socialist Posted February 20, 2013 Report Posted February 20, 2013 the rewarding part of being a teacher is that fact that we as a whole do the most to promote democracy and social justice. as we know democratic rights in canada are slowly being eroded and because of dangerous bills such as c 377. the canadian teachers federation along with provincial teacher associations are promotin teachers to engage their students to awaken to what is happening in this country. this is called HEAR MY VOICE. i want to get these posters in every canadian classroom as it is important for the future of this country. we all need to do our part and once again public school teachers and their unions are leading the way. we don't mind if people ride our coat tails on this important initiative. wake up people. it statrs with us. download the poster provided on the site and pin it up all over your community. let's make canada better. let's save democracy!!! http://vox.ctf-fce.ca/default.aspx?lang=EN&set=1 Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Peanutbutter Posted February 20, 2013 Report Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) This is hard to read without capitalized letters and proper punctuation. I thought the role of a teacher was to prepare children to think for themselves and make their own decisions. Instead you suggest that your role as a teacher will be to indoctrinate them to your particular political philosophy. Edited February 20, 2013 by Peanutbutter Quote Ah la peanut butter sandwiches! - The Amazing Mumferd
Muddy Posted February 20, 2013 Report Posted February 20, 2013 This is hard to read without capitalized letters and proper punctuation. I thought the role of a teacher was to prepare children to think for themselves and make their own decisions. Instead you suggest that your role as a teacher will be to indoctrinate them to your particular political philosophy. .My big problem is that socialist is a product of the system ! Egad ! I really have to wonder if he is what he portrays himself ? I mean he sounds like something that the extreme right would manufacture as a caricature of a left winger,never mind a teacher. I looked at the poster . Who did that for them ,a grade 5 class ? Soon as I saw a connection to rabble I just could not go any further. LOL Quote
guyser Posted February 20, 2013 Report Posted February 20, 2013 Teachers really should learn English before posting how great they are , or he is. Socialist wants to think he will be a teacher, but the posts pretty much prove he/she wont be. Quote
Mighty AC Posted February 20, 2013 Report Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) Socialist are you serious? The role of education should be to create creative, problem identifying, critical thinking, information savvy, life long self learners. The role of the teacher is to facilitate this outcome which means they are required to wear many hats simultaneously. Teachers are educators, counselors, disciplinarians, supporters, coaches, etc. Teachers are human so a hidden curriculum of bias will creep in to lessons on occasion but it should obviously be avoided. If your motivation to teach stems from the desire to impose your political views on our youth then it's time to choose a new career path. Edited February 20, 2013 by Mighty AC Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
socialist Posted February 20, 2013 Author Report Posted February 20, 2013 Hear My Voice is about human rights and democracy. It bothers me that some of you don't think the public school system plays an im portant role in educating learners about these important topics. Mighty AC, I listen with great interest when the CTF and other teacher unions bring important topics to the forefront. Youu seen to think that it should be your way or the highway. Tat scares me, and that is why we need to continue to push for social justice in our schools. There are too many ignorant people out there. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Moonlight Graham Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 socialist, just wondering, what grade levels are you planning on teaching? how much social justice do they teach in elementary grades k - 6? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Muddy Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 Hear My Voice is about human rights and democracy. It bothers me that some of you don't think the public school system plays an im portant role in educating learners about these important topics. Mighty AC, I listen with great interest when the CTF and other teacher unions bring important topics to the forefront. Youu seen to think that it should be your way or the highway. Tat scares me, and that is why we need to continue to push for social justice in our schools. There are too many ignorant people out there. You poor soul ! I really am getting concerned about you Lad ! The schools are not a brainwashing institutions for you to tinker with. We parents are quite capable, mostly, in teaching social responsibility ,good manners and how to get along with others in a civilized society. Some times we fail. Often a child grows to be the opposite of their parents politically, education wise and career wise. But if the parent has done their job properly they will have instilled good values no matter the path their kids take. They will also have given them the gift of love and family. It is the teachers job to give children the tools in each grade to be ready for the next grade until they wish to go to College or University or even off to work on assembly line. My goal has always been to raise children to be self supporting ,kind, hard working and honest. Thats a parents job. If your going to teach ,don`t try and raise my Grand kids in your image. You don`t have that right ! To be quite frank ,you certainly do not have the ability to teach a child anything of substance that will inhance their knowledge. I am truely sorry if my words hurt you. But my son ,you must look else where for a career. Quote
Mighty AC Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 Mighty AC, I listen with great interest when the CTF and other teacher unions bring important topics to the forefront. Youu seen to think that it should be your way or the highway. Tat scares me, and that is why we need to continue to push for social justice in our schools. There are too many ignorant people out there. My way or the highway? Quite the opposite. I believe teachers should facilitate learning while refraining from pushing personal biases on students. It seems that you are the one with an agenda. Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
socialist Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Posted February 21, 2013 socialist, just wondering, what grade levels are you planning on teaching? how much social justice do they teach in elementary grades k - 6? social justice is becoming a big part of curricula across canada. i will teach any grade sj. even math should focus on social justice. have a look. this is exciting. http://resources.curriculum.org/secretariat/justice/index.html Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
CPCFTW Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 social justice is becoming a big part of curricula across canada. i will teach any grade sj. even math should focus on social justice. have a look. this is exciting. http://resources.curriculum.org/secretariat/justice/index.html The teacher in those videos is not too bad. Unfortunately your mental development seems to be more on par with the children she's teaching. Maybe you should join their classes. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 social justice is becoming a big part of curricula across canada. i will teach any grade sj. even math should focus on social justice. have a look. this is exciting. http://resources.curriculum.org/secretariat/justice/index.html What does sj mean? Well I never heard of social justice math, interesting. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
socialist Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Posted February 21, 2013 What does sj mean? Well I never heard of social justice math, interesting. Social justice math is very unique and interesting. Rote memorization in math is a thing of the past. SJ Math excites me a great deal. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Topaz Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 It seems to me that social justice math is currents events mixed with math. That's ok, but I think more students depending on their age should more about finances, like how to balance a cheque book, how to write a cheque, spending and saving, income taxes, things that they really need to learn for their future. There are some people now in their 30-40's that used the calculators for math and today I know of some that can't do math without a calculator. Quote
Mighty AC Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 Cross curricular studies and the encouraging of students to take up causes are both fine ideas. However, teachers must ensure they are not imposing the cause or a position on their students. Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
Fletch 27 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 the rewarding part of being a teacher is that fact that we as a whole do the most to promote democracy and social justice. as we know democratic rights in canada are slowly being eroded and because of dangerous bills such as c 377. the canadian teachers federation along with provincial teacher associations are promotin teachers to engage their students to awaken to what is happening in this country. this is called HEAR MY VOICE. i want to get these posters in every canadian classroom as it is important for the future of this country. we all need to do our part and once again public school teachers and their unions are leading the way. we don't mind if people ride our coat tails on this important initiative. wake up people. it statrs with us. download the poster provided on the site and pin it up all over your community. let's make canada better. let's save democracy!!! http://vox.ctf-fce.ca/default.aspx?lang=EN&set=1 This is funny....and It happened one before too!!!! Only that time, graduates also recieved a "Hitler Youth" knife.. I sure hope this mans anger and ways isnt reflective of other teachers... Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Cross curricular studies and the encouraging of students to take up causes are both fine ideas. However, teachers must ensure they are not imposing the cause or a position on their students. There's a fine line between teaching and ideological brainwashing. Students should be exposed to multiple political points of view. When it comes to political and social positions, students shouldn't be taught them without also debating them and their merits. IMO critical thinking is not taught enough in schools. Writing essays on Shakespeare is not enough. Philosophy is hardly taught whatsoever in K -12. Every belief one has should be questioned/debated for its merits, otherwise people are sheep. But of course, many parents and teachers don't like this because it's dangerous to the agendas they wish program into young people's minds. Edited February 21, 2013 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
socialist Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Posted February 22, 2013 There's a fine line between teaching and ideological brainwashing. Students should be exposed to multiple political points of view. When it comes to political and social positions, students shouldn't be taught them without also debating them and their merits. IMO critical thinking is not taught enough in schools. Writing essays on Shakespeare is not enough. Philosophy is hardly taught whatsoever in K -12. Every belief one has should be questioned/debated for its merits, otherwise people are sheep. But of course, many parents and teachers don't like this because it's dangerous to the agendas they wish program into young people's minds. I agree. Kids aren't learning abot social justice at home. Kids are not learning about the dangers of climate change and how humans are acceleratin climate change, at home. Kids are not learn ing that canada's democracy is bing eroded. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Peanutbutter Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 I agree. Kids aren't learning abot social justice at home. Kids are not learning about the dangers of climate change and how humans are acceleratin climate change, at home. Kids are not learn ing that canada's democracy is bing eroded. I don't think you have the intelligence to speak about those things you listed, no one does. What about social activists? Would they not raise their children with those lessons being taught or do they all not have children. Quote Ah la peanut butter sandwiches! - The Amazing Mumferd
Mighty AC Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 There's a fine line between teaching and ideological brainwashing. Students should be exposed to multiple political points of view. When it comes to political and social positions, students shouldn't be taught them without also debating them and their merits. IMO critical thinking is not taught enough in schools. Writing essays on Shakespeare is not enough. Philosophy is hardly taught whatsoever in K -12. Every belief one has should be questioned/debated for its merits, otherwise people are sheep. But of course, many parents and teachers don't like this because it's dangerous to the agendas they wish program into young people's minds. I agree. The Texas Republicans actually opposed the teaching of critical thinking skills in their 2012 platform for this very reason. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
Muddy Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 I agree. Kids aren't learning abot social justice at home. Kids are not learning about the dangers of climate change and how humans are acceleratin climate change, at home. Kids are not learn ing that canada's democracy is bing eroded. You have made a statement there that kids are not being taught about climate change and that humans are the cause. Is it your wish to eliminate humans ? There are those with scientific degrees that do not think climate change is the doing of humans. Along with your theory that climate change is because of humans are you going to allow an alternative view? Or is there to be one view only ? How is Canada`s democracy being eroded ? We have free elections. Governments change . What are you on about ? Or is it just because it is a Conservative government ? Quote
Mighty AC Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 Muddy your view on climate change is at odds with science, but there are several other threads for that discussion. Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
Muddy Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 Muddy your view on climate change is at odds with science, but there are several other threads for that discussion. Thank you for pointing out that there are other threads dealing with this subject. I will investigate those threads for I like different points of view. But I was not argueing with socialist about climate change, I was asking if,since there are differing scientific views on the subject would he allow alternative arguement in his class room. I never gave a personal view on the subject. Has in your mind science closed the door to further investigation of the subject ? That what socialist as an educater should close further thought with children and science ? Have we learned all that there is to know ? Should a class room teacher dictate science as gospel what is right and wrong with out question ? Quote
Mighty AC Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 I'm all for getting students to ask questions and search for the answers. On this subject roughly 93% of climate scientists are on board with anthropogenic climate change. It's a contentious political issue so I just don't want to see yet another thread turn into a climate argument. Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
Muddy Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 I'm all for getting students to ask questions and search for the answers. On this subject roughly 93% of climate scientists are on board with anthropogenic climate change. It's a contentious political issue so I just don't want to see yet another thread turn into a climate argument. Unfortunately your arguement is not with me. It is socialist who brought up the subject as to his view a teachers duty lays. You will notice I am not furthering the disscussion on climate change by your quote of 93% etc. Quote
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