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Hypocrisy is wanting a two state solution when all your actions say otherwise.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/31/22121098-israel-frees-palestinian-prisoners-pledges-to-expand-settlements?lite

Release prisoners, expand settlements.

I agree...the Arabs simply are not interested in a two state solution.

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I agree...the Arabs simply are not interested in a two state solution.

Nice try Dog. Always a valiant attempt at shuffling the discussion away from the talking point.

Who is expanding the settlements again? The settlements are a big road block in the road to a two state solution. This is sanctioned by the Israeli government under Netanyahu but seems to be a long standing Israeli policy towards the occupied territories. Even though some in the Israeli judicial system and other government members are trying to block the expansion of the settlements.

Care to give us your opinion on the illegal settlements?

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Nice try Dog. Always a valiant attempt at shuffling the discussion away from the talking point.

Who is expanding the settlements again? The settlements are a big road block in the road to a two state solution. This is sanctioned by the Israeli government under Netanyahu but seems to be a long standing Israeli policy towards the occupied territories. Even though some in the Israeli judicial system and other government members are trying to block the expansion of the settlements.

Care to give us your opinion on the illegal settlements?

The Pallys do not want a two state solution. They want a one state solution. No wonder the Israelis care not. Nor will they care about what you think about 'fairness' and all that feel good stuff. The fact remains Israel faces three (at minimum) terrorist groups...Fatah, Hamas and Hezbollah. All have vowed Israel's destruction.

A current Fatah map of the one state solution.

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Being nasty and divisive isn't helpful.

I'm here to make sure history isn't too twisted-up when discussing this and other conflicts. The Arabs started this mess...they just didn't manage that 2nd Holocaust as they had planned. The Israelis proved to be far better at soldiering than their fanatical Arab counterparts.

Questions for you, jacee. Why do we give a moment of consideration to terrorist groups? Why do you support them over Israel?

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The Pallys do not want a two state solution. They want a one state solution. No wonder the Israelis care not.

Not true. Palestine already sought state status from the UN to push that solution forward.

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Not true. Palestine already sought state status from the UN to push that solution forward.

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You seem to be of the opinion that the Arabs are sincere about their little West Bank state and giving it to them would ring the bells of peace. That's sweet. But, apparently, history is not your friend. The Arabs have had way more than that offered to them in the past and they've gone to war trying to get the entire pie rather than just a piece. Their maps and their own rhetoric does not lie...but they are quite willing to lie to you and I.

We plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion. We Palestinians will take over everything, including all of Jerusalem.

--- Yasser Arafat

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Even our staunch Zionist Rue admits that the settlements are not helping the peace process. That's quite significant. What say you Dog? Any opinion on the illegal settlements?

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Yeah...they're not illegal anymore than Ho Chi Minh City is. Or your city for that matter.

Your opinion is they are not illegal 'anymore'. Then they were illegal in your view at one point. Why were they illegal in your view at one point?

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Questions for you, jacee. Why do we give a moment of consideration to terrorist groups? Why do you support them over Israel?

Why do people choose one side over another and accuse others of the same?

That kind of baiting and divisiveness is not part of a dialogue seeking solutions.

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Why do people choose one side over another and accuse others of the same?

That kind of baiting and divisiveness is not part of a dialogue seeking solutions.

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Fine. But do remember who you're allied with. The Palestinian Cause was born as anti-Semitism and progressed to siding with the Nazis and then terrorism. I guess you are just too young to remember Munich, etc.

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The Arabs have had way more than that offered to them in the past and they've gone to war trying to get the entire pie rather than just a piece.

The past is past. Move forward.

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Tell that to the Arabs...lol.

They have. They took the iniative of requesting state status at the UN, clearly signalling willingness for a two state solution.

Go with that.

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