. No more keystone cop world-policing using my money.

I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger

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I'd like to see a government that just has sound management as a goal, and not transforming society or winning pitch battles in the culture war.

Just run the country... Make sure we have good infrastructure, and the trains run on time, etc. No more ideological legislation... Much less legislation in general.. No more omnibus bills. No more cracking down on things that aren't real problems. No more keystone cop world-policing using my money.

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