Rue Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Here is a recent article explaining the tie in between Erdogan and the Muslim Brotherhood. I have called Erdogan and he's sending me a photo copy of his id card for Huxley: http://europenews.dk/en/node/81183 To deny Erdogan is connected to the Muslim Brotherhood and engage in semantics as to whether he has an id card is hilarious. It is a fact that just this last Sunday August 18, Sheikh Yusuf Ali Quaradawi made numerous statements with TV Turkia stating Instanbul was the capital of the Muslim caliphate and Turkey is the country from which it is based. He referred to the Muslim Brotherhood vision of a Muslim caliphate ranging from Morrocco to India, including Shiite and Sunnis (and in this doctrine if you are a Kurd, Bereber, Jew, Christian, Zoroastrean, Yazidi, Amidyya or Ismaili Muslim, Druze, oh guess..) Its nice to know the Sheikh referred to Erdogan as going to succeed in achieving this caliphate since Allah and the angels (Salil Al Muminin, Gabriel) are behind him and he is a man of the Lord. Now see I have never seen Erdogan's id card, but I know the Sheikh wishes him well in his quest to unite all Muslim countries in one large caliphate and hey it does not stop there, they go on to free the world and bring it back under world Islamic control. Which is a good thing.Why? Well Mrs. Erdogan as some of you may said it was unbecoming for Muslim women to laugh in public. Its high time we crack down on laughing women. Anyone can go find out for themselves on the internet the tie in between the Sheikh and Erdogan. The comments are public. Erdogan as well now regularly shows the Raiba finger salute in al public speeches showing his direct tie to the Muslim Brotherhood. For someone who denounced terror he now openly supports Hamas and ISIS not just with offices, intelligence and military support, but open intervention against the US. Erdogan is so busy fighting Syria, Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and watching his back on Iran, all countries he has alienated, he's not sure what to do next. Erdogan openly embraced Obama as a friend and ally of the Muslim Brotherhood. Obama openly committed himself to the Muslim Brotherhood vision and when it proved to be undemocratic and engaging in the suspension of democratic rights and inciting genocide against Coptics, he stayed silent. When Erdogan found himself faced with street riots protesting his extreme Muslim fundamentalist beliefs and corruption (a son taking bribes and passing them on from Erdogan) Obama was silent-this from the same man who openly applauded the street riots on Egypt against Mubarak. Erdogan is a Muslim Brotherhood principal player. So is Obama. They both committed their foreign policies to this organization thinking it was the way to stabilize the Middle easy and its proved an absolute failure and anything but a stabilizing force. Edited August 20, 2014 by Rue Quote
GostHacked Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Rue is correct, Erdogan cannot be trusted. It looks like Ergodan supports the MB, but possibly through another small proxy group. Also Erdogan/Turkey might even be supporting ISIS in some way. Quote
Rue Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Ghost you can type in ISIS connection to Turkey on the internet and read for yourself the hundreds of articles as to this issue. What is suprising is Huxley the Kurd expert did not mention that the Syrian Kurdish Leader, Salih Muslim has repeatedly accused Turkey of supporting ISIS directly with weapons and training. The Governor of Hatay region, Celalettin Lekesiz has also confirmed this. Jordan has allowed leaks from its intelligence stating the US trained ISIS in Turkey and now they fear it will turn on them as it has on the US. ISIS appears to be a composite of a group of Sunni Muslim terrorist groups who want a SUNNI Muslim caliphate in Egypt, Syria, Israel,Lebanon. Iraq, Jordan and Israel to start with then moving on to amalgamate the rest of the Muslim world state by tate, then the world. Its not like their vision and doctrine is secret. Its public domain. The problem is Obama bought into it thinking since Erdogan supported it, these anti Iran-Hezbollah-Syria Isis factions would be good for the US. ISIS was directly behind Ghaddafi's removal. Israel and Egypt repeatedly warned the US to stand down from ISIS or it would turn on them. Obama told both countries and Saudi Arabia who also warned the same thing, to back off. Even Jordan tried to warn the US but was ignored. Now Obama is flippity flopping as he now finds himself drawn back into Iraq over ISIS attacking Kurds and Yazidis. I guess for a man unconcerned when it was Christians in Sudan or Egypt, he may have developed a conscience...or could it be he now realizes ISIS like every other Muslim extremist group the US has supported has turned on him. You would have thought Obama would have learned from the Taliban.Nope. Not him. In he went to Libya embracing their overthrow of Ghaddafi onlyt o get his Ambaassador sodomized to death in public for being gay. He does not get it. To get into bed with the Muslim Brotherhood who is solidly behind ISIS and Erdogan is an absolute and utter failure on his part to understand the psyche of Islamic politics in the Middle East. Edited August 20, 2014 by Rue Quote
eyeball Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Here in Canada, people may not be members of the Liberal or Conservative parties - but many are certain to identify themselves as Liberal or Conservative.I disagree. Here in Canada people are quicker to disavow any overt partisan association whatsoever. They're more likely to assert what they are not than what they are. Edited August 20, 2014 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
G Huxley Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Posted August 21, 2014 So Rue let's get this straight: Erdogan is not a member of the Muslim Brotherhood contrary to your previous statement that he was. Quote
Rue Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 So let's get this straight Huxley, you remain fixated on pretending he is not a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood because you want his i.d. card. Move on Huxley. You might also want to tell him to stop using that Raiba hand gesture. Call him. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 Ghost you can type in ISIS connection to Turkey on the internet and read for yourself the hundreds of articles as to this issue. What is suprising is Huxley the Kurd expert did not mention that the Syrian Kurdish Leader, Salih Muslim has repeatedly accused Turkey of supporting ISIS directly with weapons and training. I can also get results when I search for CIA and ISIS. Quote
G Huxley Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) No Rue I remain fixated on the fact that you are a liar with not even the character to admit your lie. What's the point on having further discussion with such a person who not only lies, but then won't even admit he was wrong when he can't put forth any evidence confirming his absurd claim 'the big lie.' The Big Lie for anyone unfamiliar with it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie Edited August 21, 2014 by G Huxley Quote
Rue Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 I can also get results when I search for CIA and ISIS. Absolutely. The notion of supporting ISIS was a foreign policy initiative of Obama who was convinced the Muslim Brotherhood-ISIS-Turkey-Hamas constellation was the way to go. The tie in to the US and ISIS and Turkey and Hamas is all there. You hear that flippity flop noise? That's Obama trying to moon walk backwords away from ISIS and Erdogan. A little late. This Muslim Brotherhood love in between the Muslim bruddahhood, Obama, Erdogan. Hamas and Isis has isolated the US from its main Middle East partners, Egypt, Israel, Saudi Arabia, the Unite Arab Emirates. Obama's sudden realization Isis is an extremist organization is a joke. He openly supported it in Syria and Libya. Isis and the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas are all one rotton constellation of extremist Sunnis. They are engaged in a civil war with Hezbollah and Iran and they wil drag the whole Middle East into their mess. Obama and Kerry were warned over and over, do not get into bed with Erdogan, the Brotherhood or Isis-Obama went in full speed first with Morsi and Erdogan then with Isis in Syria. Obama in fact empowered Isis by sucking up to Erdogan who was training and equipping them. The US wiffled and waffled when original Syrian civilians tried an uprising giving no support. By the time they reacted, Putin was on the side of Assad with Iran and the US dithered so long Putin laughed in his face ridiculing him empowering outside Sunni extremists who make up ISIS to come into Syria wipe out the other opponents of Assad and take over for themselves certain regions of Syria. Assyrians, Berbers, Druze are now endangered thanks to the idiot Obama's wafflings. Obama is a disaster on the world stage trying to play out his not so secret I am a Muslim Brotherhood friend song. It hasn't worked. he lost any credibility in the Middle East thinking he could kiss the Saudi King's ass in public while trying to suck up to the Muslim Brotherhood at the same time. He's an idiot. he really thought he would unite Muslims or at least he convinced the CIA he could. Game over. You want to play in the big leagues Bam Bam its too late. You have spent so much time apologizing and trying to be a nice guy you have been laughed off the world stage. Even that fat little rabid boy in North Korea giggles at you. The sooner Bambity Boo Bam is gone the better. The US needs a strong leader who doesn't studder and flip and flop and making sucking and blowing noises on the world stage. Quote
Rue Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 Strong leadership is playing golf when a citizen of your country is be-headed. No problem though,Obama cut his game short 5 minutes to make a quick comment saying ISIS bad. Isis very bad. Bad bad bad. Yah you told em Barry. Quote
Rue Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 Huxley nothing I have posted is a "lie" and calling me a liar, yet another personal attack is par for the course. Erdogan's connection to the Muslim Brotherhood is fact. Attacking me personally won't change that. You want an id card go get one from him. His policies, speeches, statements, foreign policy, raiba finger salute, constant support of the Muslim Brotherhood, Isis and Hamas, his extremist comments in support of the brotherhood, his being called a brother by their leader and fawned over by the Muslim Brotherhood leader as stated, is fact. You want to avoid that fact by trying to call me a liar will not change it. Go on Huxley stick your tongue out. http://www.progressivepress.net/muslim-brotherhood-fully-supports-erdogan-al-qaradawi-say/ http://goingglobaleastmeetswest.blogspot.ca/2014/05/turkish-prime-minister-erdogan-supports.html http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/turkey-pm-erdogan-unabashed-support-muslim-brotherhood Quote
eyeball Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 The US needs a strong leader who doesn't studder and flip and flop and making sucking and blowing noises on the world stage. Like GW Bush? Now there was one tough act to follow. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
G Huxley Posted August 22, 2014 Author Report Posted August 22, 2014 Rue: You didn't say Erdogan had connections to the Muslim Brotherhood.You said specifically that Erdogan was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.Now its time to retract your lie. Huxley wih due respect you need to read up on the issue. Turkey is at war with the Kurds. It supports ISIS. Its leader is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood that supports ISIS in its war in Syria and Iraq. Erdogan considers Yazidi no differently then he does Jews-he considers them kaafir. Quote
Rue Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 Huxley he is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. So is Obama. So are you. Quote
Rue Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) Now while Huxley demands I produce his id card for the Muslim brotherhood let's recap shall we. Ersdogan stated Hamas is not a terorist organization, Israel is a terrorist state and ISIS is not a terrorist organization. Got that Huxley? Wait that's the door bell. It might be someone with Erdogan's id card. Let me go check... Edited August 22, 2014 by Rue Quote
Rue Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 While Huxley continues to demand I produce an ID Muslim Brotherhood card from Erdogan I continue with the information which makes clear the link between Erdogan, ISIS, Hamas, and the Muslim Brotherhood. http://romanticpoet.wordpress.com/2013/09/09/report-turkeys-islamist-pm-helping-funnel-foreign-jihadists-and-weapons-into-syriaerdogan-working-with-muslim-brotherhood-and-al-qaeda/ http://www.jcpa.org/text/Turkey_Muslim_Brotherhood.pdf http://www.jewishpress.com/news/muslim-brotherhood-channel-finds-home-in-turkey/2013/12/23/ http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/59246 http://www.aawsat.net/2014/04/article55331627 http://article.wn.com/view/2014/08/12/Muslim_Brotherhood_Congratulates_Turkish_People_on_Electing_/ Quote
G Huxley Posted August 23, 2014 Author Report Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) Huxley he [Erdogan] is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. So is Obama. So are you. I rest my case: You Rue are a complete idiot. Replace the word Muslim Brotherhood with the Communist party and you are Joe Mccarthy's Ghost, except you make even Mccarthy look honest in comparison. You offer the perfect example of the Big Lie. Edited August 23, 2014 by G Huxley Quote
Rue Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 Oh look who is calling names again So how long have you been a member? I used to be a member of the YMCA and Ontario Humane Society you know. Quote
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