guyser Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 Would you care to explain why you feel this is any different from the previous case where the BC College of Teachers tried exactly the same move on TRU and were slapped down by the Supreme Court? Civil Marriage Act became law in 2005. Quote
Wilber Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 Civil Marriage Act became law in 2005. That was nine years ago and the covenant still stands because of a Supreme Court ruling, so what's your point? BTW, who is saying gays can't get married? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
guyser Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 That was nine years ago and the covenant still stands because of a Supreme Court ruling, so what's your point? BTW, who is saying gays can't get married? Because the law says one cannot discriminate against them as per the CMA . The other court case was prior to the CMA thus the verdict. I really dont get the concern on this. It isnt like the LSUC is saying they cant be lawyers. They can be, even in Ontario. If they pull the one convenant that discrimates then everything is fine. But if they want to be the typical martyr (christians the worst) then they should expect flak. Quote
Wilber Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 A: Gay marriage has nothing to do with a schools academic qualifications. B: Religious organizations can refuse to marry whoever they want. C: The SC decision established Trinity's rights. They can't be taken away by legislation. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
WestCoastRunner Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Posted April 29, 2014 I'm throwing in the towel. Let's see how the next round of BC's accreditation unfolds. I have expressed my opinions and like i say, this is going in circles. I don't really care about legislation. I care about how Canada is proceeding with this covenant, which would be a first in Canada. I have already expressed that in this thread. It is wrong to allow this University to demand their students sign this covenant. Let's not got bogged down in legalize. Let's look at it from a canadian human rights perspective. We don't want to go down the road of the U.S.'s religious prejudical education system. Again, I repeat. This would be a first in Canada. Let's do the right thing for Canada. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 Has nothing to do with the U.S. Several provinces already have "prejudicial education systems" through the Constitution Act. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Â
WestCoastRunner Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Posted April 29, 2014 Has nothing to do with the U.S. Several provinces already have "prejudicial education systems" through the Constitution Act. This would be a first for a university requesting their students signing a covenant such as this in Canada. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Posted April 29, 2014 This would be a first for a university requesting their students signing a covenant such as this in Canada. I should rephrase that from requesting to demanding. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) This would be a first for a university requesting their students signing a covenant such as this in Canada. I doubt that, but I do understand the need for the obligatory anti-American rhetoric to pump up the excitement. It is not difficult to find such things in Canadian colleges and seminaries, like this interesting "covenant" from Briercrest (Caronport, SK) : ...sexual immorality or any form of interpersonal sexual activity conducted outside of a monogamous, heterosexual marriage http://www.briercrest.ca/media/556530/Briercrest%20Seminary%20Student%20Life%20Covenant.pdf Edited April 29, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Â
WestCoastRunner Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) I doubt that, but I do understand the need for the obligatory anti-American rhetoric to pump up the excitement. It is not difficult to find such things in Canadian colleges and seminaries, like this interesting "covenant" from Briercrest (Caronport, SK) : ...sexual immorality or any form of interpersonal sexual activity conducted outside of a monogamous, heterosexual marriage http://www.briercrest.ca/media/556530/Briercrest%20Seminary%20Student%20Life%20Covenant.pdf Are you kidding me. This university does not offer a law program. Take a look at what they offer: http://www.briercrest.ca/seminary/programs Don't you subscribe to the same anti-canadian rhetoric. I can give plenty of examples, if you wish. Edited April 29, 2014 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 Are you kidding me. This university does not offer university programs. Take a look at what they offer: http://www.briercrest.ca/seminary/programs Don't you subscribe to the same anti-canadian rhetoric. I can give plenty of examples, if you wish. Nice cop out....so it would be OK for Canadian colleges to demand such covenants ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Â
WestCoastRunner Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Posted April 29, 2014 Nice cop out....so it would be OK for Canadian colleges to demand such covenants ? You are so off the charts with this response. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 You are so off the charts with this response. No problem....my only interest was in responding to the usual anti-U.S. rhetoric with covenants that already exist in Canadian colleges and seminaries. No U.S. boogey man required.....sorry. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Â
WestCoastRunner Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Posted April 29, 2014 No problem....my only interest was in responding to the usual anti-U.S. rhetoric with covenants that already exist in Canadian colleges and seminaries. No U.S. boogey man required.....sorry. That was a poor example of a canadian covenant. Give us another one. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 That was a poor example of a canadian covenant. Give us another one. The point has been clearly made...it's even called a "covenant". I believe that SK = Saskatchewan Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Â
WestCoastRunner Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Posted April 29, 2014 The point has been clearly made...it's even called a "covenant". I believe that SK = Saskatchewan Again, a very poor example. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 Again, a very poor example. Very well...but an example nonetheless. Such covenants already exist in Canada. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Â
WestCoastRunner Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Posted April 29, 2014 Very well...but an example nonetheless. Such covenants already exist in Canada. I just don't buy it. Sorry. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Posted April 29, 2014 I just don't buy it. Sorry. You just cant find a better example. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 I just don't buy it. Sorry. That's OK...this is a teaching moment. I get to demonstrate that such covenants already exist in Canada beyond the BC law school, and you get to disagree. This is how discussion forums work. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Â
WestCoastRunner Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Posted April 29, 2014 That's OK...this is a teaching moment. I get to demonstrate that such covenants already exist in Canada beyond the BC law school, and you get to disagree. This is how discussion forums work. You haven't really demonstrated an example like the Trinity University Covenant. I understand how discussion forums work. Please don't be condescending as you like to practice. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Bob Macadoo Posted April 30, 2014 Report Posted April 30, 2014 That's OK...this is a teaching moment. I get to demonstrate that such covenants already exist in Canada beyond the BC law school, and you get to disagree. This is how discussion forums work.No its how passive aggressive shutins get their kicks. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Posted April 30, 2014 You haven't really demonstrated an example like the Trinity University Covenant. I understand how discussion forums work. Please don't be condescending as you like to practice. No example will satisfy your obvious bias and ideology. I easily found one....could easily find more. The point vis-a-vis existing student covenants has been made whether you agree or not. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Â
WestCoastRunner Posted April 30, 2014 Author Report Posted April 30, 2014 No example will satisfy your obvious bias and ideology. I easily found one....could easily find more. The point vis-a-vis existing student covenants has been made whether you agree or not. Find more and show me at the university level with a law school degree program. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted April 30, 2014 Author Report Posted April 30, 2014 No its how passive aggressive shutins get their kicks. thank you. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
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