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As BM pointed out - it's 3rd person. And which 'Liberal voters' are you vagueposting about here ?

I guess I should have said that Liberal supporters call Mr. Trudeau by his first name as if they know him...

And shouldn't have said "voters"...I should have said supporters...And I don't mean here at this place,I mean at other places like The Huffington Post and the Power & Politics facebook comment section...That's two places where I've seen it first hand...

You can always tell the Liberal folks because they defend Trudeau's lack of any public declaration of policy as "smart" and if anyone questions this that person gets pilloried for being angry and narrow minded...

At least that's been my experience...

"Neo-conservativism,I think,is really the aggrandizement of selfishness.It's about me,only me,and after that,me.It's about only investing in things that produce a huge profit for yourself.It's NOT about society as a whole and it tends to be very insensitive to those people,who for one reason or another,have fallen beneath the poverty line and it's engaged in presumptions that these people are all poor because they are lazy.Neo-conservatives believe that fundamentally..."

Senator Hugh Segal

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Right - but there's nothing much more to be said really. Can anybody really say 'no, they don't say that' ? And if we acknowledge that he has supporters that say that, it doesn't mean anything negative for Justin Trudeau does it ?

It's like people saying GW Bush's supporters are rednecks - why do we care either way ?

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The big problem with all of the political parties is they are afraid to focus on ending corruption, this is the main reason we are in the situation we are in now. Every day there is a new angle or a new case of corruption and Harper made sure of that when they removed all protection for legitimate whistle blowers. The Canadian Anti Corruption League will soon be a political party and we will run on the anti corruption platform as well as a well laid out social and job platform. www.canadiananticorruptionleague.org. also see us on facebook and give a like if you can. As Canadians we do not process our natural resources into the finished product and this is a big loss for our economy. This corrupt government and several previously have sign away a lot of our Canadian identity as well as sold us down the creek favouring huge industry instead of Canada.. It has to stop. Canadians did not ratify these corrupt treaties and as such they are not binding. Let them sue Harper and Martin Canada first I say..

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What was the Red Book?

OMG You don't even know what the red book was? Another youngster that has no idea what is going on around him. LMFAO

Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.

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1. The big problem with all of the political parties is they are afraid to focus on ending corruption, this is the main reason we are in the situation we are in now.

2. As Canadians we do not process our natural resources into the finished product and this is a big loss for our economy.

3. This corrupt government and several previously have sign away a lot of our Canadian identity as well as sold us down the creek favouring huge industry instead of Canada..

4. Canadians did not ratify these corrupt treaties and as such they are not binding.

1. You need to be specific. It sounds like you're just talking about trade here, which is a stretch to equate with 'corruption'.

2. If another area can do it cheaper, then there is an economic advantage there - that's how global trade works.

3. Our identity is more complex than just being tree cutters - or it should be.

4. I think it would be better if governments ratified trade deals with the country, as Mulroney did when we had an election over trade, however the general lack of understanding of trade makes it hard to have a discussion about that topic.

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But it is enough for a lot of voters. Many who have never voted will make an effort to vote Liberal because of Trudeau. When he admitted to smoking marijuana many people were seeing Trudeau as a regular, ordinary citizen. That's what I personally like about him. He's down to earth and easy to relate to.

Easy to relate to, So does that make you a rich kid that has never had to work or want for anything??? Edited by PIK

Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.

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....I've always hated this approach to determining how good or bad a leader is.

And so it goes with Trudeau. I don't care if he's "likeable on a personal level." And if that can get him elected...well then, perfect. Awesome. Just what Canada deserves.

I was with you till the last line. Are you saying that you are okay with him being elected based on his superficial "likeability", or are you saying that electing such a vacuous individual based on likeability would deservingly result in a leader who's positions and actions would be correspondingly vacuous

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We all know the red book was written by Paul Martin and is now used as a template for the Flaherty budgets.

Maybe so , but it was not the red bood that was the problem, they threw it out the minute they annouced it, that was the problem.

Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.

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Spiderfish

Are you saying that you are okay with him being elected based on his superficial "likeability"

No, not at all.

“There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver."

--Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007

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