On Guard for Thee Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 And so is pretty much everything that you're saying. On top of that, your assumptions have far less evidence to back them up. And so was much of the evidence of the GJ. The evidence accepted by the GJ is not well backed up either. Perhaps that is why the Ferguson police force isn't supporting Wilson. They know they got away with it this time, but let's not take a chance going ahead is what I think their conclusion could well be based on their actions. Quote
Smallc Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 There's no evidence that the police in Ferguson don't support him. There's ample evidence that the can't continue to do his job in the face of people that can't handle the truth. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 There's no evidence that the police in Ferguson don't support him. There's ample evidence that the can't continue to do his job in the face of people that can't handle the truth. I wonder then why they were so quick to announce that he was getting no severance package? Quote
Hal 9000 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 I wonder then why they were so quick to announce that he was getting no severance package? Do you? Do you really wonder why? Could it be something to do with the fact that the black community would rally, riot, burn and loot on the mere suggestion that Wilson is getting paid for shooting a black man - because that's exactly how it would be perceived. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hal 9000 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 He may have turned, the reasons why are assumptive. So, you do agree that he turned around and came toward office Wilson who had a gun pointed at him...Right? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 So, you do agree that he turned around and came toward office Wilson who had a gun pointed at him...Right? Apparently the fatal shot entered the top of his skull which indicates he was falling down at the time that shot was fired and facing Wilson. Quote
Smallc Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 Apparently the fatal shot entered the top of his skull which indicates he was falling down at the time that shot was fired and facing Wilson. It could also indicate that he was charging head down. That fits the story that the evidence narrates far better. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) Apparently the fatal shot entered the top of his skull which indicates he was falling down at the time that shot was fired and facing Wilson. Why would he be falling down with head forward? Edited December 2, 2014 by Hal 9000 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 It could also indicate that he was charging head down. That fits the story that the evidence narrates far better. That's right, it could mean either one. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 Why would he be falling down with head forward? Umm what's so hard to understand about that? Never fallen down before? Quote
Smallc Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 That's right, it could mean either one. The overall evidentiary picture points to one version of events. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 Umm what's so hard to understand about that? Never fallen down before? I've never fallen head first toward someone while standing still. The evidence of the gun shot wounds (to the head) as well as body position proves that Brown was moving forward when the final shot was taken. The only question would be; "what speed was he moving". But, that doesn't really matter - because he was moving toward Wilson to where Wilson had to back away. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 I've never fallen head first toward someone while standing still. The evidence of the gun shot wounds (to the head) as well as body position proves that Brown was moving forward when the final shot was taken. The only question would be; "what speed was he moving". But, that doesn't really matter - because he was moving toward Wilson to where Wilson had to back away. I've fallen forward more often then I've ever fallen backward. All you have to do is trip over a bump in the sidewalk, which is probably easy enough when you are already suffering from gunshot wounds. Quote
Smallc Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 I've fallen forward more often then I've ever fallen backward. All you have to do is trip over a bump in the sidewalk, Yeah, that's probably what happened Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 Yeah, that's probably what happened Well you've ignored the fact he was already shot so your obviously just playing games here. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) I've fallen forward more often then I've ever fallen backward. All you have to do is trip over a bump in the sidewalk, which is probably easy enough when you are already suffering from gunshot wounds. So, you agree that he would've had to have been moving forward. Edited December 2, 2014 by Hal 9000 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 So, you agree that he would've had to have been moving forward. No, only facing forward and falling forward would do it. Why would you assume he would have had to be moving? Quote
Smallc Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 Well you've ignored the fact he was already shot so your obviously just playing games here. In the hand. He was never shot from the back. Quote
Smallc Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 No, only facing forward and falling forward would do it. Why would you assume he would have had to be moving? From a still standing position, a blast from a weapon should push you in which direction? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 From a still standing position, a blast from a weapon should push you in which direction? From a falling forward position a shot through the top of you skull should do what? Quote
Hal 9000 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 From a falling forward position a shot through the top of you skull should do what? Ok, you're disagreeing with the idea that Brown was moving forward? Even with the position of his body, the eyewitnesses, the entry wounds and shell casings? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 Ok, you're disagreeing with the idea that Brown was moving forward? Even with the position of his body, the eyewitnesses, the entry wounds and shell casings? As I've already pointed out, he was facing forwrd, could have been falling forward when the fatal shot hit. All the rest is inconclusive, including the "eyewitnesses" Quote
Hal 9000 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 As I've already pointed out, he was facing forwrd, could have been falling forward when the fatal shot hit. All the rest is inconclusive, including the "eyewitnesses" He was falling forward, that's not in question. The idea posed is; was he standing still or was he coming at Officer Wilson? It's clear from every bit of evidence that he was coming forward - would you at least agree to that? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 He was falling forward, that's not in question. The idea posed is; was he standing still or was he coming at Officer Wilson? It's clear from every bit of evidence that he was coming forward - would you at least agree to that? If you want to accept that evidence that's up to you. This thing was handled so badly it's hard to accept much of it without questioning it. Was he coming forward, how fast , had he already been shot a number of times, how many. Those are questions you need to know and they aren't shown in this thing. Quote
jacee Posted December 2, 2014 Report Posted December 2, 2014 Brown says 8-10 feet. It appears that the GJ supported Browns story.I assume you mean Wilson? But, lets use some logic; If Brown ran 35-40 feet before Wilson gave chase and assuming they ran at about the same pace and blood was found 175 feet from the car, we can assume that when Brown stopped Wilson was approximately 140-150 feet from his police car when Brown turned around. Brown died approx. 153 feet from the police car. Wilson claims he took a few step backward as Brown was running toward him. Common sense would dictate that Brown was anywhere between 10-20 feet from Wilson when the final shot was fired - depending on who ran faster and Wilson's reaction time to when he also stopped running. 20 feet is nothing when a person is already running, maybe a couple of seconds. At 10 feet, If Wilson had missed that final shot (or 2), Brown would've taken him down. P.S - Yes, you'll ask for a link or proof, anything that helps keep your mind closed, but the fact is; credible eyewitnesses back-up Wilson. Yes a link to that please. . Quote
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