Peter F Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Pakistan was under military occupation by Al Queda? Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
eyeball Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Are you suggesting Bin Laden wasn't in charge of anything? I guess there was the time he was our client back in the day but...you know. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Pakistan was under military occupation by Al Queda? Seeing Bin Laden had an estate there... Are you suggesting Bin Laden wasn't in charge of anything? I guess there was the time he was our client back in the day but...you know. Don't really care. He was fair game...as was Rommel...as was Heydrich. That you want to play nice with them is of no consequence. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 It's that certain governments would rather not have to deal with due process' that has consequences. That you simply want to play the goof or don't care is what doesn't matter. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jbg Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Chomsky argues that "The United States is a rogue state. It doesn’t pay any attention to international law". He also talks about Israel. See video and transcript. Summary of his arguments (all quotes by Chomsky): -"A "rogue state" is a state that defies international laws and conventions, does not consider itself bound by the major treaties and conventions, World Court decisions -- in fact, anything except the interests of its own leadership, the forces around the leadership that dominate policy." ********************* So, do you think the US is a "rogue state"? What about Israel? The shoes certainly fit, but the US should be reclassified as a super-rogue.Oh boy. Only in the perverted since of Orwell's "Ministry of Truth" are Western countries rogue states. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
DogOnPorch Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 It's that certain governments would rather not have to deal with due process' that has consequences. That you simply want to play the goof or don't care is what doesn't matter. Name calling is frowned upon here a MLW. It's well within my rights to not give a flying fark what you happen to think is right and what is wrong. Due process is reserved for citizens of my country and perhaps my allies. Not my sworn enemies. That you feel they are hard-done-by is of zero consequence. When global war breaks out, fence sitting will be a luxury known only to the dead. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
cybercoma Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 How do you feel about other states using your shoot first and ask questions later diplomacy, DOP? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 How do you feel about other states using your shoot first and ask questions later diplomacy, DOP? They already do. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Oh boy. Only in the perverted since of Orwell's "Ministry of Truth" are Western countries rogue states. I think some long for the day when Western Civilization falls...the root of all that is evil on this planet. They'll be immune to the fall...of course. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Only in the what, the minds of the perverted? What's really perverted is enabling and ennobling diddlers in action, especially super-diddlers. It's not my fault you can't call a spade a spade. And that's what Orwell was ridiculing and satirizing, the inability of a monstrous monopolizing government to be honest about what it was and what it was doing and why. Chomsky can't buy the story that western countries are always the innocent victims either. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Name calling is frowned upon here a MLW. So is trolling with crap that has nothing to do with the thread. It's well within my rights to not give a flying fark what you happen to think is right and what is wrong. Due process is reserved for citizens of my country and perhaps my allies. Not my sworn enemies. That you feel they are hard-done-by is of zero consequence. When global war breaks out, fence sitting will be a luxury known only to the dead. I suspect when global war breaks out you'll be making popcorn. Due process is reserved for every human being on the planet bar none, it doesn't matter a flying fark what you think about that. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 They already do. Look at the example they have to follow, I mean if its good enough and alright for a Shining Beacon to do it, who's to argue otherwise? You don't figure America is a leader? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 So is trolling with crap that has nothing to do with the thread. I suspect when global war breaks out you'll be making popcorn. Due process is reserved for every human being on the planet bar none, it doesn't matter a flying fark what you think about that. You live in a fantasy world. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Look at the example they have to follow, I mean if its good enough and alright for a Shining Beacon to do it, who's to argue otherwise? You don't figure America is a leader? Your hatred of America is well documented here at MLW. So why should I care that you have a poor opinion of them? It's not like you've ever had a good opinion of them and they suddenly (gasp) fell from your divine grace. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 I think some long for the day when Western Civilization falls...the root of all that is evil on this planet. They'll be immune to the fall...of course. Nah, we'll just do our best to rise above it. Good always triumphs over evil and bad guys never prosper...not forever at least. History is on our side, in theory at least. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Nah, we'll just do our best to rise above it. Good always triumphs over evil and bad guys never prosper...not forever at least. History is on our side, in theory at least. Yes, yes...America EVIL...eyeball GOOD! Not to worry, the Red Chinese will soon be calling the shots for you at this rate. Eyeball paradise. No 'diddlers' or 'rogues' in that mix. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Your hatred of America is well documented here at MLW. So why should I care that you have a poor opinion of them? It's not like you've ever had a good opinion of them and they suddenly (gasp) fell from your divine grace. It's not hatred, but it's even worse - it's disbelief. Like atheism, there's next to zero tolerance for it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 It's not hatred, but it's even worse - it's disbelief. Like atheism, there's next to zero tolerance for it. Translates to the same. As mentioned, you could soon get your wish of an America gone to the trash-heap of history. Good times. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
cybercoma Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 They already do. Of course they do, but how do you feel about it? Quote
eyeball Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Yes, yes...America EVIL...eyeball GOOD! Whatever you say. Not to worry, the Red Chinese will soon be calling the shots for you at this rate. Eyeball paradise. No 'diddlers' or 'rogues' in that mix. Could be alright, they seem to enjoy the same sort of co-dominion rights as our other BFF's on the UNSC and I notice our leader can't fall over himself fast enough to sell out our country's resources to them. You sure pick the strangest examples to make your point. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Translates to the same. As mentioned, you could soon get your wish of an America gone to the trash-heap of history. Good times. Pass the popcorn! Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jbg Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 How about an international body that assigns super-rogues to security councils? Thanks for nothing.Well why doesn't the non-aligned counsel or whatever it is form its own "security counsel"? And pay for it. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
guyser Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 It's well within my rights to not give a flying fark what you happen to think is right and what is wrong. Due process is reserved for citizens of my country and perhaps my allies. Not my sworn enemies. Anyone, sworn enemy or not, on CDN soil is granted due process. No matter the crime or allegation of same. Quote
eyeball Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Well why doesn't the non-aligned counsel or whatever it is form its own "security counsel"? And pay for it. Maybe someone indicated they'd be bombed back into the stone age of they did. You know, you're either with us or... Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Anyone, sworn enemy or not, on CDN soil is granted due process. No matter the crime or allegation of same. That would actually be anyone everyone in fact on the planet, not just Canada. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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