More cheats. This type of human nature makes me sick!

[Guest Peeves]

First Holocaust fraud probe leads to charge against Toronto woman

"The investigation is still underway, but it is estimated that at least $60 million has been siphoned from the fund."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/04/26/holocaust-fund-fraud-canadian.html

Now this. Seems nothing is free of fraud anymore.

http://www.nationalpost.com/Ineligible+people+received+Manitoba+flood+benefits+Ottawa/6534695/story.html

Ineligible people received Manitoba flood benefits: Ottawa

Winnipeg Free Press · Apr. 28, 2012 | Last Updated: Apr. 28, 2012 5:07 AM ET

Ottawa - More than one in 10 people receiving emergency assistance because of flooding at Lake St. Martin First Nation in Manitoba were not evacuees from the reserve, the federal government acknowledged Friday. Aboriginal Affairs identified 170 people who were receiving evacuation benefits who weren't eligible for them, said Sid Dutchak, the government's special representative overseeing flooding issues on Manitoba First Nations. "These things will be rectified," said Mr. Dutchak. However, he said it will be difficult to sort out who was on the list because there was confusion about who was eligible and who was taking advantage of the situation. He said the focus is to sort out how much money the ineligible people were given for hotel rooms and daily living allowances, and then to try and get it back. As of February, Ottawa had spent $12 million on emergency assistance for Lake St. Martin evacuees since May 2011. It has spent $40-million total for evacuees from at least half a dozen Manitoba First Nations, forced out by widespread flooding in 2011.

Edited April 30, 2012 by Peeves

[Guest Manny]

Small potatoes.

[August1991]

Key quote in the OP:

Germany set up the fund, which is administered by the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, to compensate those who lived through the Holocaust.

Germany did not set up this fund. The German government used taxpayer money to set up a fund.

IOW, German taxpayers set up the fund.

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Cheats? There are 6 billion people in the world, and if only 1% are dishonest, psychopathic, cheats - that would mean 60 million people among us.

I assume that the 60 million would seek "other people's money", if it were easy to take. Government tax revenues seem an obvious target. And the State has the power to tax.

Peeves, Willy Sutton famously said: "That's where the money is."

In our civilized world, the money is in State taxation. Welcome to the 21st century.

Edited May 1, 2012 by August1991

[Guest Peeves]

Small potatoes.

That's potaaaatoes.

[eyeball]

There are 6 billion people in the world, and if only 1% are dishonest, psychopathic, cheats - that would mean 60 million people among us.

In our civilized world, the money is in State taxation. Welcome to the 21st century.

In our civilized world, state governments are predominated by about the same number of people.

And it's probably closer to 70 million given the worldometer ticked over at 7 billion last year.

[Guest Manny]

In our civilized world, the money is in State taxation. Welcome to the 21st century.

Yeah, this is where the real crimes are taking place.

[Guest Manny]

That's potaaaatoes.

"In November 2004, the SEC filed civil fraud lawsuits against Black and several others, alleging the defendants cheated and defrauded shareholders through a series of deceptive schemes and misstatements. One year later, eight criminal fraud charges were brought by the Chicago U. S. Attorney against Black and three former Hollinger executives. The U.S. Attorney laid four new charges against Black on 15 December 2005, alleging racketeering, obstruction of justice, money laundering, mail fraud, tax evasion and wire fraud. Under the racketeering count, the government sought forfeiture of more than $92,000,000 (USD)."

That's only what they sought in forfeiture. Not even what he defrauded. One person. Or small group of persons. And yet, today all is forgiven. Come back to Canada, we want you here.

It's people like him that destroyed the economy. Him, and that US guy who defrauded 50 billion or so, whose kid committed suicide on the anniversary of his court case. Bernie Madoff. How many people lost their life savings, livelihood, went to early graves on account of people like these?

When governments are willing to be so forgiving, or courts to be so lenient towards the cheats, really big time cheats, it sends a signal. And when we find out the government themselves are the biggest cheats of all, it sends out a signal. To the minds of the people, this is the way the game is played. When leadership itself is corrupt, the people can only be corrupt. How can we exceed or be better than the expectations and the methods demonstrated by our own leadership?

[Guest Peeves]

"In November 2004, the SEC filed civil fraud lawsuits against Black and several others, alleging the defendants cheated and defrauded shareholders through a series of deceptive schemes and misstatements. One year later, eight criminal fraud charges were brought by the Chicago U. S. Attorney against Black and three former Hollinger executives. The U.S. Attorney laid four new charges against Black on 15 December 2005, alleging racketeering, obstruction of justice, money laundering, mail fraud, tax evasion and wire fraud. Under the racketeering count, the government sought forfeiture of more than $92,000,000 (USD)."

That's only what they sought in forfeiture. Not even what he defrauded. One person. Or small group of persons. And yet, today all is forgiven. Come back to Canada, we want you here.

It's people like him that destroyed the economy. Him, and that US guy who defrauded 50 billion or so, whose kid committed suicide on the anniversary of his court case. Bernie Madoff. How many people lost their life savings, livelihood, went to early graves on account of people like these?

When governments are willing to be so forgiving, or courts to be so lenient towards the cheats, really big time cheats, it sends a signal. And when we find out the government themselves are the biggest cheats of all, it sends out a signal. To the minds of the people, this is the way the game is played. When leadership itself is corrupt, the people can only be corrupt. How can we exceed or be better than the expectations and the methods demonstrated by our own leadership?

I consider cheats to be cheats regardless the amount or degree of the $ amount. It adds up even in small fraud. We as taxpayers and consumers pay the tab.

Black's so called crimes had nothing to do with the economy. Madoff's crimes were entirely different in both effect, nature and result than any Black 'may' have been guilty of in Canada.

[Tilter]

I consider cheats to be cheats regardless the amount or degree of the $ amount. It adds up even in small fraud. We as taxpayers and consumers pay the tab.

Black's so called crimes had nothing to do with the economy. Madoff's crimes were entirely different in both effect, nature and result than any Black 'may' have been guilty of in Canada.

Wouldn't that be Lord Black---???

Royalty could never defraud anyone.

Would they????????? :blink:

seeing as how it's LORD Black he can't be a Canadian--- we don't have royalty---- except for the leeches in London. Big ears & Lady Her Horsfullness are coming back to sponge some more off the Canadian taxpayer

Edited May 2, 2012 by Tilter

[bud]

hasn't the holocaust been milked enough?

[Guest Peeves]

hasn't the holocaust been milked enough?

"Milked" ?

Hmm, one might think you don't like Jews.

[Fletch 27]

How that? Every "Jew" that i know and am friends with totally disagree with Bnai-Brit and the Canadian Jewish congress... Every Jewish friend of mine and through MANY conversations, they ALL say that these group keep the hatred alive..

Shallom!

"Milked" ?

Hmm, one might think you don't like Jews.

[Guest Peeves]

How that? Every "Jew" that i know and am friends with totally disagree with Bnai-Brit and the Canadian Jewish congress... Every Jewish friend of mine and through MANY conversations, they ALL say that these group keep the hatred alive..

Shallom!

How that what?

What groups keep hatred alive?

You think the Holocaust fund to survivors is milked as Bud suggests?

Are you suggesting that Jewish groups keep hatred alive not Arabs teaching kids hate, promoting the 'Protocols' as true, pushing blood libel passover stories, harvesting organ stories.

Note buds link in his post.

http://www.cjpme.org/

Lotsa milkin goin on.