August1991 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Posted September 21, 2013 (edited) 1. I understand the wedge issue idea to win the next election. Maybe it will work.1a. Montreal is not Quebec.2. I think also that the cabinet was thinking longer term: how to protect Quebec.3. I also understand the Lisee subtext of this issue. WTF?------But I have a broader question. When Michele Lalonde used this phrase, she spoke to a small minority about a powerful majority on a continent.So, what is the best way to protect/integrate a minority faced with a broader whole? Edited September 21, 2013 by August1991 Quote
The_Squid Posted September 21, 2013 Report Posted September 21, 2013 Maybe if you linked to English sources you might have a more robust response. Quote
The_Squid Posted September 21, 2013 Report Posted September 21, 2013 Actually, even with the link in English, your post is pretty much nonsense. Quote
jbg Posted September 21, 2013 Report Posted September 21, 2013 Actually, even with the link in English, your post is pretty much nonsense.August may be alot of things but not "nonsense" even though he tried to get me banned once. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
kimmy Posted September 21, 2013 Report Posted September 21, 2013 Ok, I think I have a handle on what is meant by "Speak White", but what did Pauline Marois actually do that prompted this thread? -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
waldo Posted September 21, 2013 Report Posted September 21, 2013 Ok, I think I have a handle on what is meant by "Speak White", but what did Pauline Marois actually do that prompted this thread? -k it's a strange somewhat twisted analogy that requires a very long reach to even attempt to apply it... between the pejorative intended 'Speak White' linguistic suppression and the Quebec Charter of Values intended to stifle public sector employees visual display of their religious conviction. Quote
kimmy Posted September 21, 2013 Report Posted September 21, 2013 ah thanks, I get it now. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
August1991 Posted September 28, 2013 Author Report Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) it's a strange somewhat twisted analogy that requires a very long reach to even attempt to apply it... between the pejorative intended 'Speak White' linguistic suppression and the Quebec Charter of Values intended to stifle public sector employees visual display of their religious conviction. Peter the Great imposed a tax on beards. In the 17th century, he wanted to "modernise" Russia and he chose to impose a cost on supposedly "old-thinking". The PQ and Pauline Marois are doing something of the same. They are imposing a cost on women who choose to wear a headscarf. But if a Muslim woman is forced to stop wearing a head scarf, does this mean that she's "modern"? "Integrated"? And what of Muslim men? ----- Several years ago, BlackDog (ever the progressive leftist) posted that traditional Muslims will eventually integrate into Western enlightened society as all other immigrants have. But will they? Kate at SmallDeadAnimals described this PQ initiative as "Push Back". ----- IMV, making Quebec Anglophones speak French is one thing; making religious Muslims speak Enlightened Western is something else. And protecting a small minority by restricting a larger majority is one thing; but restricting a small minority is petty, and wasted effort. Edited September 28, 2013 by August1991 Quote
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