Chicken hawks using military for political purposes

[waldo]

You do understand the USS Wisconsin is a museum/convention center now right? You can even book it for graduations........

not quite... the Norfolk Convention Center is about a block away - but nice try! So... you're saying the Norfolk Convention Center was booked... the connecting Marriott was booked? The only backdrop available was the U.S.S. Wisconsin battleship? It was no biggee to fly Romney and Ryan into Norfolk just for the photo-op? Chickenhawks!

http://www.nauticus.org/exhibits/battleship-wisconsin

To add:

http://www.visitnorfolktoday.com/

See that building, right next to the ass end of the Battlewagon.....

yup... except the Nauticus museum is not a convention center... neither it's inside or outside facilities, by any 'Derek L' stretch, constitute a "convention center" - and it's outside facility tucked under it's 3rd floor overhang is not where Romney introduced Ryan as the next President of the U.S.!

if you want you can continue a reach-around the Nauticus museum to include the Half Moone Cruise Celebration Center... but you still won't find your "convention center"... like I said, you've still got to go a block away for that. Looks like your googlies let you down, hey? Chickenhawks!

[Guest Derek L]

yup... except the Nauticus museum is not a convention center... neither it's inside or outside facilities, by any 'Derek L' stretch, constitute a "convention center" - and it's outside facility tucked under it's 3rd floor overhang is not where Romney introduced Ryan as the next President of the U.S.!

if you want you can continue a reach-around the Nauticus museum to include the Half Moone Cruise Celebration Center... but you still won't find your "convention center"... like I said, you've still got to go a block away for that. Looks like your googlies let you down, hey? Chickenhawks!

Ahh, no, Google is letting you down, I've been to the joint in 3-D:

http://www.nauticus.org/museum-rentals/indoor-facilities

All Of Nauticus

You and your guests will have exclusive access to all Nauticus has to offer. Included are hands-on exhibits featuring computer and video interactives; an aquaria section featuring live sharks and other sea creatures; Design Chamber, Battleship X, where you can build a Battleship. Book our beautiful state-of-the art theater for presentations, or to see one of our featured movies.

Capacity: 2,000

Rate: $5,500

Additional Hour Rate: $1,000

http://www.nauticus.org/museum-rentals/battleship-wisconsin-military-ceremonies

The Hampton Roads Naval Museum and the battleship Wisconsin are a popular place for service members to have their reenlistments, commissioning, retirements or other special ceremonies. HRNM offers space in the museum and on the ship at no charge for these official ceremonies. You MUST contact the Hampton Roads Naval Museum at 757-322-3106 or email [email protected] to make arrangements, or if you have questions.

The following guidelines for ceremonies are provided by The Hampton Roads Naval Museum:

[waldo]

http://www.nauticus.org/museum-rentals/indoor-facilities

http://www.nauticus.org/museum-rentals/battleship-wisconsin-military-ceremonies

keep digging that hole of yours! As I said... not a "convention center" as you described. Perhaps you should actually take a step back and ask yourself if Romney introducing Ryan at the steps of the U.S.S. Wisconsin has anything to do with your nattering about the adjacent Nauticus war museum... if Ryan running from the ship and down it's steps has anything to do with your Nauticus natter! Why did they use the battleship backdrop... other than for political purposes... as Chickenhawks!

[Guest Derek L]

keep digging that hole of yours! As I said... not a "convention center" as you described. Perhaps you should actually take a step back and ask yourself if Romney introducing Ryan at the steps of the U.S.S. Wisconsin has anything to do with your nattering about the adjacent Nauticus war museum... if Ryan running from the ship and down it's steps has anything to do with your Nauticus natter! Why did they use the battleship backdrop... other than for political purposes... as Chickenhawks!

Are you contending that the USS Wisconsin can't be rented out for private, special events?

My unedited post:

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=21257&st=30

You do understand the USS Wisconsin is a museum/convention center now right? You can even book it for graduations........

Are you inferring it's an active Warship?

[waldo]

keep digging that hole of yours!

are you inferring... they used the U.S.S. Wisconsin for anything other than for political purposes?

[Guest Derek L]

are you inferring... they used the U.S.S. Wisconsin for anything other than for political purposes?

No, quite the opposite:

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=21257&st=30

Now you say it's a "ploy" to leverage the "military vote" within the United States, and I'll assume you'd also include the Military Industrial Complex in that too……….Funny that they delivered said announcement aboard a retired vessel with tie’s to the candidates home state, moored within a swing state, in a region that will be devastated by Obama defence cuts, both in terms of reductions in military personal levels and the production of the future fleet………..But this has something to do with Romney’s lack of service in Vietnam and as such, he’s required to trick them simple military folk………..I’ll tell you a secret, military folk tend to support Conservative/GOP governments regardless…………Has Obama/Biden made any announcements to the AFL-CIO yet?

[waldo]

are you inferring... they used the U.S.S. Wisconsin for anything other than for political purposes?

No, quite the opposite:

you agree they used the battleship... the U.S.S. Wisconsin for political purposes. We know with certainty Romney did not serve... other than in the French doorstep trenches searching for Mormon converts! Leveraging the military for political purposes... did not serve... actively avoided service! Romney the war hawk!!! Would you like me to quote some of his best, particularly concerning Iran? Chickenhawk!

what's your problem... where's the beef?

[Guest Derek L]

you agree they used the battleship... the U.S.S. Wisconsin for political purposes. We know with certainty Romney did not serve... other than in the French doorstep trenches searching for Mormon converts! Leveraging the military for political purposes... did not serve... actively avoided service! Romney the war hawk!!! Would you like me to quote some of his best, particularly concerning Iran? Chickenhawk!

what's your problem... where's the beef?

Now you say it's a "ploy" to leverage the "military vote" within the United States, and I'll assume you'd also include the Military Industrial Complex in that too……….Funny that they delivered said announcement aboard a retired vessel with tie’s to the candidates home state, moored within a swing state, in a region that will be devastated by Obama defence cuts, both in terms of reductions in military personal levels and the production of the future fleet………..But this has something to do with Romney’s lack of service in Vietnam and as such, he’s required to trick them simple military folk………..I’ll tell you a secret, military folk tend to support Conservative/GOP governments regardless…………Has Obama/Biden made any announcements to the AFL-CIO yet?

[waldo]

what's your problem... where's the beef?

so... you acknowledge/accept the location/battleship was a Romney political prop. You have no reservations with Romney being labeled a "chickenhawk" given his history/positions. Where's the beef? Why were/are you so hot & bothered and showcasing your bluster-bus over something that has no relation/bearing on this thread's OP? Oh right... you're 'Derek L'... "distractor-in-chief"!

[bleeding heart]

Just as a sklight side-note: has everyone here been aware of the magnificently contradictory and bizarre talking point that has erupted against the Democrats--including by "libertarian" tea-partiers and austerity enthusiasts--that military cuts are going to "cost people jobs:, and this is a good reason in and of itself not to make the cuts?

Now, I could spell out the illogic of this argument (the internal, by-their-own-standards illogic, I mean)...but I hope to Godzilla that there's no need.

[Guest Derek L]

so... you acknowledge/accept the location/battleship was a Romney political prop. You have no reservations with Romney being labeled a "chickenhawk" given his history/positions. Where's the beef? Why were/are you so hot & bothered and showcasing your bluster-bus over something that has no relation/bearing on this thread's OP? Oh right... you're 'Derek L'... "distractor-in-chief"!

Clearly my point of contention with the OP was the perceived correlation between Romney/Ryan--Vietnam--Obama/Biden……Unlike ’04, has either sides “service records” been brought up, by either side? Clearly this whole meme of attack, used by either side in the past, but for the purposes of the OP against Romney, is a distraction all and of itself.

[waldo]

Clearly this whole meme of attack, used by either side in the past, but for the purposes of the OP against Romney, is a distraction all and of itself.

no - clearly this whole factual based attack on Romney reflects upon your acknowledged use of the "U.S.S battleship military political prop" and your accepted labeling of Romney as a chickenhawk... your acknowledgment, your acceptance. In the coming campaign weeks, feel free to start up a like thread when you interpret a like affront, from Obama/Biden using a military prop for political purposes, hey?

[Guest Derek L]

no - clearly this whole factual based attack on Romney reflects upon your acknowledged use of the "U.S.S battleship military political prop" and your accepted labeling of Romney as a chickenhawk... your acknowledgment, your acceptance. In the coming campaign weeks, feel free to start up a like thread when you interpret a like affront, from Obama/Biden using a military prop for political purposes, hey?

Are you suggesting that the Obama/Biden camp doesn’t play to their base?

[waldo]

Are you suggesting that the Obama/Biden camp doesn’t play to their base?

like I said, when you interpret a like affront from the Obama/Biden campaign in the coming weeks, start up a like thread... until such time I will leave you, playing in your circle of one!

[punked]

I just want to say when I saw the Romney/Ryan announcement I kept looking for the Mission Accomplished banner. I wonder why they didn't have one?

[waldo]

I just want to say when I saw the Romney/Ryan announcement I kept looking for the Mission Accomplished banner. I wonder why they didn't have one?

oh it was there... you just need the right angle pic to see it! (note: I believe this shows the, ahem... "museum pic" MLW member, 'Derek L', speaks of! (/snarc))

[Shady]

I just want to say when I saw the Romney/Ryan announcement I kept looking for the Mission Accomplished banner. I wonder why they didn't have one?

Good question. How's Obama's tripling the number of troops in Afghanistan going? I heard this month was the bloodiest in quite a while. Mission accomplished!

[punked]

Good question. How's Obama's tripling the number of troops in Afghanistan going? I heard this month was the bloodiest in quite a while. Mission accomplished!

What are you talking about Shady. That is Bush's war as well. I believe in fact Obama is trying to pull out of Afghanistan. I remember who was president when Bin Laden was killed though. Fo Sho

[Guest Derek L]

like I said, when you interpret a like affront from the Obama/Biden campaign in the coming weeks, start up a like thread... until such time I will leave you, playing in your circle of one!

What was Romney/Ryan's affront to your sensibilities?

[Shady]

What was Romney/Ryan's affront to your sensibilities?

That's a great question. Waldo seems to have gotten a serious case of the vapors for some reason.

[BubberMiley]

Those were some serious vapors over Biden's reference to "chains." :shudder:

[Guest Derek L]

Those were some serious vapors over Biden's reference to "chains." :shudder:

I think Biden emits vapors rather well:

[Shady]

I think Biden emits vapors rather well:

It's kind of terrifying that he's just a heartbeat away from being president.

[Guest Derek L]

It's kind of terrifying that he's just a heartbeat away from being president.

I never thought they'd find someone worse then Dan Quayle..........

[Shady]

I never thought they'd find someone worse then Dan Quayle..........

Good point. He makes Dan Quayle look like a rocket scientist!