How fair is the student protest?

[Wilber]

If there is a such a mass exodus of students from Quebec, it's Charest's problem. The unnerving violence in the streets is the police beating on students. I can understand parents not wanting to risk that. They should speak to Charest about negotiating a peaceful resolution rather than escalating the violence as he has.

Good luck with that. Those people are interested in getting their kids educated, not fighting Quebec's political battles. The big buck tuitions paid by out of province students that subsidize the locals will avoid the place like the plague.

[Rick]

Good luck with that. Those people are interested in getting their kids educated, not fighting Quebec's political battles. The big buck tuitions paid by out of province students that subsidize the locals will avoid the place like the plague.

I'm sure the Quebecois won't mind if there's less right wing swine wandering the hallowed halls of their Universities.

[Wilber]

I'm sure the Quebecois won't mind if there's less right wing swine wandering the hallowed halls of their Universities.

And none of those right wing swine will care.

[punked]

Good luck with that. Those people are interested in getting their kids educated, not fighting Quebec's political battles. The big buck tuitions paid by out of province students that subsidize the locals will avoid the place like the plague.

The Quebec government subsides those out of province students as well. Less students means the government will be saving money.

[Wilber]

The Quebec government subsides those out of province students as well. Less students means the government will be saving money.

Then the place really is screwed up.

[punked]

Then the place really is screwed up.

All governments in Canada subsides tuition for Canadian students. It is why all universities are public.

Edited May 20, 2012 by punked

[Rick]

Support for the students is growing...

In New York, members of the Montreal-based rock band Arcade Fire wore the movement's iconic red squares during an appearance with The Rolling Stones' Mick Jagger on Saturday Night Live. Jagger wore a red shirt, but no red square.

A day earlier, players in Quebec's film industry were sporting them at the Cannes Film Festival. http://www.globalnews.ca/fire+barricades+and+a+rolling+stone+quebec+protests+make+waves/6442644898/story.html

[Wilber]

All governments in Canada subsides tuition for Canadian students. It is why all universities are public.

How many foreign students do you think will pay big bucks to get involved in this mess?

[Signals.Cpl]

Support for the students is growing...

yeah that must be it.

[Signals.Cpl]

I'm sure the Quebecois won't mind if there's less right wing swine wandering the hallowed halls of their Universities.

The NDP swine can have the place all for themselves.

[Rick]

yeah that must be it.

Actually yes, it is.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/Ontario+students+want+join+Quebec+student+strike/6650352/story.html

[Signals.Cpl]

Actually yes, it is.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/Ontario+students+want+join+Quebec+student+strike/6650352/story.html

And its 200 signatures out of what? Half a million post secondary? More?

The protestors sure have my sympathy...

Groups of protesters built pyres from plastic traffic cones and construction materials, setting them ablaze in the middle of an intersection in a popular nightclub district.

He also noted that officers recovered a bag containing several Molotov cocktails before they could be used.

MY all time favourite

Turns out the growing support doesn't exist, it only appears that support is growing simply because they are the loudest while the majority who are tired of them want it over.

Edited May 20, 2012 by Signals.Cpl

[jacee]

MY all time favourite

Foaming at the mouth ... This is good!

Con lunacy revealed ...

[Signals.Cpl]

Foaming at the mouth ... This is good!

Con lunacy revealed ...

Glad I can help, its great that you informed me of your particular reasons to argue, now I don't have to take you serious, not that I took you seriously before but now it just seems that you want to piss of people rather then discuss issues... If thats the NDP way then god help us.

[bleeding heart]

Foaming at the mouth ... This is good!

Con lunacy revealed ...

Interestingly, after Wente's screed is almost finished, she quotes a student:

People in the rest of Canada simply cannot understand why so many students would get so worked up over such moderate tuition hikes, which would still leave them with the lowest tuition in North America. Part of the answer is the entitlement mentality. But to the protesters, tuition hikes are just a small part of the enormous oppression and injustice inflicted by the rapacious capitalist state. As one student told journalist Marianne Ackerman, “Governments are completely saturated by neo-liberal ideology, disconnected from the public interest. These protests – like others around the world – are about showing there’s a limit to how far the state can go to protect capitalist interests at the expense of the people.”

.....and then goes on as before, as if the words she herself quoted didn't exist.

It's one thing to disagree, of course; but Wente has no argument, and presumably only included her thesis-busting non sequiter in some last-minute, ill-conceived attrempt to show "balance."

Address the arguments...or continue with your outraged polemics. Wente doesn't like arguments.

[jacee]

Interestingly, after Wente's screed is almost finished, she quotes a student:

.....and then goes on as before, as if the words she herself quoted didn't exist.

It's one thing to disagree, of course; but Wente has no argument, and presumably only included her thesis-busting non sequiter in some last-minute, ill-conceived attrempt to show "balance."

Address the arguments...or continue with your outraged polemics. Wente doesn't like arguments.

I particularly like this one ...

And we've had it.

As if we're supposed to care ...

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, THEN YOU WIN!"

[Rick]

Wente can't even get her own stories straight..

She's a pathetic right wing hack.

http://mediaculpapost.blogspot.ca/2012/05/meet-margaret-wentes-quebec-student.html

[bleeding heart]

Wente can't even get her own stories straight..

She's a pathetic right wing hack.

http://mediaculpapost.blogspot.ca/2012/05/meet-margaret-wentes-quebec-student.html

Nice catch.

[Signals.Cpl]

I particularly like this one ...

And we've had it.

As if we're supposed to care ...

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, THEN YOU WIN!"

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, THEN THE REST OF CANADA STOPS FUNDING YOUR PROVINCE"

[Peter F]

You could possibly (about one in a million chance) if the cause of the protest had ANY justice.

The "silverspoon fed" students involved in this idiocy have by far, (far lower than Alberta) lower tuition than other Canadian post secondary schools making the protest a mockery of sensibility.

certainly makes a mockery of albertans sensibility thats for sure

[jacee]

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, THEN THE REST OF CANADA STOPS FUNDING YOUR PROVINCE"

You don't speak for the "rest of Canada".

The "rest of Canada" is not anti-Quebec.

Only a small minority of hard-right-wing extremists ... currently identifiable BY THE LINE OF FOAM AROUND THEIR MOUTHS.

Cops fighting their way to the beer taps pepper spray partiers on patios

Edited May 20, 2012 by jacee

[Wilber]

You don't speak for the "rest of Canada".

The "rest of Canada" is not anti-Quebec.

Only a small minority of hard-right-wing extremists ... currently identifiable BY THE LINE OF FOAM AROUND THEIR MOUTHS.

Cops fighting their way to the beer taps pepper spray partiers on patios

Not anti Quebec but I wonder how interested they are in helping Quebec students get an education for a quarter of what it costs for their own kids. Plenty of spittle on your mirror I'm thinkin.

[jacee]

Not anti Quebec but I wonder how interested they are in helping Quebec students get an education for a quarter of what it costs for their own kids.

Well I guess they'd better hit the streets and do something to change that.

Moaning at Quebec is hardly a solution to their problem.

Edited May 20, 2012 by jacee

[jacee]

More on the patio incident ...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/05/20/quebec-student-protest-pepper-spray-people-on-a-bar-patio.html

Another video from a local TV station shows the officers took action after one was hit by a chair that someone threw. The chair was then flung back toward the patio.

"About one foot from the faces of my clients, police also threw this," said bar owner Martin Guimond, holding up an empty muzzle blast.

"They created panic, they destroyed the terrace and people scrambled inside, throwing themselves over each other. Everyone left without paying.

" A waitress told him to call 911, then said, "But wait, it's the police that are doing this," Guimond recounted."

Ok so somebody threw a chair at a cop ... not cool ... but the cops endangered everyone on the patio and in the bar and caused damage and loss of business.

Out of control, unprofessional, incompetent ... misconduct.

[Wilber]

Well I guess they'd better hit the streets and do something to change that.

Moaning at Quebec is hardly a solution to their problem.

In a word. No.

They aren't interested in getting involved in Quebec's political battles and Quebec has made it very clear it doesn't want the ROC interfering in its business. They don't much care what Quebec does as long as they don't have to pay for it.