UofGPolitico Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 Way to premature to know if 2015 will turf the Conservative government, but the possibility seems more likely now than it did at the end of 2011. At that point I would fully expect Stephen Harper to step aside. So, whether its 2015 or later, who really is a logical successor to him? I think Harper is clearly looking upon Jason Kenney as his "heir apparent", at least that is my impression. Would Jim Prentice come back in and run as a more centrist candidate? What about John Baird? Jim Flaherty? What do people think? Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 I can't imagine the Conservatives losing in 2015. I'd love to see Stephen Harper call it quits, but I don't think it's likely. Some of the successors I'd like include; Christian Paradis Maxime Bernier (eventhough he's a bit nuts I'd like him to run) Michael Chong John Baird Chris Alexander Bernard Trottier Mark Adler James Moore There's more then that but I can't think of who else at the moment, and that's just from caucus. Bernard Lord is an option and so is Michael Fornier, but he probably blew his chances. Quote
August1991 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) So, whether its 2015 or later, who really is a logical successor to him?Huh? I reckon that Stephen Harper is a marriage of Mackenzie King and Pierre Trudeau.Harper has manipulated the system (like King) to ensure his re-election. But Harper has also arrived with an ideology for the times (like Trudeau). I wonder whether Harper has struck the motherlode of federal politics: regional deals/compromise. ---- If Harper (born in 1959) can make federal Canada work, he'll be PM longer than King (born in 1874). Let's see. Edited March 3, 2012 by August1991 Quote
UofGPolitico Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Posted March 3, 2012 Huh? I reckon that Stephen Harper is a marriage of Mackenzie King and Pierre Trudeau. Harper has manipulated the system (like King) to ensure his re-election. But Harper has also arrived with an ideology for the times (like Trudeau). I wonder whether Harper has struck the motherlode of federal politics: regional deals/compromise. ---- If Harper (born in 1959) can make federal Canada work, he'll be PM longer than King (born in 1874). Let's see. If he does get re-elected with a majority mandate in 2015, if he were to serve the full term (until fall 2019) he would be Canada's longest serving prime minister (in terms of consecutive time in power) since Wilfrid Laurier. Quote
UofGPolitico Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Posted March 3, 2012 I can't imagine the Conservatives losing in 2015. I'd love to see Stephen Harper call it quits, but I don't think it's likely. Some of the successors I'd like include; Christian Paradis Maxime Bernier (eventhough he's a bit nuts I'd like him to run) Michael Chong John Baird Chris Alexander Bernard Trottier Mark Adler James Moore There's more then that but I can't think of who else at the moment, and that's just from caucus. Bernard Lord is an option and so is Michael Fornier, but he probably blew his chances. Interesting list. I love Michael Chong, and he most certainly is destined to be a backbencher until Harper does go, but he is very popular both on the hill and in his riding and surrounding area. I've met many Guelphites who wish he was their MP and not Frank. Be interesting if he did one day launch a leadership bid. Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 Peter MacKay John Baird Tony Clement Jim Flaherty Peter Van Loan Jason Kenney Joe Oliver Maxime Bernier Lawrence Cannon Michael Chong Stockwell Day Michael Fortier Jim Prentice Monte Solberg And that's just from the federal crowd. If Harper were to win another majority in 2015, names like Alison Redford become possible. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
capricorn Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 I wonder whether Harper has struck the motherlode of federal politics: regional deals/compromise. In addition, I wouldn't discount underwhelming opposition. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
j44 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 Jason Kenney would be at the top if my list. I can't see any path for Peter MacKay or Stockwell Day. I think our finance minster calls it quits when Harper does. That's just a gut feeling though. Quote
capricorn Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 I think our finance minster calls it quits when Harper does. That my sense too. IMO Flaherty will land in a plum job with an international organization. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
UofGPolitico Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Posted March 3, 2012 That my sense too. IMO Flaherty will land in a plum job with an international organization. Yeah, he is fairly well respected both in and outside of Canada. He could also retire too. He will be 66 by 2015. Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Jason Kenney is decent, he's my favourite from the cpc i honestly would think about voting cpc if he were the leader and that he shown he was different than harper Edited March 3, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
UofGPolitico Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Posted March 3, 2012 Jason Kenney is decent, he's my favourite from the cpc I'd argue he's more right-wing than Harper, and you like him? Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 I'd argue he's more right-wing than Harper, and you like him? im right wing when it comes to immigration ..im not sure what he sees on the other issues Quote
UofGPolitico Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Posted March 3, 2012 im right wing when it comes to immigration ..im not sure what he sees on the other issues Interesting. Presumably he is pretty in line with Harper's stances because he is Harper's pet project I think. Since 2006 he has moved up the most of any MP under him. Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Interesting. Presumably he is pretty in line with Harper's stances because he is Harper's pet project I think. Since 2006 he has moved up the most of any MP under him. well, as long as he doesn't govern like harper he's at least an improvement..I can't stand how all kinds of Mps get away with everything harper has let them get away with..even Mulroney kicked his mps out of the party when he found them doing something they shouldn't..that is my biggest dislike about harper Another thing I don't like is he shuns science and facts...I hope Kenney is the opposite..that would go a long way with me Edited March 3, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 I am not a fan of Jason Kenny at all, he's basically a younger Harper. He's got a good chance of being the next Prime Miniater though. Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 I am not a fan of Jason Kenny at all, he's basically a younger Harper. He's got a good chance of being the next Prime Miniater though. well that's no good.. guess I should think about this more eh Quote
j44 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 He's pretty conservative on foreign policy too. I would argue Harper likes him so much because of his work in the last election and not necessarily because their views line up. Quote
UofGPolitico Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Posted March 3, 2012 I am not a fan of Jason Kenny at all, he's basically a younger Harper. He's got a good chance of being the next Prime Miniater though. I'd personally like to see a more "centrist" leader next go around. Harper isn't as right-wing as the left would make you believe, but optics are everything. As long as he is in power, he will never fully shed the Reform/CA and NCC days. Quote
Topaz Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 I think its going to be a former reformer vs MacKay and Harper will support the reformer. The only problem is they have to clean up this election fraud business, because the court of public opinion, voters will have doubts that they are behind this voter fraud and Harper could lose some of his supporters in Ontario. Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 Harper isn't as right-wing as the left would make you believe, but optics are everything. I think that is because he knows it would be the end of his reign as King Canada if he became a fully realized U.S Republican Quote
UofGPolitico Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Posted March 3, 2012 I think that is because he knows it would be the end of his reign as King Canada if he became a fully realized U.S Republican Well whatever keeps him in check. Some of his ministers actions notwithstanding, Harper is a very smart and tactical man. He's one of the smoothest political operators this country has seen in a long time. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 MacKay has blown his chances in my opinion. Quote
cybercoma Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 A monkey in a fez hat that knows how to read a script is my pick. Quote
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