Obama's campaign caught lying, again.

punked · August 2, 2012

When a president doesn't have a record to run on , they and their surrogates turn to the politics of personal destruction.

Nope the president is running on a record. He is running on his policies vs Romney on tax structure, the economy, and foreign policy.

Racheal Maddow and the Boston Globe is in now connected to the president. She is pointing out that when Rmoney says "Just trust me" on his taxes that he has a history of lying. He said "just trust me" on his taxes in Mass until the Dems took him to court and reviled he was lying and he didn't pay Mass taxes while in Utah (a big no no because of Mass law) thus he was not qualified to run for Governor. Rmoney then said "Oh that was a mistake made by my accountants I actually know nothing about my taxes" so he got in the Romney time a machine and retroactively paid his taxes so he could run for Governor.

Why should we trust him now Shady? Now that we know he has a history of lying about his taxes and has said in court. "He doesn't do his taxes and doesn't know what is in them". Why would anyone take his word on it now?

Shady · August 2, 2012

He's not running on his policies. He's running away from them. They've been a complete failure.

guyser · August 2, 2012

When a president doesn't have a record to run on , they and their surrogates turn to the politics of personal destruction.

When the opposition doesnt have a leg to stand on , the and their surrogates turn to the politics of personal destruction vis a vis the birth certificate issue.

Not to mention, he was CEO betw 99 and 02.

Edited August 2, 2012 by guyser

punked · August 2, 2012

He's not running on his policies. He's running away from them. They've been a complete failure.

No see the President actually has policies. Why Romney can't seem to shake the questions about his past is he refuses to answer questions about his policies will work. Heck the President threw down today about how his policies differ from Romney's and his voodoo. Plus who cares about Rmoney's policies because we all know Rmoney has a history of lying so why would anyone trust him on anything?

Shady · August 2, 2012

No see the President actually has policies. Why Romney can't seem to shake the questions about his past is he refuses to answer questions about his policies will work. Heck the President threw down today about how his policies differ from Romney's and his voodoo. Plus who cares about Rmoney's policies because we all know Rmoney has a history of lying so why would anyone trust him on anything?

Obviously Romney has policies. You may not agree with them. But to say he has no policies is just complete hyperbole. There's no point discussing this any further with you.

punked · August 2, 2012

Obviously Romney has policies. You may not agree with them. But to say he has no policies is just complete hyperbole. There's no point discussing this any further with you.

Got it you don't want to talk about those policies. Like raising taxes on the middle class to pay for tax breaks for the rich. Don't ask me ask Tax Policy Center who Romney quoted as his main source for arguments against Rick Perry and who uses a model created by Greg Mankiw a Romney adviser.

I can see now why you wouldn't want to talk about Romney policies compared to Obama's. You can stop pretending though that Obama isn't running on something because he clearly is. You just expect him to keep his mouth shut so Rmoney can try and walk into the presidency with out a discussion about the differences between them.

When you got nothing to run on. Run on telling you opponent to keep his mouth shut. Right Shady?

Shady · August 2, 2012

Got it you don't want to talk about those policies. Like raising taxes on the middle class to pay for tax breaks for the rich. Don't ask me ask Tax Policy Center who Romney quoted as his main source for arguments against Rick Perry and who uses a model created by Greg Mankiw a Romney adviser.

I can see now why you wouldn't want to talk about Romney policies compared to Obama's. You can stop pretending though that Obama isn't running on something because he clearly is. You just expect him to keep his mouth shut so Rmoney can try and walk into the presidency with out a discussion about the differences between them.

When you got nothing to run on. Run on telling you opponent to keep his mouth shut. Right Shady?

Sure I'll talk about his policies. But just don't say he has none. Like I said, you might disagree with them, but it doesn't mean they don't exist.

punked · August 2, 2012

Sure I'll talk about his policies. But just don't say he has none. Like I said, you might disagree with them, but it doesn't mean they don't exist.

Policy that can't be backed in anyway by anyone and are not based on fact are not policies Shady. They are at best fantasies and at worst out right lies.

Shady · August 2, 2012

Policy that can't be backed in anyway by anyone and are not based on fact are not policies Shady. They are at best fantasies and at worst out right lies.

Im not sure what you're talking about. When you get in this childish mode, it's almost impossible to discuss anything rationally with you. I'll wait till you calm down.

punked · August 2, 2012

Im not sure what you're talking about. When you get in this childish mode, it's almost impossible to discuss anything rationally with you. I'll wait till you calm down.

I am saying that Rmoney has released a tax policy that no one can verify. No one. In fact when simulations are run by Tax Policy Center and former Bush advisers (that should tell you a lot that even Bush advisers can't make it add up) it comes out so that the middle class get up to a 2000 dollar tax hike and the only people who get a cut are the top 5%. That is crazy sauce. I know how much you like the washington post so i linked to their article on it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/02/nine-takeaways-on-romneys-tax-plan/

Shady · August 2, 2012

I am saying that Rmoney has released a tax policy that no one can verify. No one. In fact when simulations are run by Tax Policy Center and former Bush advisers (that should tell you a lot that even Bush advisers can't make it add up) it comes out so that the middle class get up to a 2000 dollar tax hike and the only people who get a cut are the top 5%. That is crazy sauce. I know how much you like the washington post so i linked to their article on it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/02/nine-takeaways-on-romneys-tax-plan/

I agree that he needs to be specific on the deductions he wants to change or eliminate. He better do it by the convention.

punked · August 2, 2012

I agree that he needs to be specific on the deductions he wants to change or eliminate. He better do it by the convention.

He wont. The only way to make his tax plan work is to cut one of three things. Military (he has already attacked Obama for slowing Military spending so there is no way he cuts there unless he does a famous Romney flip flop), Medicare or SS. He can't run on cutting Medicare or SS white older voters is all he has he can't run on that. So his plan is to give no details. Which is why I say he has no policy. Or he has policy and he is hiding it.

Shady · August 3, 2012

He wont. The only way to make his tax plan work is to cut one of three things. Military (he has already attacked Obama for slowing Military spending so there is no way he cuts there unless he does a famous Romney flip flop), Medicare or SS. He can't run on cutting Medicare or SS white older voters is all he has he can't run on that. So his plan is to give no details. Which is why I say he has no policy. Or he has policy and he is hiding it.

Actually he is running on social security and Medicare reform. It doesn't touch anyone on those programs or even close to using those programs. Although Obama has done a good job lying about that too. You've probably fell for it.

GostHacked · August 3, 2012

Actually he is running on social security and Medicare reform. It doesn't touch anyone on those programs or even close to using those programs. Although Obama has done a good job lying about that too. You've probably fell for it.

I await the day when Romney falls because of promises he can't keep, and you will still be apologetic towards it. Because the system won't allow him to carry out certain policies. The government will change the policies to fit Romney's agenda only if they don't go against the overall long standing foreign policies of the country. Bush and Obama were no different. And the thing with Cheney is that he actually accelerated their overall plans of foreign policy. His policies matched the long standing ones. Applause, champagne and money to start more wars while people at home are starving, sleeping on the streets, can't afford decent health care or education, while the corporations rape everything in site and returning vets get treated like disposable/replaceable parts in a war machine.

Shady · August 3, 2012

I await the day when Romney falls because of promises he can't keep, and you will still be apologetic towards it. Because the system won't allow him to carry out certain policies. The government will change the policies to fit Romney's agenda only if they don't go against the overall long standing foreign policies of the country. Bush and Obama were no different. And the thing with Cheney is that he actually accelerated their overall plans of foreign policy. His policies matched the long standing ones. Applause, champagne and money to start more wars while people at home are starving, sleeping on the streets, can't afford decent health care or education, while the corporations rape everything in site and returning vets get treated like disposable/replaceable parts in a war machine.

Already rooting against him huh? That's fine. We shall see.

cybercoma · August 5, 2012

Apparently Romney claimed on FB today that Obama was disenfranchising the military with a lawsuit in Ohio. Even FOX is calling Romney a liar, saying his claim is not true:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/04/obama-campaign-sues-ohio-over-early-voting-law-for-military/#ixzz22bqw859E

Bonam · August 5, 2012

Applause, champagne and money to start more wars while people at home are starving, sleeping on the streets, can't afford decent health care or education, while the corporations rape everything in site and returning vets get treated like disposable/replaceable parts in a war machine.

Overdramatize much?

GostHacked · August 5, 2012

Already rooting against him huh? That's fine. We shall see.

I am not rooting against him, Romney will face the same challenges as Obama if his policies go against that of the standing foreign and other policies of the country. It's called reality.

GostHacked · August 5, 2012

Overdramatize much?

Prove me wrong?

Shady · August 5, 2012

Prove me wrong?

You want him to prove a nonsensical rant full of platitudes wrong?

BubberMiley · August 5, 2012

You want him to prove a nonsensical rant full of platitudes wrong?

You don't know what a platitude is, do you?

Shady · August 9, 2012

Anybody else see the new low of the Obama campaign? They have a video add asserting that Romney is to blame for somebody dying of cancer. Have you no shame Mr. President?

bleeding heart · August 9, 2012

I am not rooting against him, Romney will face the same challenges as Obama if his policies go against that of the standing foreign and other policies of the country. It's called reality.

I agree. The "hope and change" thing really was a farce, as the Republicans were charging (though some people forget that the McCain/Palin "Maverick" campaign theme was fundamentally the same platitudinous attempt. No fundamental difference in emotive strategy).

There are institutional factors that rule the day. An administration can make some changes--good or bad--in the margins, with the use of terrific will. But that's about it.

waldo · August 9, 2012

Anybody else see the new low of the Obama campaign? They have a video add asserting that Romney is to blame for somebody dying of cancer. Have you no shame Mr. President?

Shady Fail: not from the Obama campaign... from a non-associated SuperPac. Shady, step up and offer a wannabe embrace to Citizens United... sure you can! Care to attempt to refute the impact Romney's Bain Capital had on individuals losing their jobs and associated health care.

while you're doing that make sure to comment on an actual official purposely false Romney campaign ad - the one where the Romney campaign falsely claims Obama is 'gutting welfare reform':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPIDbf4INro#!

Shady · August 9, 2012

Shady Fail: not from the Obama campaign... from a non-associated SuperPac.

Yes, a non-associated SuperPac, headed by Obama's former Deputy Secratary Bill Burton. :rolleyes:

However, it gets even better. Obama's campaign manager denied knowing the details of the man featured in the SuperPac ad. The only problem? She hosted a conference call in May with the same man, about the same topic. He was even featured in two of their ads. Doh! :lol:

Team Obama denies knowing story of man in its TV ad, call
When President Obama’s aides said they weren’t familiar with former Missouri steelworker Joe Soptic’s life story, all they had to do was check their own campaign archives.

Soptic, laid off from Bain Capital-owned GST Steel, stars in a Priorities USA Action spot this week in which he tells of how his wife died without health insurance after he lost his job. Soptic also appeared, wearing what appears to be an identical shirt, in a May television ad for the Obama campaign.

Asked about the Priorities spot on MSNBC Wednesday morning, Robert Gibbs said he doesn’t “know the specifics” while Stephanie Cutter said on CNN: “I don’t know the facts about when Mr. Soptic’s wife got sick or the facts about his health insurance.”

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And Jen Psaki told reporters on Air Force One that “we don't' have any knowledge of the story of the family,” according to Yahoo! News.

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But Cutter hosted an Obama campaign conference call in May in which Soptic told reporters the very story featured in the Priorities spo.t

Politico

So once again, I guess now for the third time, or maybe it's the forth time. The Obama campaign has been completely caught lying through their teeth. Heckuva job guys! :lol: