bleeding heart Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 But most whites have been raised with guilt for being white, So I've heard. But I can't say I've actually seen or heard anybody, ever, express any sort of "guilt" for being white. I suspect that some people, irritated at certain forms of political correctness, have misread or massively overexaggerated the effects. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
The_Squid Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 You're confusing causing an uproar with being allowed. This is not illegal, whites could do the same thing if they choose, for all I know they do. As you say, it would cause an uproar, but the whites could just tell the uproarers to piss up a rope if they felt strongly about being exclusive. But most whites have been raised with guilt for being white, so they'd tuck tail and change their policies. There is no "browns" league that doesn't allow whites. There is an Indo-Canadian league that only allows 4 players to be non-Indian. Your whole premise is flawed. Quote
Canuckistani Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 There is no "browns" league that doesn't allow whites. There is an Indo-Canadian league that only allows 4 players to be non-Indian. Your whole premise is flawed. What premise is that, exactly? You seem to be trying to nail me for something, but I can't on the life of me figure out what it is. Quote
The_Squid Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 What premise is that, exactly? You seem to be trying to nail me for something, but I can't on the life of me figure out what it is. That this is based on colour of skin and not nationality. Quote
Canuckistani Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 That this is based on colour of skin and not nationality. Nope, it's based on nationality. Try advocating for not allowing Indo-Canadians to immigrate to Canada, and see if you wouldn't be accused of racism. Strictly speaking, the term racism is way overused, but we all understand that what is meant is bigotry. Bigotry just doesn't have the same panache and doesn't result in the same amount of reparations dollars if you are a victim of it, that's all. Indo-Canadians are free to associate and prevent others from joining them same as the Swedes you mentioned. If the Swedes kept out the Indo-Canadians, they would probably be accused of racism. Of course they might be Swedes of African origin, in which case that would be funny. But, accusations aside, it's legal for non-profit groups to discriminate. I don't have a problem with that, even if I don't agree with what they're doing. It would be kind of funny to see an Indo-Canadian soccer team populated by a bunch of blue eyed blond haired boys because they happen to be the best players tho. Quote
The_Squid Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 Nope, it's based on nationality. No shit! That's what I have been saying. YOU are the one going off about "whites", not me! Try advocating for not allowing Indo-Canadians to immigrate to Canada, and see if you wouldn't be accused of racism. Ind-Canadians don't need to immigrate.... the "Canadian" part after the hyphen means that they are already here. Indo-Canadians are free to associate and prevent others from joining them same as the Swedes you mentioned. If the Swedes kept out the Indo-Canadians, they would probably be accused of racism. I am going to need some proof... "probably" doesn't cut it. I don't have a problem with that, even if I don't agree with what they're doing. Apparently you do have a problem with it. You keep bringing up "whites" and racism.... Quote
Canuckistani Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 No shit! That's what I have been saying. YOU are the one going off about "whites", not me! Ind-Canadians don't need to immigrate.... the "Canadian" part after the hyphen means that they are already here. I am going to need some proof... "probably" doesn't cut it. Apparently you do have a problem with it. You keep bringing up "whites" and racism.... I know, it's just me. Quote
jacee Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 You're confusing causing an uproar with being allowed. This is not illegal, whites could do the same thing if they choose, for all I know they do. As you say, it would cause an uproar, but the whites could just tell the uproarers to piss up a rope if they felt strongly about being exclusive. But most whites have been raised with guilt for being white, so they'd tuck tail and change their policies. Speaking only for yourself? Guilt is a stupid wasteful immobilizing emotion indulged in, and whined about, only by those with no intention of changing the status quo. A healthy awareness of your own privileges as a white person, however, can be constructive. Quote
Canuckistani Posted August 17, 2012 Report Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) Speaking only for yourself? Guilt is a stupid wasteful immobilizing emotion indulged in, and whined about, only by those with no intention of changing the status quo. A healthy awareness of your own privileges as a white person, however, can be constructive. Yes, white guilt is only my burden. I made up the term and everything. Edited August 17, 2012 by Canuckistani Quote
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