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http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/15/us/asiana-crash-new-video/

(CNN) -- Teenager Ye Meng Yuan didn't die when a plane crashed at San Francisco International Airport last July. She actually survived the impact, only to die minutes later after a fire truck ran over her.

Now, newly released video suggests emergency workers saw Ye's injured body on the ground before she was fatally struck -- challenging earlier claims that she was accidentally run over because she may have been covered in firefighting foam.

In the footage, one firefighter tried to stop an emergency vehicle racing toward the scene.

"Whoa, whoa, whoa! Stop, stop, stop! There's a body ... there's a body right there. Right in front of you," the firefighter told the driver.

This has got to be the dumbest thing I've every seen anyone do, EVER! What did your contract stipulate you can't approach a body to make sure if he/she's alive or not? They just assumed she was dead and then ran her over TWICE!!!!

These firefighters need to face CRIMINAL charges. If I was that family I would want everyone in that video face jail time.

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Nonsense. No firefighter is going to deliberately run over a body, even if he thinks it's dead. THey did avoid the body, but in the continual movement and firefighting, as foam covered the ground and the trucks shifted position, she was indeed run over by accident. The real error was on the part of the firefighter on the ground who assumed she was dead and didnt' bother to check for vital signs.

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Nonsense. No firefighter is going to deliberately run over a body, even if he thinks it's dead. THey did avoid the body, but in the continual movement and firefighting, as foam covered the ground and the trucks shifted position, she was indeed run over by accident. The real error was on the part of the firefighter on the ground who assumed she was dead and didnt' bother to check for vital signs.

Nonsense. Just because an action isn't deliberate doesn't mean it's not some type of gross negligence.

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This is the US.

Her family will get millions because the defence will see her accidental death as part of a grand conspiracy against the poor woman.

She was actually run over twice by fire fighting equipment, the second time when she was covered in foam.

Science too hard for you? Try religion!

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The running over part is just what ended up actually killing her. The true, inexcusable, incompetence is that a body was assumed dead and left in the vicinity of fire trucks.

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Nonsense. Just because an action isn't deliberate doesn't mean it's not some type of gross negligence.

Shady's actually right for a change. Actions don't need to be deliberate to be criminal.
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Shady's actually right for a change. Actions don't need to be deliberate to be criminal.

Criminal? Have any firefighters been charged with a crime, or is this a civil suit?

Science too hard for you? Try religion!

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Criminal? Have any firefighters been charged with a crime, or is this a civil suit?

So far just a civil suit. But that video displays some serious grave indifference to life. This story just broke recently so perhaps criminal charges can be added.

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So far just a civil suit. But that video displays some serious grave indifference to life. This story just broke recently so perhaps criminal charges can be added.

Are we watching the same video?

It was known 7 months ago that the girl had been killed by a fire truck, the only thing that broke recently was the law suit and the public campaign by the familys lawyer. The video itself would be well known by the fire dept(hence their apology last July) and the police, who have yet to lay any charges.

The greatest negligence is that of the fireman on foot, standing over her in the grass and shouting 'there is a body here'. He must have assumed she was dead and communciated that to the truck. Nobody checked after that.

Science too hard for you? Try religion!

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Are we watching the same video?

It was known 7 months ago that the girl had been killed by a fire truck, the only thing that broke recently was the law suit and the public campaign by the familys lawyer. The video itself would be well known by the fire dept(hence their apology last July) and the police, who have yet to lay any charges.

The greatest negligence is that of the fireman on foot, standing over her in the grass and shouting 'there is a body here'. He must have assumed she was dead and communciated that to the truck. Nobody checked after that.

From what I've heard, the excuse is that they couldn't see the "body" because of foam. Clearly they could see the "body" at some point and some idiotic dolts didn't see if the "body" was alive or not. That's grave indifference. If at some point the body was covered in foam and that resulted in her getting run over doesn't negate that someone if not multiple people were completely culpable in the death of the girl.

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Have any firefighters been charged with a crime, or is this a civil suit?

I don't know and it's not really relevant to my post. Shady's right that someone can commit a crime through negligence.

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