bud Posted February 1, 2013 Report Posted February 1, 2013 link All settlement activity in occupied territory must cease "without preconditions" and Israel "must immediately initiate a process of withdrawal of all settlers", said the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC). Israel, it said, was in violation of article 49 of the fourth Geneva convention, which forbids the transfer of civilian populations to occupied territory. The settlements were "leading to a creeping annexation that prevents the establishment of a contiguous and viable Palestinian state and undermines the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination," it said. the findings in the report, lead by christine chanet, a french judge, confirm what the rest of the world already knows and what most other reports by different organizations have already said. however, what separates this report is the conclusion and the timing of it. Israel must withdraw all settlers from the West Bank or potentially face a case at the international criminal court (ICC) for serious violations of international law it is also easier for the palestinians to go to the ICC, since their status was upgraded to a non-member state at the united nations. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
cybercoma Posted February 1, 2013 Report Posted February 1, 2013 When the UN makes unfavourable decisions people just complain about them having no authority. Nevermind the fact that doing so implies they are wiping their asses with the Geneva Convention. Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted February 1, 2013 Report Posted February 1, 2013 The UN has no authority. It needs it's members to back up it's decisions, and as things stand, no members that matter are going to back this one up. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Hudson Jones Posted February 2, 2013 Report Posted February 2, 2013 No authority to what? This is only a report. The authority is with the International Criminal Court. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Guest American Woman Posted February 2, 2013 Report Posted February 2, 2013 The ICC has no means to carry it out; Israel is not a state party to the ICC, and won't be handing anyone over even if they are indicted for crimes by the UN. Quote
jbg Posted February 2, 2013 Report Posted February 2, 2013 No authority to what? This is only a report. The authority is with the International Criminal Court. The U.N. and the I.C.C. are both jokes. The only question is which one is funnier. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bud Posted February 3, 2013 Author Report Posted February 3, 2013 The U.N. and the I.C.C. are both jokes. The only question is which one is funnier. the u.n. allowed israel to be formed. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
jbg Posted February 3, 2013 Report Posted February 3, 2013 the u.n. allowed israel to be formed. No. The U.N. ratified facts on the ground. The Zionists formed the country. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bud Posted February 3, 2013 Author Report Posted February 3, 2013 No. The U.N. ratified facts on the ground. The Zionists formed the country. meaning that they allowed it to be formed. without the u.n.'s blessing, israel would not be a country. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
DogOnPorch Posted February 3, 2013 Report Posted February 3, 2013 No...Israel was admitted to the UN as a member state by a vote. Israel declaring its independence is another affair timed to happen as the British Mandate expired. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Declaration_of_Independence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Israel#Independence_and_first_years Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest American Woman Posted February 3, 2013 Report Posted February 3, 2013 (edited) Any talk about Israeli "war crimes" and facing the ICC is just blowing hot air - same as it was back in the day regarding Bush et al. At any rate, Israel is not going to appear before the ICC regardless of what any UN reports say. Edited February 3, 2013 by American Woman Quote
bud Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Posted February 4, 2013 i don't think anyone is under the impression that israel is about to suddenly respect and follow international law. the problem for israel in this situation is that other countries will begin to put pressure on israel if or when the ICC gets involved. economic pressure can be quite powerful. the bds (boycott, divestment and sanction) movement is already putting pressure on israel as companies and organizations are pulling out of working with israel. since majority of countries are signatories to the ICC, any ruling against israel will accelerate the bds movement. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
bud Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) actions like this is exactly why israel is seen as a law breaking, arrogant, bordering on fascist state. The Israel Defense Forces demolished an encampment set up by Palestinians near the West Bank village of Burin over the weekend even though the Civil Administration says the army is not authorized to operate there. Before the demolition, the Civil Administration informed the IDF that it was not authorized to take action because the land is in Area B, which is under Palestinian civilian control. An officer from the Civil Administration, which is responsible for enforcing building and planning laws, was present and said that since the structures were erected in Area B, only the Palestinian Authority has the right to enforce civil law such as that governing illegal construction. Hetzroni ordered the encampment demolished anyway and the soldiers began to break up the tents with their hands. Residents of the nearby Jewish outpost made off with the tin structure. link the list of indefensible actions by israel continue to pile up and they are making it difficult for the western world to ignore. Edited February 4, 2013 by bud Quote http://whoprofits.org/
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