Shooting at the Eaton Centre

[GostHacked]

You think banning crime is a stupid idea?

Crime IS banned, but crime still exists. Why?

[waldo]

Crime IS banned, but crime still exists. Why?

according to MLW member, 'Derek L',... it must be due to the bail system... "denied bail is a judgement based on possible future guilt"... er... no, wait... "granted bail is a judgement based on possible future innocence"... er... no, wait...

just get rid of the bail system! Hey now, I understand Harper Conservatives are building a prison industry... perfect!

[GostHacked]

OH this seems like a plausible solution to the problem ..

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120614/vaughn-calls-for-bullet-ban-120614/20120614?hub=TorontoNewHome

"The hope here is that if we make it harder to get bullets, fewer will be flying through the city and everything from police officers' lives, to suicide prevention, to some of the shootings we've seen in public spaces will be that much harder to occur in places like Toronto," he said.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAh

[Guest Manny]

OH this seems like a plausible solution to the problem ..

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120614/vaughn-calls-for-bullet-ban-120614/20120614?hub=TorontoNewHome

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAh

Or we can just start handing out guns and ammo at public events. Let's see the effect that has.

[Guest Derek L]

Crime IS banned, but crime still exists. Why?

You don’t follow the logic? If Toronto bans guns from within the city, no more gun crime will happen correct? I say take it a step further and ban all forms of crime across Canada

Edited June 15, 2012 by Derek L

[gunrutz]

Or we can just start handing out guns and ammo at public events. Let's see the effect that has.

Of course no one has ever proposed that, that would be the difference between the reality of the banning-wrap everyone in bubble wrap and it will be all ok crowd, and the unreality of red herrings such as the one you proposed above.

[Guest Manny]

Of course no one has ever proposed that, that would be the difference between the reality of the banning-wrap everyone in bubble wrap and it will be all ok crowd, and the unreality of red herrings such as the one you proposed above.

It's an equal and opposite red herring. Stinks just as bad. Point is, the outcome is virtually certain.

[gunrutz]

It's an equal and opposite red herring. Stinks just as bad. Point is, the outcome is virtually certain.

No, there is no comparison between suggesting we give everyone guns and ammunition and suggesting we ban bullets in Toronto to prevent shootings. The first is ridiculous, and has never been suggested, the second has been suggested, is impossible and couldn't possibly have any impact on crime. One is unreality, the other while inane is in fact being suggested, equally stupid, but only one of those is actually being considered. In this case the truth, or reality, is stranger than the fiction, because the fiction you suggested will not ever happen, you're creating a fallacy while deflecting away from the reality that some idiot Councillor in Toronto thinks its possible to remove bullets from the city.

He is ridiculously wrong, i hope you can see that.

[Guest Manny]

He is ridiculously wrong, i hope you can see that.

I say it's worth a try, even if it cannot be made to work perfectly. It's the same as prohibition, no better no worse. But at least an attempt at keeping down violence done in the heat of passion.

The criminals, they will always do whatever they do. Hell the cops don't even really go after them. Too dangerous.