Lou Marsh goes to a Bobsledder Skater?!?

Wilber · December 17, 2014

In other words, No you dont but can make the case without knowing?

I do wonder how that works.

Looks pretty Toronto, Montreal centric to me. Well, mostly Toronto.

The_Squid · December 17, 2014

In other words, No you dont but can make the case without knowing?I do wonder how that works.

What the hell are you talking about? The entire committee is either Toronto or, in a single case, Montreal.

Boges · December 17, 2014

Yet last year they gave it to a guy playing in Calgary in the CFL. The other options was a girl from Quebec or a Lacrose player that sounds First Nations.

I don't even know where in Canada Humphries is from and I don't think it matters.

Canada's media is Toronto centric anyway. I don't see any evidence that it influences their decisions for this award.

guyser · December 17, 2014

Yet last year they gave it to a guy playing in Calgary in the CFL.

Yup. A native New Westminster.

Lets see, before that was Christine Sinclair a Burnaby girl. And now a Calgary girl.

I don't even know where in Canada Humphries is from and I don't think it matters.

You are right, it doesnt.

Canada's media is Toronto centric anyway. I don't see any evidence that it influences their decisions for this award.

Exactly

guyser · December 17, 2014

What the hell are you talking about? The entire committee is either Toronto or, in a single case, Montreal.

But wait, you dont know who votes so...?

The voters could be from anywhere even thoughg it is voted on in TO.

Some are suggesting it isnt representative of the country, judging by the winners it sure looks so.

overthere · December 17, 2014

Really? I watched the game and I distinctly remember the fallout. After all, I live in BC. and I was in Vancouver at the time of the olympics.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1253923/Guzzling-champagne-swigging-beer-puffing-cigars--Canadian-womens-ice-hockey-team-celebrated-winning-gold.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/winter-olympics/7326057/Canadian-womens-ice-hockey-team-apologise-for-beer-and-cigars-on-ice.html

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/288154

http://www.canada.com/sports/Canadian+women+apologize+antics+after+winning+gold/2618299/story.html

And if anyone wants to relive that moment, here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toieStGHtfI

pffft.

Nobody cares, then or now. Oh, and the British print media cited doesn't even rate as fishwrapper, particularly the Daily Mail. If you put the Daily Fail on the bottom of a bird cage, the bird would die of constipation.

Wilber · December 17, 2014

pffft.

Nobody cares, then or now. Oh, and the British print media cited doesn't even rate as fishwrapper, particularly the Daily Mail. If you put the Daily Fail on the bottom of a bird cage, the bird would die of constipation.

Jon Montgomery did basically the same thing walking through Whistler Village chugging a pitcher of beer in his Canadian gear and helmet under his arm. He got a call from Oprah. They just won gold for craps sake.

WestCoastRunner · December 19, 2014

Jon Montgomery did basically the same thing walking through Whistler Village chugging a pitcher of beer in his Canadian gear and helmet under his arm. He got a call from Oprah. They just won gold for craps sake.

That was a great interview!

WestCoastRunner · December 19, 2014

pffft.

Nobody cares, then or now. Oh, and the British print media cited doesn't even rate as fishwrapper, particularly the Daily Mail. If you put the Daily Fail on the bottom of a bird cage, the bird would die of constipation.

Nobody cares? Plenty of Canadians cared. pfffft......

Boges · December 19, 2014

Nobody cares? Plenty of Canadians cared. pfffft......

I think more cared about the 2014 win because they came from behind to win in OT. That 2010 game really sucked.

The_Squid · December 19, 2014

But wait, you dont know who votes so...?

The voters could be from anywhere even thoughg it is voted on in TO.

Some are suggesting it isnt representative of the country, judging by the winners it sure looks so.

So you think Toronto media have offices and work in Calgary?

It is voted on by Toronto media, with a single exception. There is nothing national about the committee. I never claimed that the award goes to only Toronto athletes.

It is not a national award, and has very little significance to a national audience.

I googled who voted... couldn't find a list anywhere. Not even on the site for the award itself. Odd....

The_Squid · December 19, 2014

1988 tells you all you need to know about the Lou Marsh trophy.

A synchronized swimmer won the award.

Gretzky was heads/tails above everyone in his sport... won the Stanley Cup in '87... but he was not the best Canadian athlete. A synchronized swimmer was better than he was.

Wilber · December 19, 2014

1988 tells you all you need to know about the Lou Marsh trophy.

A synchronized swimmer won the award.

Gretzky was heads/tails above everyone in his sport... won the Stanley Cup in '87... but he was not the best Canadian athlete. A synchronized swimmer was better than he was.

Gretzky won it four times. The best anyone else has done is two, by another male hockey player.

The_Squid · December 19, 2014

Gretzky won it four times. The best anyone else has done is two, by another male hockey player.

I know... however, then let's not be fooled into thinking that the award goes to the best Canadian athlete in a given year. Unless you can make an argument that the synchronized swimmer was better than Gretzky.

Maybe the Lou Marsh committee can say the award goes "to a really good Canadian athlete unless they've already won it before.... plus we need to throw in some obscure sports occasionally.... and try and mix it up by gender as well...."

guyser · December 19, 2014

So you think Toronto media have offices and work in Calgary?

Think?

Nope, I know they do. Those broadcasts and liove shots are from employed folks stationed in Calgary Edmonton Calgary and Vancouver, for both TSN and SN.

It is voted on by Toronto media, with a single exception. There is nothing national about the committee. I never claimed that the award goes to only Toronto athletes.

Yes and No. The actual vote takes place in TO but some of those votes come from people who dont live here. As The Fan 590 guys said (Damien Cox) the voters reflect and recognize the entire country. And it would appear by whom they pick as winner as true

It is not a national award, and has very little significance to a national audience.

I have no idea how that can be your conclusion judging by the list of winners.

I googled who voted... couldn't find a list anywhere. Not even on the site for the award itself. Odd....

AFAIK its kept that way to mitigate any pressure to vote one way or the other.

Boges · December 19, 2014

1988 tells you all you need to know about the Lou Marsh trophy.

A synchronized swimmer won the award.

Gretzky was heads/tails above everyone in his sport... won the Stanley Cup in '87... but he was not the best Canadian athlete. A synchronized swimmer was better than he was.

She won 2 Gold Medals.

Ben Johnson would have been a lock that year had he not roided.

Gretzky had already won 2 and he also won another one the next year.

Boges · December 19, 2014

I know... however, then let's not be fooled into thinking that the award goes to the best Canadian athlete in a given year. Unless you can make an argument that the synchronized swimmer was better than Gretzky.

Maybe the Lou Marsh committee can say the award goes "to a really good Canadian athlete unless they've already won it before.... plus we need to throw in some obscure sports occasionally.... and try and mix it up by gender as well...."

John Cornish winning is an example of the best athlete not winning. But his achievement was unique and interesting.

guyser · December 19, 2014

I know... however, then let's not be fooled into thinking that the award goes to the best Canadian athlete in a given year. Unless you can make an argument that the synchronized swimmer was better than Gretzky.

Two Gold medals at one Olympic Games in two different categories, a first for Canada , the preceeding 4 years she was World Champ and won very other damn contest there was.

Deserved it .

The LM is no a popularity event.

guyser · December 19, 2014

She won 2 Gold Medals.

Ben Johnson would have been a lock that year had he not roided.

Ben won the year prior.

Wilber · December 20, 2014

I know... however, then let's not be fooled into thinking that the award goes to the best Canadian athlete in a given year. Unless you can make an argument that the synchronized swimmer was better than Gretzky.

Maybe the Lou Marsh committee can say the award goes "to a really good Canadian athlete unless they've already won it before.... plus we need to throw in some obscure sports occasionally.... and try and mix it up by gender as well...."

So lets just give it to the Conn Smythe winner if he happens to be a Canadian. Would that make you happy?

Wilber · December 20, 2014

John Cornish winning is an example of the best athlete not winning. But his achievement was unique and interesting.

What's the matter with Cornish winning? He has done things no Canadian has ever done in the CFL, more than once.

guyser · December 20, 2014

What's the matter with Cornish winning? He has done things no Canadian has ever done in the CFL, more than once.

Agreed.

It would appear that if it isnt someones fav then the award is a waste of time, notreflective of all of Canada , a lousy sport and so on.

Youre right, Cornish did what non had done before (CDN) and so did Humphries and so was the synchro award.

Boges · December 20, 2014

Agreed.

It would appear that if it isnt someones fav then the award is a waste of time, notreflective of all of Canada , a lousy sport and so on.

Youre right, Cornish did what non had done before (CDN) and so did Humphries and so was the synchro award.

And so did Bouchard. In a much more prestigious sport with much more competition.

guyser · December 22, 2014

And so did Bouchard. In a much more prestigious sport with much more competition.

Bouchard won a major?

I must have missed that one. But , hey if she did, then good on her and she should have won the LM award then.

Boges · December 23, 2014

Bouchard won a major?

I must have missed that one. But , hey if she did, then good on her and she should have won the LM award then.

No. She made a Majors final and 3 majors semi and became the first Canadian Woman to rank in the Top 10 World Rankings. Dominating in Women's Bobsled is a lot less impressive than being a top 10 player in women's tennis. How many women even participate in Bobsled?

Christine Sinclair didn't win anything either.

Edited December 23, 2014 by Boges