Apple Corporation is Bad for Technology

[Boges]

I'm sure there's many with iPhone 6 Plus that haven't bent their phones either. *shrugs*

I'm more concerned with how the hell they can release an update that destroys telephony functionality.

A software problem can be easily fixed. Though I've never heard of an Android update that had to be patched TWICE! in less than a week.

What's hilarious about bendgate is the hubris of Apple. No one ever said the iPhone 5 was bulky but they had to shave another 2 mm off of it and ADD! to the size of the phone. In the case of the Plus they added an inch and a half.

I read on Forbes that the big problem is the fact that they machined out a hole in the casing for a nice Apple logo. That degraded the integrity of the casing further.

But to hear people being called idiots for not using a case or putting a phone in pockets only bolsters the reasons why Apple is derided. It's hypocrisy! How many times do we hear that Android phones are made of cheap plastic? Who cares! Android fans say because you're going to use a case anyway. And if you need a case why the need for that 2mm less width? And why make the phone slimmer if they phone wasn't meant for use in a "pocket". Who cares the weight or girth of a phone if you're just going to use it in a purse or. . . man sachel. (murse)

This is a good week for people that don't understand the cult of Apple.

Edited September 25, 2014 by Boges

[cybercoma]

Consumer Reports is on it. The iPhone 6/6+ are not as bendy as rumoured.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/09/consumer-reports-tests-iphone-6-bendgate/index.htm

[Mighty AC]

I watched a video demonstration of people purposely bending various smart phones. The new iPhones do bend but it takes a significant amount of pressure. On the other side, the new cases are thinner, lighter and yet are less prone to shatter (than i5s) when dropped. I'd take the remote possibility of bend over a device that easily shatters. I'm not a fan of Apple as a company, but attacking the build quality of the new i6 is ridiculous.

[Boges]

I watched a video demonstration of people purposely bending various smart phones. The new iPhones do bend but it takes a significant amount of pressure. On the other side, the new cases are thinner, lighter and yet are less prone to shatter (than i5s) when dropped. I'd take the remote possibility of bend over a device that easily shatters. I'm not a fan of Apple as a company, but attacking the build quality of the new i6 is ridiculous.

I think the issue at hand is, of course one should buy a protective case for the expensive piece of electronics they take with them everywhere.

Apple has always claimed that their phones are better quality made of metal instead of plastic.

But is that something really worth playing a premium for if you're likely buying a protective case anyway?

[cybercoma]

I don't think anyone needs to buy a protective case. Of all the millions of units they sold the first day, 9 people have contacted Apple about bent phones. If it takes as much force as it takes to break 4 pencils at the same time to irreversibly bend one of these phones, simply putting it in your pocket is not going to damage them. It's a bunch of BS hype for nothing.

[Boges]

What do you have to do to lose your job in Cuppertino?

http://business.financialpost.com/2014/09/26/apple-incs-bungled-ios-8-update-linked-to-same-manager-behind-flawed-maps-debut/?__lsa=5a85-3c5d

Apple Inc.’s release of a software update that cut off people’s ability to make calls from their iPhones is linked to another snafu that’s still fresh in people’s minds: the 2012 introduction of a new maps program.

The similarities don’t end with the apologies Apple offered to disgruntled customers. The same person at Apple was in charge of catching problems before both products were released. Josh Williams, the mid-level manager overseeing quality assurance for Apple’s iOS mobile-software group, was also in charge of quality control for maps, according to people familiar with Apple’s management structure.

Williams was removed from the maps team after the software gave users unreliable directions and mislabeled landmarks, though he remained in charge of testing for iOS, said one person, who asked not to be identified since the information isn’t public.

[Bryan]

Considering Apple keeps topping their own record for the largest product launches of any kind, it's actually amazing how minor the issues have been, and how quickly they were fixed.

[Boges]

Considering Apple keeps topping their own record for the largest product launches of any kind, it's actually amazing how minor the issues have been, and how quickly they were fixed.

There's a faction that will buy Apple no matter how crappy the product they produce is.

Apparently this iOS 8 thing a pretty serious problem though. But it's not going to stop someone who's neck deep in the Apple eco-system from switching.

[Wilber]

I haven't had any problems making calls with my 5s using IOS 8. Must be a 6 problem.

[Boges]

I haven't had any problems making calls with my 5s using IOS 8. Must be a 6 problem.

Apparently the biggest problem is with the patch they released.

[cybercoma]

The problem was with the installer. If you updated to 8.0.1 from your phone, it messed it up. The solution was to update it through iTunes on your computer.

[Bryan]

The problem was with the installer. If you updated to 8.0.1 from your phone, it messed it up. The solution was to update it through iTunes on your computer.

Which you should always do anyway.

The issue affected a VERY small number of users, and it was fixed almost immediately.

[Boges]

Which you should always do anyway.

The issue affected a VERY small number of users, and it was fixed almost immediately.

No you shouldn't. With Android you never have to sync to a PC. I think I had to getting my Samsung to the Ice Cream Sandwich using Kies. It was no fun. Android updates all come OTA now.

[cybercoma]

Which you should always do anyway.

The issue affected a VERY small number of users, and it was fixed almost immediately.

If you should always do that, then they shouldn't allow you to update from your phone directly. I had no idea you could update your phone via iTunes until this problem occurred.

[Bryan]

If you should always do that, then they shouldn't allow you to update from your phone directly. I had no idea you could update your phone via iTunes until this problem occurred.

How could you not know? Are you brand new to Apple? I mean that in all seriousness, not as a shot. iTunes is the way all Apple mobile devices were synced and updated up until fairly recently. Even once OTA updates came around, if you paid even the slightest bit of attention, you could see that it's always the OTA updates that gave people trouble.

They allow you to do patch updates too instead of downloading the full install, but you're taking unnecessary risks when you do that too. OTA updates for an OS should never be done on any device, it's not worth the risk. Wireless signals drop in and out, files get easily corrupted.

[Boges]

How could you not know? Are you brand new to Apple? I mean that in all seriousness, not as a shot. iTunes is the way all Apple mobile devices were synced and updated up until fairly recently. Even once OTA updates came around, if you paid even the slightest bit of attention, you could see that it's always the OTA updates that gave people trouble.

They allow you to do patch updates too instead of downloading the full install, but you're taking unnecessary risks when you do that too. OTA updates for an OS should never be done on any device, it's not worth the risk. Wireless signals drop in and out, files get easily corrupted.

The only iOS device I've never owned was an iPod Touch and once you turned it on, the first thing it said was to sync with iTunes.

It would be a pain in the ass though.

I've got 3 Android updates OTA without a problem.

[Bryan]

The only iOS device I've never owned was an iPod Touch and once you turned it on, the first thing it said was to sync with iTunes.

It would be a pain in the ass though.

I've got 3 Android updates OTA without a problem.

You're lucky. Android OTA updates are far more problematic than Apple's.

Android OTA update fail

[Boges]

You're lucky. Android OTA updates are far more problematic than Apple's.

Android OTA update fail

You linked to a Google search where the top result is from 2012.

[cybercoma]

How could you not know? Are you brand new to Apple? I mean that in all seriousness, not as a shot. iTunes is the way all Apple mobile devices were synced and updated up until fairly recently. Even once OTA updates came around, if you paid even the slightest bit of attention, you could see that it's always the OTA updates that gave people trouble.

They allow you to do patch updates too instead of downloading the full install, but you're taking unnecessary risks when you do that too. OTA updates for an OS should never be done on any device, it's not worth the risk. Wireless signals drop in and out, files get easily corrupted.

I've only had an iPhone for the last 3 years, so yes I guess that's relatively new. I don't ever remember not being able to update directly from the phone itself.

[Bryan]

You linked to a Google search where the top result is from 2012.

Is your scroll function broken? Lots of those hits are from this year. It's VERY common.

[Boges]

Is your scroll function broken? Lots of those hits are from this year. It's VERY common.

Yeah but the experience isn't universal. Unless you have a Nexus device you're getting your OS from the carrier or the manufacturer.

[Bryan]

I've only had an iPhone for the last 3 years, so yes I guess that's relatively new. I don't ever remember not being able to update directly from the phone itself.

That's about right. Apple's first OTA iOS update was in Nov 2011.

[Wilber]

The problem was with the installer. If you updated to 8.0.1 from your phone, it messed it up. The solution was to update it through iTunes on your computer.

I did mine straight on to the phone while watching a grand kid's soccer game. Must have had a good connection.

[Bryan]

Yeah but the experience isn't universal. Unless you have a Nexus device you're getting your OS from the carrier or the manufacturer.

Definitely not universal, just very common.

[cybercoma]

This is what I mean. I don't think there's much difference between Apple and its competitors. They're different flavours of ice cream to me, so I don't get all the hating on each others' preferences.