Tolerant Left and Crazy Right Origins

[socialist]

Lately I've been studying and comparing the French and American Revolutions and trying to apply what happened there with what we are seeing now. in American politics. I don't have tim to go into a lot of detail here. Basically, today's left, through peaceful protests and carin for all and being champions of equality get their origin from the French Revolution which was a revolution against Royal tyranny. Robespierre and St. Just among others were fightin for eqaulity.

The American Revolution hell bent on making some people better than others has spawned today's far right tea partier, intolerant nonsense. It's quite interesting when you compare the two in depth and see the connections to today's rabid right wing /tea party movement.

[jacee]

Lately I've been studying and comparing the French and American Revolutions and trying to apply what happened there with what we are seeing now. in American politics. I don't have tim to go into a lot of detail here. Basically, today's left, through peaceful protests and carin for all and being champions of equality get their origin from the French Revolution which was a revolution against Royal tyranny. Robespierre and St. Just among others were fightin for eqaulity.

The American Revolution hell bent on making some people better than others

Hunh? I have to call you on that Socialist.

It was a revolution against Royal tyranny.

[Pliny]

Lately I've been studying and comparing the French and American Revolutions and trying to apply what happened there with what we are seeing now. in American politics. I don't have tim to go into a lot of detail here. Basically, today's left, through peaceful protests and carin for all and being champions of equality get their origin from the French Revolution which was a revolution against Royal tyranny. Robespierre and St. Just among others were fightin for eqaulity.

The American Revolution hell bent on making some people better than others has spawned today's far right tea partier, intolerant nonsense. It's quite interesting when you compare the two in depth and see the connections to today's rabid right wing /tea party movement.

Well, have you read anything of the assignat? Probably produced a little discontent.

[cybercoma]

Lately I've been studying and comparing the French and American Revolutions and trying to apply what happened there with what we are seeing now. in American politics. I don't have tim to go into a lot of detail here. Basically, today's left, through peaceful protests and carin for all and being champions of equality get their origin from the French Revolution which was a revolution against Royal tyranny. Robespierre and St. Just among others were fightin for eqaulity.

The American Revolution hell bent on making some people better than others has spawned today's far right tea partier, intolerant nonsense. It's quite interesting when you compare the two in depth and see the connections to today's rabid right wing /tea party movement.

What are you talking about? The American Revolution was very likely inspired by the French Revolution. The idea of establishing an American republic probably came from the French establishing a republic in 1792, not to mention that the philosophies behind the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution came nearly verbatim from French philosophers. The American Revolution had nothing to do with making people better than others. Its motivations were mostly, but not entirely, rooted in the problem of the motherland taxing the colonies and providing nothing in return: taxation without representation. It would be like us having a government that wasn't elected by us, but still took taxes from us, providing absolutely nothing in back in exchange for those taxes. I don't see how that's about making some people better than others. It's about having a voice in government through elected representatives.

I'm glad you're a gimmick because I can't for the life of me imagine you teaching our children.

Edited April 25, 2013 by cybercoma

[eyeball]

I don't see how that's about making some people better than others. It's about having a voice in government through elected representatives.

That's how it might have been then but we've pretty much come full circle and now Royal Tyranny has been replaced with Corporate Tyranny, the government is busier representing and making corporations better than real human beings who are generally way to tolerant of it.

I'm glad you're a gimmick because I can't for the life of me imagine you teaching our children.

I can't argue with that. I don't know about the origins of left and right but I do think the realization there is a more important and dynamic axis to be considered - that on which the governed and government exist - is becoming more apparent at least I'd like to hope so. The funny thing is how left and right usually talks past each other when it comes to this slippery aspect of things - as if each is convinced the other is hell bent on governing the living crap out of them should they ever get into power. I suspect running around in circles makes us all more vulnerable to governing.

[Bonam]

What are you talking about? The American Revolution was very likely inspired by the French Revolution. The idea of establishing an American republic probably came from the French establishing a republic in 1792, not to mention that the philosophies behind the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution came nearly verbatim from French philosophers. The American Revolution had nothing to do with making people better than others. Its motivations were mostly, but not entirely, rooted in the problem of the motherland taxing the colonies and providing nothing in return: taxation without representation. It would be like us having a government that wasn't elected by us, but still took taxes from us, providing absolutely nothing in back in exchange for those taxes. I don't see how that's about making some people better than others. It's about having a voice in government through elected representatives.

Don't feed the troll.

[cybercoma]

Don't feed the troll.

Thanks for the reminder.

[socialist]

What are you talking about? The American Revolution was very likely inspired by the French Revolution. The idea of establishing an American republic probably came from the French establishing a republic in 1792, not to mention that the philosophies behind the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution came nearly verbatim from French philosophers. The American Revolution had nothing to do with making people better than others. Its motivations were mostly, but not entirely, rooted in the problem of the motherland taxing the colonies and providing nothing in return: taxation without representation. It would be like us having a government that wasn't elected by us, but still took taxes from us, providing absolutely nothing in back in exchange for those taxes. I don't see how that's about making some people better than others. It's about having a voice in government through elected representatives.

I'm glad you're a gimmick because I can't for the life of me imagine you teaching our children.

I see you know ABSOLUTEY nothing about the French Revolution, so you rely on petty attacks. Brush up on your history before posting nonsense.

[GostHacked]

I see you know ABSOLUTEY nothing about the French Revolution, so you rely on petty attacks. Brush up on your history before posting nonsense.

I don't think it's a personal attack when you have stated as much about yourself regarding the teaching thread.