punked Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 And Portugal is in the poor house, Outstanding!! Here's a better idea, you have a narcotic in your blood system, your health card goes in the shredder. Dumbest post of the day. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 That maybe the case with Pot. But what about Heroine, Cocaine and Meth? I think it's noble effort to try and keep people away from insidious drugs that are always harmful to the users. What about alcohol? Even if criminals will always supply it, governments should try and keep those drugs away from Canadians. Do you realize how many prescription drugs contain opiates, cocaine and variations of meth? Could they not use something else? Anyways if people want to blow their brains out on coke I am not going to stop them. If they end up killing themselves because of it, in the end it's not my problem. Legalize it all and let the chips fall where they may. But even if it was all legalized, I will still only go for the pot. The other stuff is just not worth it. It all has to be a personal choice. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 And Portugal is in the poor house, Outstanding!! Here's a better idea, you have a narcotic in your blood system, your health card goes in the shredder. You might want to stay away from pharmaceutical prescriptions as they contain many narcotics. Quote
eyeball Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 Here's a better idea, you have a narcotic in your blood system, your health card goes in the shredder. What do narcotics have to do with cannabis? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
GostHacked Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 What do narcotics have to do with cannabis? I am thinking that these people think cannabis is a narcotic. Probably watched an old movie or newsreels about 'reefer madness'. Those are fun to watch as they have people acting all crazy like they took meth. We know that cannabis does not have those kinds of effects on people. Quote
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kairos Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Posted January 31, 2013 Oh I don't know, historical precedenthttp://en.wikipedia....wiki/Opium_Wars Nobody wants a country full of Intoxicated people -bluebloodYeah, because prohibition worked so well for China, it gave Britain an excuse to conquer and subject them. Quote
eyeball Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Well like one guy said here, Sounds a little crazy to me. Sounds a little harmless too. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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cybercoma Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Dumbest post of the day. That's being generous. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Sounds a little harmless too. Agreed, I never have the urge to go on a rampage after a couple hits. The only arguments between pot smokers is where they are going to order the pizza from. The only thing that gets attacked by pot smokers is the pizza when it finally arrives. The only after effects are stuffed stoned people who are now playing Katamari Damacy for the 10th straight hour. Quote
Boges Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Agreed, I never have the urge to go on a rampage after a couple hits. The only arguments between pot smokers is where they are going to order the pizza from. The only thing that gets attacked by pot smokers is the pizza when it finally arrives. The only after effects are stuffed stoned people who are now playing Katamari Damacy for the 10th straight hour. Well what about when said stoner decides he/she wants to drive? There's no, non-invasive way to taste for cannibis use like there is with alcohol. Again I'm not anti cannabis, but it's not a drug that carries absolutely no risk to the user and society. Edited January 31, 2013 by Boges Quote
GostHacked Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Well what about when said stoner decides he/she wants to drive? There's no, non-invasive way to taste for cannibis use like there is with alcohol. Again I'm not anti cannabis, but it's not a drug that carries absolutely no risk to the user and society. People who drink and drive are dumb. People who smoke and drive are also dumb. You have zero tolerance policies that are in place now that are not effective. People still drink and drive and people get killed. It's all about proper education, and for the most part, personal responsibility. Quote
Boges Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) People who drink and drive are dumb. People who smoke and drive are also dumb. You have zero tolerance policies that are in place now that are not effective. People still drink and drive and people get killed. It's all about proper education, and for the most part, personal responsibility. But there's no legal way to determine if someone is high while driving, I guess if you caught them smoking while driving I suppose. Traffic Laws would be updated if MJ were to be legalized. MADD would like the police to stop people to check BAC without any probable cause. On the morning show I listen to I heard a Federal Liberal candidate that was advocating for legalized Pot. (MCBOs) Edited January 31, 2013 by Boges Quote
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guyser Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 But there's no legal way to determine if someone is high while driving, I guess if you caught them smoking while driving I suppose. First part is true although testing is underway success has not come about yet. As for the caught smoking while driving it may not at all. One can drink a beer while driving and not be charged with impaired driving. But one can get an impaired charge if under the influence of Neo Citran. Traffic Laws would be updated if MJ were to be legalized. Shouldn't have to . Existing laws should be good enough. MADD would like the police to stop people to check BAC without any probable cause. madd can go piss up a rope. Useless organization. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 They can monitor and catch people who are driving while drunk, with roadside checks such as the R.I.D.E. program. But there's no similar way to detect when people like you, ie. dopers, have been smoking your doobies. Most people have simply common sense to not drive while impaired. I have driven under the influence of several types of drugs including alcohol, and in retrospect, each time I had done it, was really really really stupid. If I do smoke and then decide I need to go somewhere, i'll cab it or take the bus if not within walking distance. Common sense is key in everything we do. Including the laws and how we apply them. Quote
Boges Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Most people have simply common sense to not drive while impaired. I have driven under the influence of several types of drugs including alcohol, and in retrospect, each time I had done it, was really really really stupid. If I do smoke and then decide I need to go somewhere, i'll cab it or take the bus if not within walking distance. Common sense is key in everything we do. Including the laws and how we apply them. Most people have the common sense to do a lot of stuff. But they don't. The Anti Drunk Driving lobby always says that your judgement is impaired so you don't really know what a safe level of consumption is. Quote
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guyser Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Let's ask the guy lying on the floor covered in Dorito dust, who can't stop laughing uncontrollably, what he thinks about driving... if he can even formulate a sensible answer. "No this stuff's not harmful..." Manny , you are so last century on this. Did you write Reefer Madness ? Someone lying on the floor in dorito dust is that way for reasons that have virtually nothing to do with pot. He or she was a slacker long before mj came into thier life and they made decisions that lead them to what they are now. There is a wealth of information out there, it might be worthwhile to go have a look see. Or just fly to Colorado and have some fun. Seem they get it. There is no harmful long term effects as respects addiction. The body does not get dependant on mj , thus no shakes or withdrawal symptons. Quote
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jacee Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 They can monitor and catch people who are driving while drunk, with roadside checks such as the R.I.D.E. program. But there's no similar way to detect when people like you, ie. dopers, have been smoking your doobies. 'Erratic driving' pretty much covers all 'impairment', whether too fast, too slow, drifting across lane lines, etc. Police notice, and so do other drivers. Police also check for pupil reaction (or lack of) with their flashlights. I read a while back that the Police Chiefs of Canada would like to see pot legalized because use is less dangerous than alcohol, and to get it out of the hands of organized crime and the violence associated with distribution. However the police officers association didn't want to see it legalized because 'there'd be all these criminals running around and we wouldn't be able to do anything'. duh Quote
cybercoma Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Most people have simply common sense to not drive while impaired. Actually, driving while impaired was quite common until MADD started pressuring the government to change legislation, enforcement, and punishments for doing it. The incidents significantly declined after that. Quote
guyser Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 You must have heard about that research study? No but feel free to post it. Quote
punked Posted February 1, 2013 Report Posted February 1, 2013 But just can't stop laughing, huh? I mean, that shows some kind of an involuntary response. You gotta wonder what kind of person wants to do that to themselves. Your info is out of date. I recall there was some research came out last year, showed it made some people go schizo. One kid I know flipped his lid. He toked on one of those giant bongs, had a freak out. His parents brought him to the emergency ward, but there was nothing they could do. And now is checked-out permanently. You must have heard about that research study? I heard about this one guy once that was totally made up to. Quote
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