jbg Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 I doubt if I'll be voting for anyone. You and I agree on that one. I won't even vote in the next general election. Or any provincial elections. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
waldo Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 I dunno....does a UofT dropout * , mail room (cuz daddy got him the job) clerk , not working in any significant private enterprise deserve to be called Prime Minister Stephen Harper? (* subsequently and Econ Masters obtained. ) I thought Harper is an economist? Doesn't everyone graduating with an Econ degree automatically get to claim to be an economist... actual related job/career experience doesn't matter, right? Quote
guyser Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 I thought Harper is an economist? Doesn't everyone graduating with an Econ degree automatically get to claim to be an economist... actual related job/career experience doesn't matter, right? He does have the degree and you are correct My only point was to laugh at the attempts to put down a guy like Trudeau based on silly nonsense such as his upbringing and jobs. Now the counter point is coming back that he hasnt done as much as harper, which I think , apart from being PM, Trudeau is likely to do well. Not to mention if Harper has been in politics a long time, someone is forgetting that Justin was born into politics Quote
Peanutbutter Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 I see so having good looks, being a grade school drama teacher, having a famous PM daddy means he can run a country. Ok I got it now, thank you for explaining it to me. I still wonder why Trudeau hasn't made his positions on issues clear yet. What is he waiting for? Why is he so afraid of debate? Even within his own party. Quote Ah la peanut butter sandwiches! - The Amazing Mumferd
jbg Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 I still wonder why Trudeau hasn't made his positions on issues clear yet. What is he waiting for? Why is he so afraid of debate? Even within his own party. The first Trudeau did the same thing. Trudeaumania was fun while it lasted. Which was, let's see, till: The Official Languages Act; Multiculturalism Act; or The FLQ fiasco? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 Don't forget the NEP.....Albertans still remember PET very fondly for that ! I'm thinking that maybe Mr. Trudeau could use some American support...you know...like Canadians for Obama. First I would have to distinguish him from a late night infomercial book-selling scoundrel named Trudeau, but that shouldn't be too hard. Older Americans will no doubt remember President Nixon's classic description of Trudeau Sr., and his wonderful response. And who could forget Mom's legendary partying and drug use with the Rolling Stones ? Should make for a great campaign....go Justin...go Justin....go Justin !! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 He does have the degree and you are correct My only point was to laugh at the attempts to put down a guy like Trudeau based on silly nonsense such as his upbringing and jobs. Now the counter point is coming back that he hasnt done as much as harper, which I think , apart from being PM, Trudeau is likely to do well. Not to mention if Harper has been in politics a long time, someone is forgetting that Justin was born into politics nooooo! Clearly, my snarc didn't come through. Whenever anyone presumes to flaunt Harper as "an economist", I just chuckle... as if having a degree makes one, "an economist"! it seems everyone so conveniently forgets the other Harper... the early days Harper... the NCC Harper guy... the Alliance Harper guy. Quote
guyser Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 nooooo! Clearly, my snarc didn't come through. Whenever anyone presumes to flaunt Harper as "an economist", I just chuckle... as if having a degree makes one, "an economist"! it seems everyone so conveniently forgets the other Harper... the early days Harper... the NCC Harper guy... the Alliance Harper guy. Oops, should have caught that. Next time ! Someone conveniently is forgetting everything, and perhaps making stuff up, I didnt find anything to do w a drama teacher. Harper has some bad items in his closet, no doubt about that. How someone can hate the country be the one who wants to run the country. But alas.....he does. Quote
PIK Posted February 25, 2013 Author Report Posted February 25, 2013 Oops, should have caught that. Next time ! Someone conveniently is forgetting everything, and perhaps making stuff up, I didnt find anything to do w a drama teacher. Harper has some bad items in his closet, no doubt about that. How someone can hate the country be the one who wants to run the country. But alas.....he does. And you belive that shit. What type of leader would justin be ,when everything has been handed to him ,like the liberal leadership. And harper has worked hard to get where he is. Harper will never lead a party, did it, harper will never bring 2 parties together did it, harper will never win the PM job ,did it, Harper will never get a majority ,did it. Harper deserves to be there and will be for some time to come.Harper or other conservatives do not hate the country just disgusted by what is has become. And he cleaning this place up, is he perfect far from it, but better then any other leader we have had. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted February 25, 2013 Author Report Posted February 25, 2013 nooooo! Clearly, my snarc didn't come through. Whenever anyone presumes to flaunt Harper as "an economist", I just chuckle... as if having a degree makes one, "an economist"! it seems everyone so conveniently forgets the other Harper... the early days Harper... the NCC Harper guy... the Alliance Harper guy. Lets not forget the reform party that martin and chretien got their ideas on how to pay the debt down, it was'nt those 2 that figured it out. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
waldo Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 Lets not forget the reform party that martin and chretien got their ideas on how to pay the debt down, it was'nt those 2 that figured it out. citation request Quote
guyser Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 And you belive that shit. What shit? I am reparteeing with one who is making a lame attempt to denigrate another politician, and only provinding tit for tat. I have no love for or use for JT , but find it funny how many are running around with the sky is falling syndrome. Harper deserves to be there and will be for some time to come.Harper or other conservatives do not hate the country just disgusted by what is has become. And he cleaning this place up, is he perfect far from it, but better then any other leader we have had. Foir the record I think Harper has done an admirable job, certain things he sucks at but they all do. But one cannot deny the distain he had for this country when he was a westerner , and man is that funny...a westerner ! Quote
Argus Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 He does have the degree and you are correct My only point was to laugh at the attempts to put down a guy like Trudeau based on silly nonsense such as his upbringing and jobs. Now the counter point is coming back that he hasnt done as much as harper, which I think , apart from being PM, Trudeau is likely to do well. Not to mention if Harper has been in politics a long time, someone is forgetting that Justin was born into politics Here's the thing. Harper came up through the ranks, and it was a hard-fought battle. Say what you will about American-style primaries, the candidates are put through the ringer, and you have to demonstrate some abilities to survive that before you go on to the real election. Trudeau has done nothing of substance beyond his time as a drama school teacher. He has stated no real positions, developed no policies, and communicated no vision. He is being handed the Liberal party leadership without a fight of any kind. There have been on real debates and no real challenges. Still, Liberals are swooning over him. Basically because he's pretty. If he was short, fat and balding he would not even be running because no one would support him. So what happens when pretty boy sits in a room with Harper and Mulcair? It's quite possibly going to look like a poodle sitting down with a pair of rottweilers. Harper might flip him a loony and ask him to go get some coffee while the men discuss things. You don't think so? Maybe not. But nobody really knows because he's not an experienced debater or experienced at politics. And while Liberals have no problem letting him get away with vague generalities and feel-good sentiment Mulcair and Harper are going to savage him if he doesn't bring more to the table than nice hair. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) But one cannot deny the distain he had for this country when he was a westerner , and man is that funny...a westerner ! And Trudeau stating that he would want Quebec to separate, with him in it, of course, if he thought Canada supported Harper's principles? Harper didn't have disdain for the country, he had disdain for the politicians who were running it. Edited February 25, 2013 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 Harper has some bad items in his closet, no doubt about that. How someone can hate the country be the one who wants to run the country. But alas.....he does. Do you actually believe that crap? More to the point do you expect anyone else to? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
guyser Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 So what happens when pretty boy sits in a room with Harper and Mulcair? It's quite possibly going to look like a poodle sitting down with a pair of rottweilers. Harper might flip him a loony and ask him to go get some coffee while the men discuss things. You don't think so? Maybe not. But nobody really knows because he's not an experienced debater or experienced at politics. And while Liberals have no problem letting him get away with vague generalities and feel-good sentiment Mulcair and Harper are going to savage him if he doesn't bring more to the table than nice hair. Agreed, and while I am no real fan of the guy, primarily for what you poste here, I wasnt advocating for JT, just laughing at the attempts to make him some neophyte just woke up in politics kid. We both know, absent of what he will propose going forward, is simply not true. Quote
shortlived Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Apparently I hear a lot of what makes Trudeau is his world class team at mission control. Of most interest is Trudeau's link to power corp... Ted Johnson, although he has some big people in his corner. You really can't get a much higher administrative team of currents. I think if you look at who he is drawing as his supporters you will see that he has key people behind his campaign. He looks at home in the whitebrim too... http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.869863!/httpImage/image.jpeg_gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpeg sorry for trolling with that pic... he looks like he could ride a bucker. I wonder what his reasons for refusing a one on one debate the Garneau were... Garneau might say Garneau told reporters at a press conference that Trudeau was "untested"and was hiding behind a "carefully crafted public relations campaign." Justin might say Trudeau tweeted: "I respect all the candidates for #LPCLdr. See you in Halifax, Marc. I hear there are 1 on 1s. ;-)". Edited February 25, 2013 by shortlived Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
guyser Posted February 25, 2013 Report Posted February 25, 2013 Do you actually believe that crap? More to the point do you expect anyone else to? His firewall letter, his attempt to curry favour by describing Canada as some socialist shithole is a pretty good start. As for the hate part, that was licence as a counter. Of course he never hated the country of his birth. Disdain perhaps.... Quote
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