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guyser · July 6, 2012

You are 100% wrong.

Ok junior, you call the CEO of J Crew and tell him....k ? :lol:

Petulant little kids these days.

kraychik · July 6, 2012

So the Canadian retailer...can't? Why?

This is obviously because of greater economic liberty in America. The government creates less inefficiencies in America than in Canada.

Although it does seem pretty clear to me that guyser intended to type, "...because the Canadian retailer can."

bush_cheney2004 · July 6, 2012

So obviously they find it cheaper to go that route than building up the infrastructure themselves. Saves money.

...different outcomes. Not always same or better.

Canadians of means cross the border, refusing to patriotically wait in a long queue.

kraychik · July 6, 2012

Ok junior, you call the CEO of J Crew and tell him....k ?

Petulant little kids these days.

I don't care what the CEO of J Crew might have said. The argument holds no water.

BubberMiley · July 6, 2012

You mean like how he repealed and replaced RomneyCare which is pretty similar?

He's already said he would keep the protection for those with pre-existing conditions. He's said he would work to include young adults under their parents' plans. He said he would work to keep drug prices low. All he would give up is the individual mandate he was originally in favour of because...that's what pays for the whole thing.

Typical Republican, I guess. Increase costs while eliminating the revenue sources.

bush_cheney2004 · July 6, 2012

This is obviously because of greater economic liberty in America. The government creates less inefficiencies in America than in Canada.

Although it does seem pretty clear to me that guyser intended to type, "...because the Canadian retailer can."

Either way, why do Canadians beat themselves up over this cost/price disparity?

I don't worry about the cost of a bicycle in China.

kraychik · July 6, 2012

He's already said he would keep the protection for those with pre-existing conditions. He's said he would work to include young adults under their parents' plans. He said he would work to keep drug prices low. All he would give up is the individual mandate he was originally in favour of because...that's what pays for the whole thing.

Typical Republican, I guess. Increase costs while eliminating the revenue sources.

If Romney loses, it'll be because he didn't have the courage to oppose these ridiculous measures. Plenty of Americans are smart enough to realize that you can't just legislate goods and services into existence with the stroke of a pen. Forcing insurance companies to absorb losses in the form of denying them the ability to screen applicants for insurance based on pre-existing conditions and obligating them to extend insurance to children up to the age of twenty-eight is socialistic fantasy. The insurance companies will either go bankrupt or shift these costs to all other stakeholders in the form of increased premiums and deductibles and lower salaries for their employees. There's no such thing as a free lunch. Romney's clueless advisers are clearly telling him to be a leftist on these details, and it may cost him the election.

kraychik · July 6, 2012

Either way, why do Canadians beat themselves up over this cost/price disparity?

I don't worry about the cost of a bicycle in China.

The problem is because Canadians are paying more for the same products and services from the same retailers. Compare costco.com and costco.ca, or walmart.com and walmart.ca. It's frustrating to know that you have to pay ten to twenty percent more simply because of failing socialistic policies (regulations, licensing fees, taxation, etc). The standard of living in Canada in financial terms is lower than in America for preventable reasons.

bush_cheney2004 · July 6, 2012

The problem is because Canadians are paying more for the same products and services from the same retailers. Compare costco.com and costco.ca, or walmart.com and walmart.ca. It's frustrating to know that you have to pay ten to twenty percent more simply because of failing socialistic policies (regulations, licensing fees, taxation, etc). The standard of living in Canada in financial terms is lower than in America for preventable reasons.

OK....I get it...but still, WalMart in China is cheaper than in the USA. It worries me not.

Isn't it offset by the comfort of knowing that ALL Canadians have access to long (but "free") health care services?

kraychik · July 6, 2012

OK....I get it...but still, WalMart in China is cheaper than in the USA. It worries me not.

Isn't it offset by the comfort of knowing that ALL Canadians have access to long (but "free") health care services?

Actually, yes. That does somewhat offset it. But the average income in China is so much lower than in the USA, whereas Canada's average income is only a little lower than that in the USA, yet things cost more in Canada. Paying higher prices for almost everything isn't something that Canada should be proud of, and isn't something sane Canadians enjoy doing.

bush_cheney2004 · July 6, 2012

Actually, yes. That does somewhat offset it. But the average income in China is so much lower than in the USA, whereas Canada's average income is only a little lower than that in the USA, yet things cost more in Canada. Paying higher prices for almost everything isn't something that Canada should be proud of, and isn't something sane Canadians enjoy doing.

So you mean that throughout a Canadian's entire life, he or she is tormented in the knowledge that just across the border, a king-size package of Peanut M&M's costs less? Or a Ford F-150? Or maybe an Apple iPhone 4S?

kraychik · July 6, 2012

So you mean that throughout a Canadian's entire life, he or she is tormented in the knowledge that just across the border, a king-size package of Peanut M&M's costs less? Or a Ford F-150? Or maybe an Apple iPhone 4S?

I think it's a sort of one-a-week hour-ish depression. For some people it's only once a month. It gets better as you get older and spend more time in the hospital.

bush_cheney2004 · July 6, 2012

I think it's a sort of one-a-week hour-ish depression. For some people it's only once a month. It gets better as you get older and spend more time in the hospital.

Thanks....that's explains it. We get the usual America bashing around here but then they want to bitch about lower prices across the border. Makes perfectly good sense to me!

kraychik · July 6, 2012

Thanks....that's explains it. We get the usual America bashing around here but then they want to bitch about lower prices across the border. Makes perfectly good sense to me!

Hating America is how the Canadian left defines its national identity. It still wins points among the left in Canada.

We have a socialistic party in Canada known as the NDP, who you may be familiar with. Well, their friendly dictator Jack Layton recently died and they needed to select a new leader (he didn't have a son). So during their intra-party campaign one of their top candidates, then 29-year-old Catherine Ashton, accused the now leader of the NDP Thomas Mulcair of "American-style dirty tricks" (whatever that means). This type of anti-American rhetoric gives the Canadian left paroxysms of ecstasy.

This same anti-American leftist bait was used by America-hater NDP MP Pat Martin, accusing the Conservative Party of "importing American-style dirty tricks" in a false scandal which ironically ended up implicating his own party once an investigation took place.

http://www.hilltimes.com/news/politics/2012/02/28/tories-imported-american-style-dirty-tricks-and-now-theyre-getting-caught-says/29764

Hating America is the favourite pastime of the Canadian left, second only to removing the keeping of scores from sports leagues for young people so that there will be no winners or losers at the end of the soccer match.

guyser · July 6, 2012

Hating America is how the Canadian left defines its national identity. It still wins points among the left in Canada.

Hating America is the favourite pastime of the Canadian left, second only to removing the keeping of scores from sports leagues for young people so that there will be no winners or losers at the end of the soccer match.

:lol: :lol: castigating an entire group from the rantings of few far left loonies,arent you special there buttercup.

bleeding heart · July 6, 2012

castigating an entire group from the rantings of few far left loonies,arent you special there buttercup.

Little fella hasn't been here long enough to witness the "America-bashing" from a few of our long-term righties, either.

bush_cheney2004 · July 6, 2012

We have a socialistic party in Canada known as the NDP, who you may be familiar with. Well, their friendly dictator Jack Layton recently died and they needed to select a new leader (he didn't have a son).

LOL! That's pretty funny...welcome to the fun that is MLW.

Hating America is the favourite pastime of the Canadian left, second only to removing the keeping of scores from sports leagues for young people so that there will be no winners or losers at the end of the soccer match.

No wonder PM Harper got a majority.

bush_cheney2004 · July 6, 2012

castigating an entire group from the rantings of few far left loonies,arent you special there buttercup.

No...no..it does make sense. Like President Bush said, some Canadians hate us for our freedoms lower prices.

kraychik · July 6, 2012

castigating an entire group from the rantings of few far left loonies,arent you special there buttercup.

Hating America is a staple of the Canadian left. And it's crawled all the way up the food chain to our highest elected officials. It's not uncommon, in fact it's quite common. It comes from politicians like Libby Davies (who is also a vocal apologist for Hamas, Hezbollah, and other mass-murdering terrorist outfits), Carolyn Parrish, and goes all the way down to the white trash at pee-wee hockey tournaments who burn the American flag when playing an American team in Quebec. Anti-Americanism is rampant in Canada among the left.

Edited July 6, 2012 by kraychik

guyser · July 6, 2012

. Anti-Americanism is rampant in Canada among the left.

As much as you wish it was, sadly, those of us who open our eyes, know the truth is anything but.

Does it exist? Sure, does Anti-Canuk people exist? Sure.

Silly really.

kraychik · July 6, 2012

As much as you wish it was, sadly, those of us who open our eyes, know the truth is anything but.

Does it exist? Sure, does Anti-Canuk people exist? Sure.

Silly really.

There is no parallel of anti-Canadian sentiment in America. American politicians do not score points by insulting Canada and appealing to a non-existent insecurity complex among the American electorate. American thought-leaders don't throw anti-Canadian rhetorical bait to salivating Americans. The contest for which country harbours a greater degree of ill-will towards the other is won, hands down, by Canada. Thanks to the Canadian left, of course.

bleeding heart · July 6, 2012

and goes all the way down to the white trash at pee-wee hockey tournaments who burn the American flag when playing an American team in Quebec. Anti-Americanism is rampant in Canada among the left.

Yeah, those far-left radicals in pee-wee hockey.

...and: "white trash," eh? The elitist goes for unusually early exposure, I see.

kraychik · July 6, 2012

Yeah, those far-left radicals in pee-wee hockey.

...and: "white trash," eh? The elitist goes for unusually early exposure, I see.

Who else but white trash would burn an American flag to insult American juniors playing hockey in a pee-wee leg in Quebec? When a group of adults does such a thing, do they warrant the label of "trash", or not?

guyser · July 6, 2012

American politicians do not score points by insulting Canada

:lol: figured, you are very young.

Grasshopper, come back when you are a bit older and wiser.

ETA- maybe not for points, maybe just for shits and giggles, or to blame someone, anyone. But, always have , always will. Both sides

Edited July 6, 2012 by guyser

guyser · July 6, 2012

Who else but white trash would burn an American flag to insult American juniors playing hockey in a pee-wee leg in Quebec? When a group of adults does such a thing, do they warrant the label of "trash", or not?

Maybe they were disposing of an old American flag and followed proper procedure?