On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 How many God's do you reckon there are? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 Oh I'm not trying to change America. That's up to you guys. We've pretty much done it here. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 How many God's do you reckon there are? As many as people want or need.....I don't believe in God per se, but that doesn't mean other people or their elected representatives can't or shouldn't. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 Oh I'm not trying to change America. That's up to you guys. We've pretty much done it here. No, God is alive and well in Canada and Canadian government. Much more work to do if that be your goal. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 God is definitely alive up here, but mostly in the church and perhaps in people's private homes, which is fine, but not so much in the government. Michelle Bachman would be laughed and booed out of the hall up here. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) God is definitely alive up here, but mostly in the church and perhaps in people's private homes, which is fine, but not so much in the government. Michelle Bachman would be laughed and booed out of the hall up here. If you say so, but it's hard to ignore the fact that Canada's Head of State is also the Supreme Governor of the Anglican Church. Rep. Michele Bachmann will never reach that level of religious complicity. Green Party leader Elizabeth May is also an ordained Anglican minister, no ? Edited November 3, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 If you say so, but it's hard to ignore the fact that Canada's Head of State is also the Supreme Governor of the Anglican Church. Rep. Michele Bachmann will never reach that level of religious complicity. Green Party leader Elizabeth May is also an ordained Anglican minister, no ? I'll say again, Canadians are pretty much live and let live with regard to religion. We have a myriad of them here. Yes indeed the Governor General has that affilliation, has had forever, and Elizabeth May I have no idea about her religion. I can guarantee you this, I've heard neither of them pontificate. It's just not cool in Canada. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 I'll say again, Canadians are pretty much live and let live with regard to religion. We have a myriad of them here. Yes indeed the Governor General has that affilliation, has had forever, and Elizabeth May I have no idea about her religion. I can guarantee you this, I've heard neither of them pontificate. It's just not cool in Canada. Pontificate or not, it strains credulity when religion based criticism for Rep. Bachmann comes from nationals with a Head of State (not Governer General) whom is the "Supreme Governor" of a major "God Club". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 Well here's one thing, we gave up killing people with a noose 51 years ago because we realized how sick that "eye for an eye" bs is. Apparently you guys still like to wallow in it. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 Well here's one thing, we gave up killing people with a noose 51 years ago because we realized how sick that "eye for an eye" bs is. Apparently you guys still like to wallow in it. No, capital punishment remained on the books in Canada until 1998 (special military offenses and treason). So God had you "walowing in it" far more recent than 51 years ago. God is alive and well in Canada, including its government. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 Last hanging in Canada was in 1962. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 You're killin' em left right and center in Florida and Texas. And DNA has indicated just how likely it is a number where innocent. There's the reputation the "eye for an eye" gets you. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) You're killin' em left right and center in Florida and Texas. And DNA has indicated just how likely it is a number where innocent. There's the reputation the "eye for an eye" gets you. It's the law of the land....long before Rep. Bachmann came along. Has nothing to do with "God". Edited November 3, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) It's the law of the land....long before Rep. Bachmann came along. Has nothing to do with "God". Well it used to be the law of the land here as well. But we woke up. You won't get there with her. Edited November 3, 2013 by On Guard for Thee Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) Well it used to be the law of the land here as well. But we woke up. You won't bet there with her. Bachmann didn't kill the latest Canadian to die from a taser. He will never wake up. Is this now a capital punishment thread ? Edited November 3, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 Don't you think there is a difference between a cop using a taser and a government using a lethal injection? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 Not to the dearly departed.....what does any of this have to do with Rep. Bachmann ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 No it's not. Carry on promoting Michelle. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 God is definitely alive up here, but mostly in the church and perhaps in people's private homes, which is fine, but not so much in the government. Michelle Bachman would be laughed and booed out of the hall up here. You can't even have a Catholic head of state. But yeah, "mostly in the church." Stockwell Day wasn't laughed and booed out. And here's the thing - politicians act on what they believe. If they believe what they do but are forced to "tone down talk of their beliefs," their beliefs are still going to play into their decisions. I've pointed out before that Harper campaigned on "real Canadian values," ie: against gay marriage. "God bless Canada." Quote. I'll say again that I would rather politicians not be too intimidated to talk about their beliefs so I know what's what. If Canada has managed anything, IMO, it's simply to shut people up regarding their beliefs. I don't see that as accomplishing anything. Quote
Argus Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 What standards? Your standards ? The question is meaningless in the context of this thread. Nonsense. I specifically said by American mainstream standards, and by western democtatic standards. Surely you read this... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 Why ? The U.S. population is much larger and more diverse than Canada's and many other nations. The Tea Party caucus seized upon her notoriety and leadership. And Rep. Bachmann kept getting re-elected. I don't think the US population is any more diverse than Canada's, and the query was why are so many people so radicallized as to want to vote for people like this. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 If you only wish to read others parrot back your own views, then ignore is certainly the best bet. I probably know more about Rep. Bachmann than all of the haters here combined, as I live in the next MN district. Probably been to her speeches, jumping up and down and whistling and applauding with wide adoring eyes too... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 Not sure how you can do that from Canada if it involves U.S. federal, state, or local legislation. Rep. Bachmann is quite "mainstream" in traditional American practices for prayer, invocations, faith based initiatives, community programs, etc. I'm not sure you actually know what mainstream is any more. The majority of Americans don't even attend church any more. Of those who do, very few are of the evangelical strain like Bachman. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) Pontificate or not, it strains credulity when religion based criticism for Rep. Bachmann comes from nationals with a Head of State (not Governer General) whom is the "Supreme Governor" of a major "God Club". The criticisms of Bachman have little to do with her religion. Harper is a very religious man, so was Preston Manning, but they didn't find it neceessary to wrap themselves in bible quotes, and their positions weren't nearly as filled with venom and paranoid delusions. Manning came across as genial and good humored. Bachman presents herself as shrill and full of hate and fear. Edited November 3, 2013 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Posted November 3, 2013 Nonsense. I specifically said by American mainstream standards, and by western democtatic standards. Surely you read this... Again, this is meaningless. Rep. Bachmann is a "right wing conservative" and "evangelical", terms that are well defined on the continuum of American politics. There is no such thing as "western democtatic standards". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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