human rights watch report on syria and the state department

[bud]

I didn't tell you how to think. I know what you think. My comment was in regards to what you think.

i'm going to ask you to pay attention to what you read and how you respond. i said: don't tell me how i think. a little homage to your outbursts whenever i remind you what kind of a person you are and what your intentions are.

IOW, think the way you do. Don't see that happening. Unless I get hit on the head and suffer brain damage resulting in an inability to think clearly. As they say, never say never.

ah, right. please leave the comedy routines to people who are funny.

tell me when you're able to be honest about israel's intentions just like bc2004.

[bud]

and of course, how convenient has it become for american woman to avoid discussion on things she cannot apologize for (or has no clue about)? easy, just don't respond to them and instead make head injury comments and then count on one of the semi-literates to follow it up with a lower standard comment.

what american woman doesn't want to talk about:

You want me to agree with your claim, then you agree that the Arab world/Palestine want to wipe Israel off the map. Deal?

the palestinian government accepts israel and are willing to accept borders based on the 1967 border. in 1993, arafat signed a declarations and all of their negotiations are based on that. what the extremists on the palestinian side say is not the stance of the palestinian government for over 20 years.

where is the israeli government's acceptance of a palestinian state? why do they continue to annex more land? why do they continue to drag their feet? likud has even vowed to never allow a palestinian state. so tell me if you're going to be honest about israel.

here is something you won't hear about in the mainstream in north america:

Defense Ministry hires architect to resume construction of illegal West Bank outpost

Givat Sal'it is one of 26 communities the Sharon government had promised the United States it would tear down nearly 10 years ago.

link

yes, the always expanding settlements that continue to eat away at palestinian land the longer israel stalls and drags its feet.

interesting comment on obama:

In the early days of Netanyahu's current government, Defense Minister Ehud Barak said in a statement that it was necessary to keep Sharon's commitment to tear down the 26 outposts. But defense officials say the Obama administration has lost interest in these commitments and as far as the U.S. president is concerned, there is no difference between an outpost and a settlement.

[kraychik]

I am not on the left, nor the right. Not all Jews are inextricably linked, because there are Jews living abroad that want nothing to do with Israel. And what of the Jews that are anti-zionist, how are they treated? What of the Israeli's within Israel protesting Zionism? What do you say to them?

If you wan to lump them all in the same category then that would only do a disservice to Jews on the whole.

I didn't say all Jews are inextricably linked, did I?

What I said is that Israel and the Jewish people are inextricably linked. Many things have such overlap, while still not being one in the same. Nationalism and culture, Canada and English, religion and tradition, and Israel and the Jews.

It looks like you're trying to shield yourself from being labelled an anti-Semite by describing yourself as an anti-Zionist and then pointing other anti-Zionist Jews for reinforcement.

[bush_cheney2004]

yes, the always expanding settlements that continue to eat away at palestinian land the longer israel stalls and drags its feet.

So what? It is the logical thing to do when faced with an existential threat. Also makes for nice bargaining chips should the Palestinians and "friends" ever abandon the failed strategy of the past 50 years.

interesting comment on obama:

Yep...that would be the current U.S. president, same as the other U.S. presidents when it comes to defending Israel. Like I told you before, son, you gotta deal with Uncle Sam to rain on Israel's parade.

[kraychik]

No such thing as "Palestinian land", anyways. Moreover, the entire national identity of "Palestinianism" can be redefined as "anti-Zionism". The entire "Palestinian" identity is a farce and only perpetuated by the historically ignorant that believe they represent some sort of "distinct society".

Newt Gingrich nailed it when he said the "Palestinians" were an "invented people".

[bush_cheney2004]

No such thing as "Palestinian land", anyways.

Nobody has the right to any land...just the right to defend possession. Israel does this remarkably well for such a tiny nation in a tough neighbourhood.

[kraychik]

Nobody has the right to any land...just the right to defend possession. Israel does this remarkably well for such a tiny nation in a tough neighbourhood.

I agree, ownership will be determined by force. The moment Israel loses its ability to defend itself, it'll lose its land. "Rights" mean nothing if you can't enforce them. Realpolitik, I guess.

[bud]

I agree, ownership will be determined by force.

music to hitler's ears.

perhaps you should make an effort to create a time machine to go back in time when there were no laws and this sort of thinking and mentality was accepted by the savages.

[bush_cheney2004]

music to hitler's ears.

perhaps you should make an effort to create a time machine to go back in time when there were no laws and this sort of thinking and mentality was accepted by the savages.

But what about diversity and multiculturalism...hmmmmmmmmmm?

[GostHacked]

I didn't say all Jews are inextricably linked, did I?

Yes, yes you did. Unless you want to clarify the following.

Israel and the Jewish people are inextricably linked. This isn't news. It is the anti-Semites who think they can hide their hatred of Jews by describing themselves as "anti-Zionists", which is totally a la mode these days among the left.

It looks like you're trying to shield yourself from being labelled an anti-Semite by describing yourself as an anti-Zionist and then pointing other anti-Zionist Jews for reinforcement.

I am not anti-semite, as I have nothing against Jews. I could be considered anti-zionist, because I don't support many of Israel's past actions. But not understanding and at the least knowing that there is a different between a Jew and Israeli and a Zionist, will do you more harm than good in the long run.

If you want to label me as anti-zionist, I am ok with that. But don't call me a jew hater.

No such thing as "Palestinian land", anyways. Moreover, the entire national identity of "Palestinianism" can be redefined as "anti-Zionism". The entire "Palestinian" identity is a farce and only perpetuated by the historically ignorant that believe they represent some sort of "distinct society".

Newt Gingrich nailed it when he said the "Palestinians" were an "invented people".

Your posting style is familiar now. New alias perhaps? Forgive my presumptions if that is not the case.

[Guest American Woman]

i'm going to ask you to pay attention to what you read and how you respond. i said: don't tell me how i think. a little homage to your outbursts whenever i remind you what kind of a person you are and what your intentions are.

Ummmm. I didn't tell you how you think, either, nor did I do any of the things you admit to doing to me.

ah, right. please leave the comedy routines to people who are funny.

I wasn't trying to be funny. I was serious.

tell me when you're able to be honest about israel's intentions just like bc2004.

You can badger me from here to eternity, but your bullying will not change my viewpoint.

[Rue]

Above post truncated for brevity, but the essence lingers on.

I enjoyed that. However given the target, I expect as analogous the response will be..""Disproportionate Jewish response'! U. N. complaint filed.I demand sanctions.. "

Of course Jewish will have no cap.

I want you to know I restrained myself from further comments Peeves because I have no doubt you and American Woman do not need my defence dealing with this putz. I do appreciate both your responses to this annoyance. As you can see he is a one trick pony trying to incite and fuel hatred against Jews, Christians, Israelis and Americans and likes to bait and insult.

Regards

Hebrew meanyZionbotJewIsraelsupporterfriendofAmericaandChristianbiblethumperwhateverotherchildishcommentcomestofruitionfromtheBuddyboy

[bud]

Ummmm. I didn't tell you how you think, either, nor did I do any of the things you admit to doing to me.

I wasn't trying to be funny. I was serious.

You can badger me from here to eternity, but your bullying will not change my viewpoint.

you pressed reply, but you've typed more fluff. why can't you be an honest person when dealing with israel?

onto the realities of the rogue state that zionbots don't like to talk about:

The panel, headed by retired Supreme Court Justice Edmond Levy, made far-reaching recommendations that disregard Israeli obligations toward Palestinians in the West Bank under international humanitarian and human rights law, Human Rights Watch said. The panel issued its report on July 9, 2012.

“The Levy report wants to eliminate Israel’s obligations under international law in the West Bank with the stroke of a pen,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. “But Israel cannot wish away its obligations under the law of occupation, or make its duty to respect Palestinians’ human rights disappear.”

link

Edited July 23, 2012 by bud

[DogOnPorch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvTejpelcRI

Hamas MP Sheik Yunis Al-Astal: Allah Punished the Jews throughout History and Will Use the Islamic Nation to Punish Them Again
Al-Aqsa TV (Hamas/Gaza) - June 20, 2012

[Guest American Woman]

you pressed reply, but you've typed more fluff. why can't you be an honest person when dealing with israel?

In other words, why can't I agree with you, eh? Why can't I spew your agenda ad nauseam?

Not going to happen. In fact, the more you post, the stronger my support of Israel.

[DogOnPorch]

In other words, why can't I agree with you, eh? Why can't I spew your agenda ad nauseam?

Not going to happen. In fact, the more you post, the stronger my support of Israel.

Who could agree or side with a fellow like al-Astal? Oh...right.

[bud]

In other words, why can't I agree with you, eh? Why can't I spew your agenda ad nauseam?

Not going to happen. In fact, the more you post, the stronger my support of Israel.

the more i post, the more you turn into a rabid zealot who blindly supports a state that oppresses another group of people? alright, enjoy being you, zionbot.

[Guest American Woman]

the more i post, the more you turn into a rabid zealot who blindly supports a state that oppresses another group of people?

The more you spew your agenda, the more I realize how much Israel needs support.

enjoy being you,

I always enjoy being me, you can count on it.

zionbot.

This is hilarious coming from someone whose sole purpose in life appears to be slamming Israel at every opportunity.

[bud]

The more you spew your agenda, the more I realize how much Israel needs support.

my agenda is human rights and justice. it's too bad that you're not for such a thing.

this is theme with all zionbots.

[Guest American Woman]

my agenda is human rights and justice.

Ummm. Yeah. Sure it is.

this is theme with all zionbots.

This is hilarious coming from someone whose sole purpose in life appears to be slamming Israel at every opportunity.

[bud]

Ummm. Yeah. Sure it is.

um. yeah. it is. like, totally. *hair flick*

This is hilarious coming from someone whose sole purpose in life appears to be slamming Israel at every opportunity.

i slam israel's violation of human rights. why do you have a problem with slamming violation of human rights? why are you okay with being a zionist which is equivalent to being a supporter of a racist ideology and a supporter of human rights violators? stop being a bad person.

[DogOnPorch]

lol...bad, bad, AW. Stop being so bad.

[Guest American Woman]

lol...bad, bad, AW. Stop being so bad.

I'll have to see what I can do about that - right after I stop laughing at the image of bud flicking his hair. In other words, not any time soon ....

[bud]

I'll have to see what I can do about that - right after I stop laughing at the image of bud flicking his hair. In other words, not any time soon ....

by not condemning israel's violations of human rights, it means that you are okay with israel's violation of human rights.

typical zionbot.

[Guest American Woman]

by not condemning israel's violations of human rights, it means that you are okay with israel's violation of human rights.

typical zionbot.

You really need to get a new shtick; this one is beyond stale.