guyser Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 "Of which one is a horrible example of 74% literacy. Now what? " Where was that? India I used US UK and India as places that are functioning democracies with significant private education components,Oops , wrong again. Unless significant is 7% and 10% (UK and US respectively.) Now what? which cointradicts his assertion that democracy and private education are not compatible. They are, or can be. Those countries also have public systems in place, but not exclusivelyDemocracy has been around for quite some time, public schools for a lot less, but there is a co-relation of public education and the spread of democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted December 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 India Oops , wrong again. Unless significant is 7% and 10% (UK and US respectively.) Now what? Democracy has been around for quite some time, public schools for a lot less, but there is a co-relation of public education and the spread of democracy. Exactly what I said before my interesting thread was hijacked by trolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitops Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 This may interest you if you can comprehend it. The Ultimate Public School Advantage: DEMOCRACY! http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2011/04/08/the_ultimate_public_school_advantage_democracy.html You don't seem able to address the facts pointed out to you that there are nations with strong democracies with significant private education systems, and nations with universal and exclusive public education systems which are outright dictatorships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 socialist, "your" thread was not "hijacked by trolls," or by anyone. People have disagreements with you, that's all--and are in fact making some strong arguments, which you refuse to seriously address, for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 How about this argument? Are-private-schools-worth-it? Studying the National Assessment of Educational Progress and the Early Childhood Longitudinal Study, they have found that, when controlling for demographic factors, public schools are doing a better job academically than private schools. It seems that private school students have higher scores because they come from more affluent backgrounds, not because the schools they attend are better educational institutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Sure, but I wasn't arguing against public schools, nor for private ones. I was only responding to socialist's idea that disagreement constitutes trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted December 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Here is a video titled Canada's Flawed education System. http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/2976711787001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted January 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 An Alberta mother trying to change math education. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/a-mothers-petition-in-2014-lets-change-math-education/article16150193/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Here is a video titled Canada's Flawed education System. http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/2976711787001 Lorne Grunter and Brian Lielie?Please socialist ... Some support for your theory on democracy and public education. Benjamin Franklin: The foundation of democracy is an informed citizenry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) dp Edited January 2, 2014 by jacee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 True. A great American named John Dewey is often credited as the grandfather of public education in North America. A great man; a great American. And I don't think he would be to happy with it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 And I don't think he would be to happy with it now. Oh the irony ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) socialist, on 15 Dec 2013 - 7:45 PM, said: True. A great American named John Dewey is often credited as the grandfather of public education in North America. A great man; a great American. And I don't think he would be to happy with it now.I think John Dewey would like today's progressive methods, since those are his theories:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dewey Dewey continually argues that education and learning are social and interactive processes, and thus the school itself is a social institution through which social reform can and should take place. In addition, he believed that students thrive in an environment where they are allowed to experience and interact with the curriculum, and all students should have the opportunity to take part in their own learning. . Edited January 2, 2014 by jacee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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