New NDP ad's (English, still no blinking)

[punked]

I don't give a shit who releases it, it doesn't change the fact that it's idiotic. It's nice you're defending what the NDP do by saying the Conservative government also does it.

Every government has done from the time we became a Bilingual country, even the Liberals you love. Heck they still do it.

[Newfoundlander]

Because Quebec was a founding member of this federation, and wishing for them to leave makes you just as bad a separatist. You don't throw in the towel because there's a difference of opinion.

I think Newfoundland and Labrador, and the rest of Canada, would be better off without Quebec. I agree with what separatist want to do, nothing wrong that.

[punked]

I think Newfoundland and Labrador, and the rest of Canada, would be better off without Quebec. I agree with what separatist want to do, nothing wrong that.

Which is why you hate the NDP because they put Separatism to bed.

[Newfoundlander]

Every government has done from the time we became a Bilingual country, even the Liberals you love. Heck they still do it.

If it is a bilingual country why wasn't the release it French and why wasn't it for FRENCH CANADIANS?

[Newfoundlander]

Which is why you hate the NDP because they put Separatism to bed.

I don't hate the NDP I don't think their policies are good.

[Smallc]

I think Newfoundland and Labrador, and the rest of Canada, would be better off without Quebec. I agree with what separatist want to do, nothing wrong that.

I don't see how Canada would be better off without Quebec. For one thing, there would be a huge hole in the middle, and for another, we'd lose a large percentage of our economy. The costs of the change would be beyond belief for both parties in terms of government costs, economic costs, cultural costs, and the cost of our standing in the world. Quebec and TROC are stronger as one country than they ever would be apart.

[punked]

I don't hate the NDP I don't think their policies are good.

You have shown time and time again you do not even know what their policies are or where you could find them.

[Newfoundlander]

I don't see how Canada would be better off without Quebec. For one thing, there would be a huge hole in the middle, and for another, we'd lose a large percentage of our economy. The costs of the change would be beyond belief for both parties in terms of government costs, economic costs, cultural costs, and the cost of our standing in the world. Quebec and TROC are stronger as one country than they ever would be apart.

I disagree, but you're welcome to your opinion.

[Newfoundlander]

You have shown time and time again you do not even know what their policies are or where you could find them.

When have I showed time and time again I don't understand their policies? I don't know all of them and have likely made mistakes on their policies in the past, why don't you go find my quotes of where I made mistakes show them to me and tell me how I was wrong?

[Smallc]

I disagree, but you're welcome to your opinion.

I'm not sure where you come from on this. Quebec gets equalization, yes, so they cost us a bit there, but what they bring to the table in terms of so many sectors far outweighs what they're government gets in fiscal capacity top ups.

[punked]

When have I showed time and time again I don't understand their policies? I don't know all of them and have likely made mistakes on their policies in the past, why don't you go find my quotes of where I made mistakes show them to me and tell me how I was wrong?

No thanks it was terrible enough reading through the posts once. I am sure as time goes by you will continue to be corrected on the NDP because you seem to project what you want to believe on who you think they are instead of actually look at who they are.

[cybercoma]

If it is a bilingual country why wasn't the release it French and why wasn't it for FRENCH CANADIANS?

For the second time, in this thread alone, it was the same press release in both French and English.

[Newfoundlander]

No thanks it was terrible enough reading through the posts once. I am sure as time goes by you will continue to be corrected on the NDP because you seem to project what you want to believe on who you think they are instead of actually look at who they are.

Guess those posts don't exist then.

The NDP have a new leader so how exactly do we know what the parties policies are? It's all right for you to say the grassroots choose the policy but if they did why was Brian Topp saying he'd raise corporate taxes by 50%?

[cybercoma]

Guess those posts don't exist then.

Oh they exist.

For the last two years the Wildrose Party have provided Albertans with the budget they would have implemented had they been in power, and look where they are in polls. It's easy for opposition parties to criticize budgets not being balanced and spending being cut.

Jack Layton said a year ago he'd balance the budget the same time as Harper so why can't the NDP release a "budget" saying what they'd do if they were in power? Mulcair says he wants to be seen as an alternative, then give us the alternative.

Bob Rae says the age for OAS shouldn't change and complains about budget cuts then tell us how to ge back to a balanced budget in the medium term.

IT IS ON THEIR WEBSITE! They have a costed platform go read it just because you don't want to do research doesn't mean the answer you look for don't exist.

[punked]

Guess those posts don't exist then.

The NDP have a new leader so how exactly do we know what the parties policies are? It's all right for you to say the grassroots choose the policy but if they did why was Brian Topp saying he'd raise corporate taxes by 50%?

Nope just because I refuse to spend my time reading through your mis-informed posts does not mean all your posts are right. Sorry.

The parties policies are based on resolutions passed by party members at convention. Unlike the Liberals Party or Conservative party the Leader is not allowed to toss those policies out because they poll badly and come up with their own. Here is another example where you don't understand the NDP and thus project your own image on them. The leader is bound to the policies passed by the membership. Example Layton wasn't a big fan of the war in Afghanistan however he held his tongue until THE PARTY MEMBERSHIP passed a resolution saying just that. It was quite the debate with MPs like Peter Stoffer on one side and Layton on the other.

Edited April 6, 2012 by punked

[Newfoundlander]

For the second time, in this thread alone, it was the same press release in both French and English.

It was titled to Quebeckers and was in ENGLISH.

[Newfoundlander]

Oh they exist.

So did Jack Layton not say he'd balance the budget the same year as Harper did during the 2011 election?

[punked]

So did Jack Layton not say he'd balance the budget the same year as Harper did during the 2011 election?

So did the NDP not produce a fully costed platform document?

[Newfoundlander]

Nope just because I refuse to spend my time reading through your mis-informed posts does not mean all your posts are right. Sorry.

The parties policies are based on resolutions passed by party members at convention. Unlike the Liberals Party or Conservative party the Leader is not allowed to toss those policies out because they poll badly and come up with their own. Here is another example where you don't understand the NDP and thus project your own image on them. The leader is bound to the policies passed by the membership. Example Layton wasn't a big fan of the war in Afghanistan however he held his tongue until THE PARTY MEMBERSHIP passed a resolution saying just that. It was quite the debate with MPs like Peter Stoffer on one side and Layton on the other.

So why does a leadership candidate come out and say he'd raise corporate taxes by 50% if it means absolutely nothing?

[Newfoundlander]

So did the NDP not produce a fully costed platform document?

I asked a question to someone else, if you're not smart enough to answer then mind your own business.

[Jack Weber]

I don't hate Quebec, I just want them to separate.

Now when it comes to commies like you I could use more powerful language.

Could we then go to your poverty stricken "Rock"?

I mean,it's basically been a charity case for this country since we allowed you into it?

Edited April 6, 2012 by Jack Weber

[Jack Weber]

Which is why you hate the NDP because they put Separatism to bed.

No they haven't...They just put a Federalist face on it...

[punked]

So why does a leadership candidate come out and say he'd raise corporate taxes by 50% if it means absolutely nothing?

He said that to the party, if he won then he could have been assured the party would back him at convention. That could be true it could not be true but Topp would have no power as leader to make this a policy decision. However in the NDP the leader does not make policy only the party members do. Which is why I gave you an example. This again is an instance where you know nothing about the NDP but speak like you know something. No wonder you hate them so much you know absolutely nothing about them.

[cybercoma]

No they haven't...They just put a Federalist face on it...

Ah yes... those pesky federalist separatists. It's like being a little bit pregnant.

[Newfoundlander]

Could we then go to your poverty stricken "Rock"?

I mean,it's basically been a charity case for this country since we allowed you into it?

Newfoundlanders and Labradorians have the second highest income of any province, behind only Alberta.

The Quebec government is also making $1 billion a year off the Churchill Falls hydro development in Labrador. If that money had been coming in to Newfoundland and Labrador we would have no debt whatsoever and would have been off equalization much sooner then 3 years ago. If Quebec would leave Canada the contract signed with them would have to be re-written and it's quite possible northern Quebec, and other parts, would remain in Canada which could make it easier for us to develop hydro power and send it to Ontario.