Guest Posted February 14, 2013 Report Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) Why would anyone respect Afghanistan's leader? It's a shame about civilian deaths, but three Taliban leaders are worth going after. I'm sure those operating the drone cared more about civilian casualties than their targets did the last time they went outside. Edited February 14, 2013 by bcsapper Quote
GostHacked Posted February 14, 2013 Report Posted February 14, 2013 Why would anyone respect Afghanistan's leader? True, the USA never respects it's puppets. It's a shame about civilian deaths, but three Taliban leaders are worth going after. I'm sure those operating the drone cared more about civilian casualties than their targets did the last time they went outside. The drone operator is sitting in a bunker thousands of miles away. It's a damn video game to them. All those years of MS Simulator paid off!!. Let's flip this around a bit shall we? Hypothetical hostage situation within the USA, are civilian deaths acceptable? Even a latest example with the ex LAPD of Dorner. Is it okay to take out civilians just to get the bad guy? Please don't give me a hypocritical answer. Because that about is all that can be presented at this point. Quote
Guest Posted February 14, 2013 Report Posted February 14, 2013 True, the USA never respects it's puppets. The drone operator is sitting in a bunker thousands of miles away. It's a damn video game to them. All those years of MS Simulator paid off!!. Let's flip this around a bit shall we? Hypothetical hostage situation within the USA, are civilian deaths acceptable? Even a latest example with the ex LAPD of Dorner. Is it okay to take out civilians just to get the bad guy? Please don't give me a hypocritical answer. Because that about is all that can be presented at this point. I don't know what a hypocritical answer would be. Is this war, or a police action? I would say, in the police action you describe, the civilians would be paramount because he isn't going anywhere. Lets say he has a lot of hostages. If he starts killing them, and more lives might be put at risk by raiding the building, but in the end, lives will be saved because he will be killed before he kills them all himself, do you go in? Do you assume he is going to kill them all just because he started killing, or do you hope he stops, and therefore you don't need to go in? it's an interesting question, but not relevant. As for drones. They are in use against an enemy in a theatre of war. In order to kill an enemy these days, air strikes are favourite. So you can send in a chopper or a jet, and kill the enemy with the civilian casualties that come with it, and also risk your pilot(s), or you can send in a drone, and kill the enemy with the civilian casualties that come with it, and not risk your pilot(s). I believe I read on here that drone caused civilian casualties are lower than other air strike casualties. There is the option of not killing your enemy, but that will lead to more civilian casualties in the end. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted February 14, 2013 Report Posted February 14, 2013 Impressive ! Give us the list of dead 9/11 victims from many nations so we can compare. You're right, bc. The drone attacks are on a moral par with the 9/11 attacks. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
cybercoma Posted February 14, 2013 Report Posted February 14, 2013 Why would anyone respect Afghanistan's leader? Because they're a sovereign nation? Unless sovereignty is meaningless, then why respect any national leader? Quote
Guest Posted February 14, 2013 Report Posted February 14, 2013 Because they're a sovereign nation? Unless sovereignty is meaningless, then why respect any national leader? Isn't Karzai top of the corruption pops? Given time and inclination, I could probably come up with a score or two national leaders who do not deserve respect. I'm sure you could too. We might even coincide on a few. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 14, 2013 Report Posted February 14, 2013 Ooooo...Oooooo (hand raised).....Robert Mugabe Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted February 14, 2013 Report Posted February 14, 2013 Ooooo...Oooooo (hand raised).....Robert Mugabe Well sure, go for the low hanging fruit... Quote
jbg Posted February 14, 2013 Report Posted February 14, 2013 Ooooo...Oooooo (hand raised).....Robert Mugabe But he's not an Israeli leader or U.S. Republican leader. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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