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language experts have repeatedly asserted that ahmadinejad has never said 'israel should be wiped out', however, this misquotation, or mistranslation continues to be used by those who want find any excuse to paint iran as a reckless and aggressive country and thus try to justify an attack on iran.

Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Dan Meridor told Al Jazeera that Iran never vowed to "wipe Israel off the map," as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly claimed.

Speaking to the Arab network, Meridor, who also serves as deputy PM, said Iran's leaders "all come basically ideologically, religiously with the statement that Israel is an unnatural creature, it will not survive." However, he added, "They didn't say 'we'll wipe it out,' but (rather) 'it will not survive, it is a cancerous tumor, it should be removed'. They repeatedly said 'Israel is not legitimate, it should not exist'."

ynet

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Speaking to the Arab network, Meridor, who also serves as deputy PM, said Iran's leaders "all come basically ideologically, religiously with the statement that Israel is an unnatural creature, it will not survive." However, he added, "They didn't say 'we'll wipe it out,' but (rather) 'it will not survive, it is a cancerous tumor, it should be removed'. They repeatedly said 'Israel is not legitimate, it should not exist'."[/b]

ynet

That's synonymous with saying Israel should be wiped out. Does one, in a surgery, not seek to wipe out a cancer?

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language experts have repeatedly asserted that ahmadinejad has never said 'israel should be wiped out', however, this misquotation, or mistranslation continues to be used by those who want find any excuse to paint iran as a reckless and aggressive country and thus try to justify an attack on iran.

Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Dan Meridor told Al Jazeera that Iran never vowed to "wipe Israel off the map," as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly claimed.

Speaking to the Arab network, Meridor, who also serves as deputy PM, said Iran's leaders "all come basically ideologically, religiously with the statement that Israel is an unnatural creature, it will not survive." However, he added, "They didn't say 'we'll wipe it out,' but (rather) 'it will not survive, it is a cancerous tumor, it should be removed'. They repeatedly said 'Israel is not legitimate, it should not exist'."

ynet

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/11/1063967/-Snipped-view-of-Islamic-Fascist-Republic-of-Iran-global-crimes-against-humanity-threatening-world

The horse is dead. Several Iranians have strongly implied that Jews and Israel should be eradicated even by nuke if necessary. Now those quotes have been posted here ad nauseum. When Israel appears as Israel on Arab-Persian maps there just may be some support for your trolling.

"Rafsanjani Says Muslims Should Use Nuclear Weapon against Israel." -- December, 2001[19]

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That's synonymous with saying Israel should be wiped out. Does one, in a surgery, not seek to wipe out a cancer?

of course there is a difference. because in one instance, the misquotation is about wiping out a country and the other is about removing a regime. from the article:

In 2005 Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying that Israel should be "wiped off the map," but it was later revealed that the translation of his remarks, published by media outlets around the world, was incorrect. Ahmadinejad was actually quoting the leader of the 1979 Islamic revolution: "The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."

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"Rafsanjani Says Muslims Should Use Nuclear Weapon against Israel." -- December, 2001[19]

lols

there is a reason why you didn't post the link to the actual quote, because there is no link to this alleged quote.

you tried this before and managed to find an article to some site that pretended to be a news outlet and now this.

you are so blatantly dishonest that you might as well come out and tell everyone that you will go to any length to help your team win. why can't you be an honest person?

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Guest Peeves
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lols

there is a reason why you didn't post the link to the actual quote, because there is no link to this alleged quote.

you tried this before and managed to find an article to some site that pretended to be a news outlet and now this.

you are so blatantly dishonest that you might as well come out and tell everyone that you will go to any length to help your team win. why can't you be an honest person?

I guess because the membership committee only allows one and you were available.

Guest Peeves
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CNN

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-757632

http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles_2001/dec_2001/rafsanjani_nuke_threats_141201.htm

RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAEL

TEHRAN 14 Dec 2001. (IPS) One of Iran’s most influential ruling cleric called Friday on the Muslim states to use nuclear weapon against Israel, assuring them that while such an attack would annihilate Israel, it would cost them "damages only".

"If a day comes when the world of Islam is duly equipped with the arms Israel has in possession, the strategy of colonialism would face a stalemate because application of an atomic bomb would not leave any thing in Israel but the same thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world", Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani told the crowd at the traditional Friday prayers in Tehran.

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http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/6138.htm

Ali Abd Al-Fattah, Muslim Brotherhood Leader in Egypt: The Time Will Come When 'the Accursed Jews Will Return to Wherever They Came from and the Arab

Land Will Be Completely Cleansed of Zionist Filth'

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http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/51/2711.htm

Ahmadinejad: Israel Is a "Dead Fish" and a "Stinking Corpse"; "The Zionist Regime Will Be Wiped out"; "The European Governments Do Not Want the Zionists Living in Europe"

By: Y. Mansharof and A. Savyon*

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http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/6132.htm

Egyptian Cleric Sallah Sultan, Founder of the Ohio-Based American Center for Islamic Research Discusses His Lecture in Dallas, Texas: War with the U.S. - Why Not? Allah Is on Our Side, and Will Obliterate America

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Isaiah 11:11-12 In that day the Lord will extend his hand yet a second time to recover the remnant that remains of his people, from Assyria, from Egypt, from Pathros, from Cush, from Elam, from Shinar, from Hamath, and from the coastlands of the sea. He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Ezekiel 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. And one king shall be king over them all, and they shall be no longer two nations, and no longer divided into two kingdoms.

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___The descendents of Ishmael will go up at that time [End of Days] with the nations of the world against Jerusalem...(Zohar 1:119 written somewhere between 101 -200)

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En passant, check & mate.

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CNN

lols.

way to try to give yourself credibility by starting the post out with CNN!

lets examine the information you have presented:

this 'ireport' page gives us nothing from CNN, but only the following link:

which you, one of the most dishonest posters on here, have posted before, and i called you on. the web site www.iran-press-service.com goes to, not a news outlet. it has no credibility, just like you have no credibility.

i mean really? even after posting this bogus link once before and being called on it, you do it again? have you no shame? will you go to any length to cheer for your team?

the rest of the crap you posted:

Ali Abd Al-Fattah, Muslim Brotherhood Leader in Egypt:

do you need a geography lesson on where iran and egypt are?

Ahmadinejad: Israel Is a "Dead Fish" and a "Stinking Corpse"; "The Zionist Regime Will Be Wiped out"; "The European Governments Do Not Want the Zionists Living in Europe"

yes? and? ahmadinejad has said 'the zionist regime' many times. how does this prove any of your lies? it actually confirms the truth that ahmadinejad has pointed to the 'zionist regime'.

Egyptian Cleric Sallah Sultan

egypt............ iran. geography lesson in session.

you have failed again.

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Guest Peeves
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lols.

way to try to give yourself credibility by starting the post out with CNN!

lets examine the information you have presented:

you have failed again.

Let's not, like a one perissodactyl mammal (genus Equus),race you win by an ass.

Sigh,and I try soooo hard. Alas I am undone by a neo-Zionist using reverse psychology.

Guest Peeves
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i am sorry for you.

get back to me when you're able to debate properly and honestly.

'K', deal. When Iran openly states Israel's right to exist or when Arab maps show Israel, or when blood libel stops, the protocols are not stated as fact or when the UN shows no bias....whichever comes...ever.

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It says Not Vetted by CNN in the top corner of the photo montage and in the text is says;

About this iReport

Not vetted for CNN

Like I said before, Israel's cause is probably as well served by folks like you as a kid's hockey team is by a drunken loudmouth.

iReport welcomes a lively discussion, so comments on iReports are not pre-screened before they post. See the iReport community guidelines for details about content that is not welcome on iReport.
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:lol:

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I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

Guest Peeves
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Like I said before, Israel's cause is probably as well served by folks like you as a kid's hockey team is by a drunken loudmouth.

Since you seem to be a maven on drunks and loud mouths, I defer to you. On other subjects...not so much.

Ok so your impression is that Iran wants Israel to live long and prosper, who'd a thunk it.

Posted

'K', deal. When Iran openly states Israel's right to exist or when Arab maps show Israel, or when blood libel stops, the protocols are not stated as fact or when the UN shows no bias....whichever comes...ever.

iran's stance on israel's legitimacy is a red herring. israel needs to accept a palestinian state as according to international law instead of dragging its feet while annexing more palestinian land.

increase of illegal israeli settlements on palestinian land is not self defense. it's colonization and land theft.

Posted

That's synonymous with saying Israel should be wiped out. Does one, in a surgery, not seek to wipe out a cancer?

No, the medical fields are all about mitigating and treating the cancer, never quite getting rid of it. You always hear about cancer treatment, never hear about cancer prevention. But saying this would classify me as an anti-semite.

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No, the medical fields are all about mitigating and treating the cancer, never quite getting rid of it. You always hear about cancer treatment, never hear about cancer prevention. But saying this would classify me as an anti-semite.

You won't mind if I surgically remove the engine from your car, then? It should still work, according to your theory.

Guest Peeves
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You won't mind if I surgically remove the engine from your car, then? It should still work, according to your theory.

I sometimes wish we could buy a brain when ours becomes senile or otherwise afflicted. Would you not say there are some good deals about here?

A couple I have noticed have seldom if ever been used. ;)

Guest Peeves
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No, the medical fields are all about mitigating and treating the cancer, never quite getting rid of it. You always hear about cancer treatment, never hear about cancer prevention. But saying this would classify me as an anti-semite.

Nice subtle move you made to follow up radiation. Well, it's suggested perhaps only as a potential final solution..

Not meaning to be a school marm, but in usage

anti-Semite in referring to Jews would generally be in caps.

I know picky picky..

Posted

they talk about moving the cancerous 'regime'. it's true, if we want to move towards peace, the hawkish right wing israeli government needs to be removed. this is a regime that has vowed to never allow a palestinian state.

Posted

You won't mind if I surgically remove the engine from your car, then? It should still work, according to your theory.

Go for it, would make it easier to put in a new engine, which I think I need.

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