A Québécois to Jews et al, Israel "does not deserve to exist"

[Guest Peeves]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/05/israel-today-is-not-my-cup-of-tea-quebec-tv-host/

Certainly entitled to his opinion though I think he's showing a bias don't you? Now had he not been so one sided his expressed opinion might have been considered as worth something, but, as it stands it sounds pretty much just another anti-Semitic rant. I've long accepted that anti- Semites have found tat criticism of Israel- Israeli's, is a more acceptable form of damning Jews for everything and anything.

BTW, I also have criticized Israel on certain policies, but it is a Sovereign nation with the right to protect it's borders.

Excerpt:

Stéphane Gendron, host of Face à Face, a daily talk show on Quebec’s V Television network, garnered a flood of complaints after a December broadcast where he said he supported an ongoing boycott of a Montreal store that sold Israeli-made shoes. “Products made in Israel on land stolen from the Palestinians that is walled in, in an apartheid regime where they are cut off, it’s very serious,” said Mr. Gendron, who is also the mayor of Huntingdon, a small town south of Montreal. “And a country like that does not deserve to exist.”

Israel complains the UN about dozens of missile and mortar attacks over the last few weeks.

http://www.prophezine.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=83:israel-complains-to-un-

gaza-missile-penetrates-idf-tank

Hamas and allied terrorists have attacked the western Negev with at least 18 missiles and mortar shells since Monday in a sharp escalation in violence. Lt. Gen. Ashkenazi said that the IDF retaliation included buildings housing Hamas terrorists, the first time they have been targeted, with the exception of "ticking bombs," since the end of Operation Cast Lead two years ago next month.

The complaint to the United Nations pointed out that a Kassam rocket exploded near a kindergarten on a kibbutz Monday morning, wounding a 14-year-old girl and sending several others into traumatic shock. "The incidents of the past several days are part of an escalation of terrorist attacks emanating from Gaza that target Israeli civilians, towns, and military personnel," wrote Israel's United Nations Ambassador Meron Reuben.

I'm sure our Québécois friend of the Palestinians will be the first to criticize the attacks on Israel...when kosher pigs fly.

[jbg]

I have always suspected that the "anti-English" movement in Quebec had an anti-Jewish component as well.

[LonJowett]

But everyone loves Mordecai Richler.

[Guest American Woman]

I have always suspected that the "anti-English" movement in Quebec had an anti-Jewish component as well.

I'm not sure how much of a "component" one anti-Semite tv host makes.

[Guest Peeves]

I'm not sure how much of a "component" one anti-Semite tv host makes.

Well, a constituent part is a component, and I think one TV host might be considered as a constituent part.

Certainly the French including Quebec French have had an anti-Semitic bent that can't be denied.

I think this guy is over the top even for Quebec.

[Guest Peeves]

But everyone loves Mordecai Richler.

Not when it came to an honorific symbol as a street name.

Mordecai Richler will not be honoured in his hometown with a street, a library or even, as one of his friends suggested, a bar at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel. Instead, the cranky and celebrated Montreal author is set to be commemorated in an uncharacteristically genteel way.

It hasn’t been formally named or approved yet, but “Le Gazébo Mordecai Richler” could soon appear on the Montreal landscape.

[Guest American Woman]

Well, a constituent part is a component, and I think one TV host might be considered as a constituent part.

Certainly the French including Quebec French have had an anti-Semitic bent that can't be denied.

I think this guy is over the top even for Quebec.

From what I was reading, he was pretty much alone in his support of the boycott of the store mentioned in the opening post, which lead me to believe there must not be much of an anti-Semite component. I doubt that one tv host, who received a lot of harsh criticism, speaks for the province. That was my point. If there is other evidence of an anti-Semitic bent in Quebec, it isn't apparent from the opening post.

[kimmy]

From what I was reading, he was pretty much alone in his support of the boycott of the store mentioned in the opening post, which lead me to believe there must not be much of an anti-Semite component. I doubt that one tv host, who received a lot of harsh criticism, speaks for the province. That was my point. If there is other evidence of an anti-Semitic bent in Quebec, it isn't apparent from the opening post.

I believe jbg was speaking of a long-standing prejudice, not only this one shoe boycott.

Following the defeat of the last sovereignty referendum, some of the sovereigntists including Premier Jacques Parizeau if I recall, blamed immigrants and Monteal Jews for the defeat. There seems to be an element in Quebec's sovereignty movement that thinks Quebec is for the "pur-lain" ethnic group and they don't see the immigrants or the Jews as part of Quebec.

-k

[Guest Peeves]

From what I was reading, he was pretty much alone in his support of the boycott of the store mentioned in the opening post, which lead me to believe there must not be much of an anti-Semite component. I doubt that one tv host, who received a lot of harsh criticism, speaks for the province. That was my point. If there is other evidence of an anti-Semitic bent in Quebec, it isn't apparent from the opening post.

http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=29754

"Although unions and other broad-based organizations such as the Federation des femmes du Québec have officially endorsed the boycott of Israel in the past few years, the QIC maintains that the issue continues to garner “marginal” support from the Quebec public."

Actually it has raised a pro-Israel response and support for the store.

http://www.ragazou.qc.ca/?p=17050

There have been many overtones of bias against Jews and Muslims in Quebec, and, in France. France historically showed an anti- Jewish face rivaling Germany's.

[jbg]

I believe jbg was speaking of a long-standing prejudice, not only this one shoe boycott.

Following the defeat of the last sovereignty referendum, some of the sovereigntists including Premier Jacques Parizeau if I recall, blamed immigrants and Monteal Jews for the defeat. There seems to be an element in Quebec's sovereignty movement that thinks Quebec is for the "pur-lain" ethnic group and they don't see the immigrants or the Jews as part of Quebec.

You nailed it.

But starting with the "Quiet Revolution" and the 1974 schooling legislation the Jews have been exiting Montreal. What was once a thriving Jewish community has become aged and shriveled in number.

[Guest Peeves]

You nailed it.

But starting with the "Quiet Revolution" and the 1974 schooling legislation the Jews have been exiting Montreal. What was once a thriving Jewish community has become aged and shriveled in number.

As in many other countries.

[LonJowett]

What was once a thriving Jewish community has become aged and shriveled in number.

You haven't been to Outremont.

But those who would like to portray Quebec as anti-semite usually start by quoting Lionel Groulx.

But personally I don't see the point of trying to divide peoples who have lived peacefully together for years by accusing one of disliking the other.

[August1991]

Following the defeat of the last sovereignty referendum, some of the sovereigntists including Premier Jacques Parizeau if I recall, blamed immigrants and Monteal Jews for the defeat.

In 1995, Parizeau blamed "money, and the ethnic vote" for the defeat of his ideal.

The term money seems clear (Adscam etc), but you can interpret the word ethnic as you wish. I never interpreted it as Jewish.

Instead, I simply think that Jacques Parizeau was understandably a very frustrated man that night.

Edited January 8, 2012 by August1991

[jbg]

I'm sure our Québécois friend of the Palestinians will be the first to criticize the attacks on Israel...when kosher pigs fly.

Have you noticed the huge amount of selective outrage at Israeli retaliations, yet none at the barbarous attacks on buses, pizzerias and discos?

[jbg]

In 1995, Parizeau blamed "money, and the ethnic vote" for the defeat of his ideal.

The term money seems clear (Adscam etc), but you can interpret the word ethnic as you wish. I never interpreted it as Jewish.

I did, in part, because of supposed Jewish domination of industry in the Montreal area. Remember, Adscam may have been ongoing in 1995 but it became public with the AG report in either 2003 or 2004, after Chretien passed the baton to Martin (and left him with the mess). Edited January 8, 2012 by jbg

[LonJowett]

Have you noticed the huge amount of selective outrage at Israeli retaliations, yet none at the barbarous attacks on buses, pizzerias and discos?

Nope. Not at all. Couldn't be imagining things, could you?

[Guest Peeves]

Nope. Not at all. Couldn't be imagining things, could you?

Hows about the continued stream of rockets from Gaza targeting civilians indiscriminately?

Can't see that from Quebec, but a TV personality should be aware of it ya think?

[LonJowett]

Can't see that from Quebec, but a TV personality should be aware of it ya think?

Which TV personality (who represents all of Quebec) are you referring to?

[Guest Peeves]

Which TV personality (who represents all of Quebec) are you referring to?

Who said any TV personality ever represents all of anywhere.

I refer, if it's that indecipherable to the reader, to the one and only Stéphane Gendron, host of Face à Face, a daily talk show on Quebec’s V Television network.

[PIK]

When your own life sucks ,blame the jews. Been going on for ever.

[Guest Peeves]

In 1995, Parizeau blamed "money, and the ethnic vote" for the defeat of his ideal.

The term money seems clear (Adscam etc), but you can interpret the word ethnic as you wish. I never interpreted it as Jewish.

Instead, I simply think that Jacques Parizeau was understandably a very frustrated man that night.

And possibly drunk, but he did direct his invective at Jews as I read between his lines. ""C'est vrai, c'est vrai qu'on a été battus, au fond, par quoi? Par l'argent puis des votes ethniques, essentiellement."

In Quebec and France as elsewhere,when one choses to combine money with ethnicity it invariably has referred to 'The Jews."

Perhaps I jump or leap frog to that conclusion erroneously, but others share the opinion.

[RonFournier]

And possibly drunk, but he did direct his invective at Jews as I read between his lines. ""C'est vrai, c'est vrai qu'on a été battus, au fond, par quoi? Par l'argent puis des votes ethniques, essentiellement."

In Quebec and France as elsewhere,when one choses to combine money with ethnicity it invariably has referred to 'The Jews."

Perhaps I jump or leap frog to that conclusion erroneously, but others share the opinion.

This is a ridiculous link to make. He said "ethnic votes" because of the fastened naturalization process prior to the referendum so the newly arrived immigrants could vote "no". We all know what the money aspect of his declaration refers to.

Now, where does the jewish thing come in? Parizeau didn't combine money and ethnicity, he talked about 2 different causes for the '95 defeat. What you're saying is just intellectualy dishonnest and false.

As for Quebeckers position on the Palestine-Israel conflict, most are on the palestinian side because of their fight for independance and their struggle to survive and not because they are anti-semitic as some of you are trying to label us. Yes, it is possible to have opinions against Israel while not being anti-semitic.

Edited January 23, 2012 by RonFournier

[Guest Peeves]

This is a ridiculous link to make. He said "ethnic votes" because of the fastened naturalization process prior to the referendum so the newly arrived immigrants could vote "no". We all know what the money aspect of his declaration refers to.

Now, where does the jewish thing come in? Parizeau didn't combine money and ethnicity, he talked about 2 different causes for the '95 defeat. What you're saying is just intellectualy dishonnest and false.

As for Quebeckers position on the Palestine-Israel conflict, most are on the palestinian side because of their fight for independance and their struggle to survive and not because they are anti-semitic as some of you are trying to label us. Yes, it is possible to have opinions against Israel while not being anti-semitic.

You have your opinion...I read it. You are entitled to mine. Have a nice day.

[RonFournier]

You have your opinion...I read it. You are entitled to mine. Have a nice day.

Just wanted to make sure you knew you were emitting a thesis based on stuff you made up yourself and no facts whatsoever.

Edited January 24, 2012 by RonFournier