cybercoma Posted April 15, 2014 Report Posted April 15, 2014 The Harper Government was kind enough to give us an integrity commissioner because if Conservatives are about anything they're about integrity and accountability. However, an audit done by Michael Fergusson shows serious mismanagement coming out of the Integrity Commissioner's office. They've lost confidential files, poorly handled conflict of interest, and revealed a whistleblower to the alleged wrongdoer. This follows the resignation of the first Integrity Commissioner who was found to be mistreating her staff and failing to fulfill her mandate by the Auditor General in 2010. So the question is, why have real accountability when you can feign the appearance of it? Article from The Canadian Press here. Quote
waldo Posted April 15, 2014 Report Posted April 15, 2014 and the Harper Conservative bumbling hits just keep coming... "the black-hole office where serious allegations of government wrongdoing disappear" Quote
waldo Posted April 15, 2014 Report Posted April 15, 2014 But AdScam...and Chrétien. but the Libs, but the Libs!!! Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 16, 2014 Report Posted April 16, 2014 And I have to question the whole concept of reaching back into history to dredge up some scandal, real or imagined, to somehow justify a current one. Quote
cybercoma Posted April 16, 2014 Author Report Posted April 16, 2014 I guess the Conservative forum members are waiting for their talking points to be emailed to them. Seems they have plenty of time for the other topics though. Quote
waldo Posted April 16, 2014 Report Posted April 16, 2014 ya, it's very quiet in here... clearly, no MLW Harper Conservative supporters want to touch this thread Quote
bleeding heart Posted April 16, 2014 Report Posted April 16, 2014 A matter of time....soon,. a blogger will inform them what to say. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
cybercoma Posted April 18, 2014 Author Report Posted April 18, 2014 Maybe those talking points will come out next week. Quote
eyeball Posted April 18, 2014 Report Posted April 18, 2014 OTOH if everyone just keeps quiet maybe it'll go away. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
On Guard for Thee Posted April 18, 2014 Report Posted April 18, 2014 Maybe those talking points will come out next week. No QP to show up for currently so the CPC "talking point" machine has been switched off. It must need some cool down time by now anyway. Just think, if it broke down Harper might have to actually come up with an answer, an actual "clear" one. Quote
-TSS- Posted April 19, 2014 Report Posted April 19, 2014 The fact that news like this comes out in public only goes to show that Canada is a country where civil servants really are public servants unlike in a country like Finland where civil servants think that people are their subjects and in all other ways a nuisance. Quote
eyeball Posted April 19, 2014 Report Posted April 19, 2014 I get the distinct sense from ground level public servants that I know personally, receptionists, clerks, workers etc that we're in much the same boat. I only get the sense you're talking about from the people further up the food chain that receptionists, clerks and workers answer to. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
-TSS- Posted April 19, 2014 Report Posted April 19, 2014 I get the distinct sense from ground level public servants that I know personally, receptionists, clerks, workers etc that we're in much the same boat. I only get the sense you're talking about from the people further up the food chain that receptionists, clerks and workers answer to. Absolutely, I agree with you on that. I was referring to the top dogs. In Canada even top civil servants who forget that they are servants, not masters, are soon shown their place. Not in Finland. In Finland people are castigated if they spoil the fun of civil servants. However, in our language the equivalent of civil servant is "virkamies" which is mire like a public executive. Quote
eyeball Posted April 19, 2014 Report Posted April 19, 2014 Public executive would probably better describe the top dogs in Canada - senior civil servants or deputy ministers, which in turn protect their political masters from the public and any sort of oversight or penetration of the halls of power. I think it's as a rare day here as in Finland when anything spoils their day or shows them their place. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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