PrimeNumber Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 The U.S. was forged in weeks of debate among some of the most intelligent people in the world, in 1776 (the Declaration of Independence) and 1787 (the Constitution). Your equivalents? We may not have a declaration of Independence but we don't need one, yet. We have a Constitution, A Charter of Rights and Freedoms. I don't know what you're trying to prove here? Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
jbg Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 We may not have a declaration of Independence but we don't need one, yet. We have a Constitution, A Charter of Rights and Freedoms. I don't know what you're trying to prove here? The Charter of Rights and Freedoms indeed exists. It's protections are as solid as Swiss cheese. All rights are "subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society." And the notorious "notwithstanding" clause traded for Quebec's joining the Charter's ratification. Oops that never happened. Or the protection of property rights. Oops again. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
WestCoastRunner Posted October 6, 2014 Author Report Posted October 6, 2014 The Charter of Rights and Freedoms indeed exists. It's protections are as solid as Swiss cheese. All rights are "subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society." And the notorious "notwithstanding" clause traded for Quebec's joining the Charter's ratification. Oops that never happened. Or the protection of property rights. Oops again. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted October 6, 2014 Author Report Posted October 6, 2014 You are an American telling us our rights? Do I have that correct? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
On Guard for Thee Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 The Charter of Rights and Freedoms indeed exists. It's protections are as solid as Swiss cheese. All rights are "subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society." And the notorious "notwithstanding" clause traded for Quebec's joining the Charter's ratification. Oops that never happened. Or the protection of property rights. Oops again. Tell that to Stephen Harper. He has tried to mess with the "swiss cheese" at least 3 times so far and the SCC shut him down each time. I think it's more like cheddar cheese. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 You are an American telling us our rights? Do I have that correct? That is quite a concept isn't it! Quote
jbg Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 You are an American telling us our rights? Do I have that correct? As if we don't get lectured enough on here? There are some Americans who routinely trash Canada. Not me. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
PrimeNumber Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 The Charter of Rights and Freedoms indeed exists. It's protections are as solid as Swiss cheese. All rights are "subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society." And the notorious "notwithstanding" clause traded for Quebec's joining the Charter's ratification. Oops that never happened. Or the protection of property rights. Oops again. haha that's laughable your own Presidents violate your constitution, the person elected to uphold it. As On Guard For Thee has stated our PM has tried to get around it numerous times and failed. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
jbg Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 haha that's laughable your own Presidents violate your constitution, the person elected to uphold it. As On Guard For Thee has stated our PM has tried to get around it numerous times and failed. I never said the U.S. was perfect. Far from it. The U.S., followed closely by Canada, Israel, Australia, New Zealand and the U.K. are simply the greatest countries in the world. Life is good. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
PrimeNumber Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 I never said the U.S. was perfect. Far from it. The U.S., followed closely by Canada, Israel, Australia, New Zealand and the U.K. are simply the greatest countries in the world. Life is good. I will agree with you on 5 out of 6 of those. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
jbg Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 I will agree with you on 5 out of 6 of those. Let's see if I guess right. You hate Jews and thus Israel? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
PrimeNumber Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 Let's see if I guess right. You hate Jews and thus Israel? I like jews. But disliking Israel does not make me an anti-semite no more than disliking the DPRK makes me anti-korean. I just think their leadership needs some adjustments. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
jbg Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 I like jews. But disliking Israel does not make me an anti-semite no more than disliking the DPRK makes me anti-korean. I just think their leadership needs some adjustments. Given the history, there really is no distinction between Jew hatred and hatred of Israel. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
waldo Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 Let's see if I guess right. You hate Jews and thus Israel? Given the history, there really is no distinction between Jew hatred and hatred of Israel. this thread??? Quote
jbg Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 this thread??? No. Jewish history. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
The_Squid Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 Given the history, there really is no distinction between Jew hatred and hatred of Israel. LOL This is laughable and idiotic. Quote
dre Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 That means you'd be willing to live with the consequences of doing nothing and let ISIS run rampant over the Middle East. The situation is different today than it was in 2003....but at least you've made your position clear. That's all anyone can ask. No the situation isnt really that different. In fact this is the same insurgency that the US failed to defeat during the aftermath of operation: Oops! Put quite simply... this is the same war we were smart enough to stay out of the first time. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
PIK Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 This could be one event that brings the world closer together. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
dre Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 ISIL's main headquarters, from all I've read, are in Syria. That's where it's getting its recruits and equipment. It's true some of the originals came across as volunteers from Iraq among other places, but the group was spawned in Syria's civil war. No, and thats the scary thing. Youre all up in arms cheering on military action when you dont even have a basic grasp of the facts. ISIL was not "spawned during the syrian civil war". They are ISI.... founded In Iraq in 2006. They formally announced their expansion into Syra in april 2013 and added an "L" onto the end of their name. This is still the aftermath of the 2003 invasion. The US achieved a measure of success by putting these guys on the payroll... but the Iraqi government stopped paying them and now they are back. Canada got tricked into trying to clean up the mess resulting in the 2003 invasion. This is still the same war, and we arent going to have any more success stopping the Sunni insurgency than we did the first time around. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
dre Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 Given the history, there really is no distinction between Jew hatred and hatred of Israel. Wow... that pretty much says it all. In the mind of an abject simpleton there can be no critisism of the nation-state of Irsael by anyone that doesnt hate jews. You realize that you were actually stupid enough to say that right? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Argus Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 Tell that to Stephen Harper. He has tried to mess with the "swiss cheese" at least 3 times so far and the SCC shut him down each time. I think it's more like cheddar cheese. No, there are a lot of ways around or over many of the protections in the Charter of Rights. Harper simply has not chosen to make use of them. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 No, there are a lot of ways around or over many of the protections in the Charter of Rights. Harper simply has not chosen to make use of them. Funny that the PM wouldn't know those "ways" Quote
Solastalgia Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 Given the history, there really is no distinction between Jew hatred and hatred of Israel. Breathtaking. Quote Yippie! Aldo Leopold! A thing is right when it tends to preserve the integrity, stability, and beauty of the biotic community. It is wrong when it tends otherwise.- A Sand County Almanac
PIK Posted October 7, 2014 Report Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/10/07/support-continues-to-dip-_n_5945422.html?utm_hp_ref=canada-politics&ir=Canada+Politics People getting tired of the part time drama teacher? Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
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