bleeding heart Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Seeing that Derek isn't here to defend your accusations that he advocates rape, you should allow him to now respond. No? As for me surrendering to you...you know better. It's not my accusation, but a reiteration of his own stance. Certainly no one's disallowing him to respond. As for "surrender"---well, see it how you like. I enjoy these discussions, but I genuinely don't worry about what you think. Edited October 23, 2013 by bleeding heart “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
bud Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 As for me surrendering to you...you know better. it's well known here by the "folks" that you're quite stubborn when it comes to surrendering to the facts and the truth. http://whoprofits.org/
Guest American Woman Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 zionism is not a country. zionism is an ideology that should be rejected in my opinion. i feel the same way about wahabism which i believe should be rejected. that doesn't mean that i advocate for dismantling saudi arabia. i have never once said that israel should be dismantled. Again. He didn't say you did. He said you thought the JEWISH STATE should be dismantled. In that light,you didn't answer my question, so I'll ask again. It's not a difficult question. Do you support Israel as a Jewish state?
DogOnPorch Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 It's not my accusation, but a reiteration of his own stance. Certainly no one's disallowing him to respond. Then we'll leave it here until he arrives. Again. He didn't say you did. He said you thought the JEWISH STATE should be dismantled. In that light,you didn't answer my question, so I'll ask again. It's not a difficult question. Do you support Israel as a Jewish state? Yup...and one trip to CJPME's website clearly shows an agenda. But, it is typical that bud would like to wave around yet another banning attempt as a stick to prevent this agenda from surfacing fully. I think I started a thread about such things...that was closed...lol. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 What's a legitimate tool of war? Censorship.
DogOnPorch Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 Censorship. OK...how? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bud Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 Again. He didn't say you did. He said you thought the JEWISH STATE should be dismantled. In that light,you didn't answer my question, so I'll ask again. It's not a difficult question. Do you support Israel as a Jewish state? accepting it as a "jewish state" is not a requirement to accept the state of israel. i find the question to be stupid. http://whoprofits.org/
DogOnPorch Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 accepting it as a "jewish state" is not a requirement to accept the state of israel. i find the question to be stupid. Thanks for confirming your agenda. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest American Woman Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 accepting it as a "jewish state" is not a requirement to accept the state of israel. i find the question to be stupid. And I find your response to be quite telling - as you make false accusations about what DoP said.
GostHacked Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 OK...how? Telling other posters that they cannot reply or else they are grouped in with the rest of the people you consider bad. If a poster agrees with a point another made, it's not to be taken that they support that other poster's position/opinion on everything else. Censorship is used all the time in the mainstream media. It happens all over the place. Changing the language is also an attempt at censorship.
DogOnPorch Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 Telling other posters that they cannot reply or else they are grouped in with the rest of the people you consider bad. If a poster agrees with a point another made, it's not to be taken that they support that other poster's position/opinion on everything else. Censorship is used all the time in the mainstream media. It happens all over the place. Changing the language is also an attempt at censorship. Bleeding was responding to a post I directed at bud. He deserves what he gets. It's not censorship, btw. I do not have those kind of super powers Jimmy Olsen. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bud Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) And I find your response to be quite telling - as you make false accusations about what DoP said. when DOP says "jewish state", he means israel. when he says i want to dismantle the jewish state in any way possible, then he means that i want to dismantle the state of israel. i don't. he is wrong and he keeps repeating that this is my position. therefore, he has been reported for misrepresenting me and trying to defame me. Edited October 23, 2013 by bud http://whoprofits.org/
bud Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 Thanks for confirming your agenda. what is my agenda? don't press reply just for the sake of pretending that you still have a point. make your point instead of posting vague and incoherent phrases. do you agree or disagree that it's not a requirement by law to accept israel as a jewish state? http://whoprofits.org/
DogOnPorch Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 what is my agenda? don't press reply just for the sake of pretending that you still have a point. make your point instead of posting vague and incoherent phrases. do you agree or disagree that it's not a requirement by law to accept israel as a jewish state? Whose law? So-called international law? This would be the same law that rewarded North Viet-Nam for invading three countries well after the Six Day War. Your group's agenda is to portray Israel as a racist, apartheid state with no legal basis for existence. Period. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bleeding heart Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 Bleeding was responding to a post I directed at bud. He deserves what he gets. A terrifying punishment to come, no doubt. Or am I remiss in "intruding" upon remarks meant for GostHacked? “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
DogOnPorch Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 A terrifying punishment to come, no doubt. Or am I remiss in "intruding" upon remarks meant for GostHacked? I've already PM'd Derek about your claim that he advocates rape. He can deal with you. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bleeding heart Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 I've already PM'd Derek about your claim that he advocates rape. He can deal with you. Awesome. But again, it's not my claim, but reportage. “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
DogOnPorch Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 Awesome. But again, it's not my claim, but reportage. That's great that you know how to use the report button. You're in fine company...bud for example. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bud Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 Whose law? So-called international law? This would be the same law that rewarded North Viet-Nam for invading three countries well after the Six Day War. Your group's agenda is to portray Israel as a racist, apartheid state with no legal basis for existence. Period. you have something against international law? the very same law that allowed the state of israel to be formed? why do you advocate violating international law all the time? my group's agenda is not what you just said. you have a bad habit of running your mouth and spreading misinformation. this is a very irresponsible behaviour. you may want to check CJPME.org's mission and beliefs so that you don't continuously repeat mistakes and misrepresent where they stand. tell me if you disagree with any of CJPME's beliefs and values: OUR BELIEFS CJPME evaluates the circumstances and events in the Middle East according to three beliefs: The belief that all positions should respect international law The belief that all parties in a conflict must be held to the same standard The belief that violence is not a solution http://whoprofits.org/
bleeding heart Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 That's great that you know how to use the report button. You're in fine company...bud for example. I've never used the report button. Try again. “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
DogOnPorch Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 you have something against international law? the very same law that allowed the state of israel to be formed? why do you advocate violating international law all the time? Israel wasn't formed by international law. It was already a fact on the ground. What the UN did was vote on its recognition. What the Arabs did is attack the new state...and lost. Too bad for your side. As history shows us, as well, Israel accepted the partition while your people rejected it. As for me respecting international law...it is a joke otherwise there would still be a country called South Viet-Nam. The UN rewarded North Viet-Nam for its invasion of three countries to attain its goals by admitting it to the UN without any conditions re: refugees and murdered South Vietnamese. This was AFTER the Six Day War. So here's the big middle finger to your precious law. As for your "anti-Zionist" organization, the CJPME, it has a clear negative agenda of trying to turn history around. Your Palestinian Cause remains the pipe dream of a despised Nazi whose hatred of Jews was only approached by his contempt for Hashemites. It should be flushed like the turd it is and the so-called Palestinians handed over to the aggressors of 1948 for citizenship purposes. The Grand Mufti making new friends in Germany. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bud Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 Israel wasn't formed by international law. It was already a fact on the ground. What the UN did was vote on its recognition. without the UN vote, israel would not have formed. another simple fact you're having a tough time grasping. back to the accusations that you have so far failed to deal with: my group's agenda is not what you just said. you have a bad habit of running your mouth and spreading misinformation. this is a very irresponsible behaviour. you may want to check CJPME.org's mission and beliefs so that you don't continuously repeat mistakes and misrepresent where they stand. tell me if you disagree with any of CJPME's beliefs and values: OUR BELIEFS CJPME evaluates the circumstances and events in the Middle East according to three beliefs: The belief that all positions should respect international law The belief that all parties in a conflict must be held to the same standard The belief that violence is not a solution http://whoprofits.org/
DogOnPorch Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 So Canada needed UN approval? Neat! Can you post a link to said UN vote? No? Gee...I wonder WHY? Man you guys at CJPME really live in a la-la land....don't you? What's more amusing is that you think if you repeat something enough it will become the truth. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jacee Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 Your group's agenda is to portray Israel as a racist, apartheid state with no legal basis for existence. Period. Non-sequiter.Nobody debates the legality of the State of Israel.
DogOnPorch Posted October 24, 2013 Report Posted October 24, 2013 Non-sequiter. Nobody debates the legality of the State of Israel. CJPME certainly does. Its idea of "justice" is for Israel to hand itself over to the very enemies that attacked it via the ludicrous right of return fantasy they all have. When not calling Israel an apartheid state or bullying other Canadians to boycott Israel, that is. A pretty high and mighty lot, they seek to be the "go to" people for the media...just like CAIR...for all things involving the Zionist Entity. I can only imagine why the feel MLW needs several of them to patrol it for Zionist activity. But, over the years, several have been trough here. I'm sure bud and HJ won't be the last. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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