Newfoundlander Posted January 25, 2012 Author Report Posted January 25, 2012 Dartmouth ColeHarbour has an NDP Nomination meeting where some 2000 people voted in 2004. They lost that election.Nomination turn out Don't mean squat. Seriously it is like you have never been involved in politics. I've been involved in politics enough to know 400 people showing up in the deceased leader's riding is pitiful. Quote
Smallc Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 Why is this in provincial politics. Quote
cybercoma Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 Why is this in provincial politics. Becuase it has to do with local riding issues in a federal by-election, duh. Quote
sharkman Posted January 26, 2012 Report Posted January 26, 2012 Wow, Layon's seat is still vacant? That seems an uncommonly long time. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Posted February 4, 2012 Andrew Keyes will be the Conservative candidate. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Posted February 5, 2012 The by-election is set for March 12. The Liberals seem to have screwed up any chance of winning this riding by waiting so long to nominate a candidate, the NDP should have an easy win. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Posted February 10, 2012 Grant Gordon has been selected as the Liberal candidate. Quote
punked Posted February 10, 2012 Report Posted February 10, 2012 Grant Gordon has been selected as the Liberal candidate. How many people they get out? Someone told me the NDP only got 400 so what is the number? Quote
Newfoundlander Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Posted February 10, 2012 How many people they get out? Someone told me the NDP only got 400 so what is the number? They had 355. Quote
punked Posted February 10, 2012 Report Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) They had 355. Get that from the star story that says the NDP had 500 at theirs? Wait you said 400, oh that is the people that attended not voted? So I'll ask again how many they get it? The cbc reports 200. Even with that BS pro life story they are half as good as the NDP eh? I like how you tired to compare apples to oranges though, like a true Liberal. http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1129106--liberals-pick-newcomer-grant-gordon-for-toronto-danforth-race http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/02/09/toronto-danforth-liberal-nomination.html?cmp=rss Edited February 10, 2012 by punked Quote
Newfoundlander Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Really cbc is reporting 200. Good try Liberal inflating the number. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/02/09/toronto-danforth-liberal-nomination.html?cmp=rss Well according to twitter they had 355 votes out of 800 eligible members in TD. You don't have to be arrogant all the time just because you're a Dipper you know. Edited February 10, 2012 by Newfoundlander Quote
punked Posted February 10, 2012 Report Posted February 10, 2012 Well according to twitter they had 355 votes out of 800 eligible members in TD. You don't have to be arrogant all the time just because you're a Dipper you know. Don't get mad cause I called you out, I didn't set the bar by saying 400 is unimpressive you did. Now your guys got half that number so what does that say about them? Quote
Newfoundlander Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Don't get mad cause I called you out, I didn't set the bar by saying 400 is unimpressive you did. Now your guys got half that number so what does that say about them? It's not my guys you fool. I'm going by what was being tweeted by the people who were there and heard the official numbers by the returning officer. It's not my fault the public broadcasters says there was a crowd of 200, which there very well could have been seeing voting took place for 2 hours. Edited February 10, 2012 by Newfoundlander Quote
punked Posted February 10, 2012 Report Posted February 10, 2012 It's not my guys you fool. I'm going by what was being tweeted by the people who were there and heard the official numbers by the returning officer. It's not my fault the public broadcasters says there was a crowd of 200, which there very well could have been seeing voting took place for 2 hours. Really yet you reported the 400 number as your estimate even though the vote count for the NDP meeting was over 500. Why might we cheery pick two clearly different numbers? For the Liberals you listen to their vote report, for the NDP it is all about what the estimate from the media is eh? Convent don't cha think? Quote
Newfoundlander Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Posted February 10, 2012 Really yet you reported the 400 number as your estimate even though the vote count for the NDP meeting was over 500. Why might we cheery pick two clearly different numbers? For the Liberals you listen to their vote report, for the NDP it is all about what the estimate from the media is eh? Convent don't cha think? I'm so sick of you being such a partisan idiot. You asked a question I gave you the answer if you don't like it I could not care less. Next time look it up for yourself instead of asking. Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted February 10, 2012 Report Posted February 10, 2012 There was a period of time where we Liberals managed to consistently win 97% or more of the seats in Ontario. This was a period of time with not only a divided right, but an NDP doing worse in the province than ever before or since. You can not compare this period of time, in Ontario, with any other. Thus, if you want to look at elections in Ontario ridings, you need to ignore the period from 1993 to 2003. Ignoring those years for the reasons I've outlined, we find the Liberals won the riding once (in 1988) by 3%, since 1965. In 1963, we won the riding, but in every election prior to that (back to 1935) it was in fact the Tories who had won the riding. Prior to that, every election was won either by the Tories or Independents. In sum, the riding has been won... 2 times by Liberals outside the 97% era 4 times by Independents 26 times by Tories 13 times by the NDP And 3 times by Liberals inside the 97% era. For a total of 26 Tory wins, 13 NDP wins, and a combined total of 9 wins by others. We Liberals are not going to win the riding, not should we. There is no Liberal base in the riding, and outside the 97% era, there never was. If you think this riding is the Liberals to lose, than so is Niagara West, Leeds, and Halton Hills. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Newfoundlander Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Posted February 10, 2012 I can't imagine the Liberals winning now, however the NDP wins in the riding were never that large, except for Layton's last May. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 10, 2012 Report Posted February 10, 2012 I'm so sick of you being such a partisan idiot. You asked a question I gave you the answer if you don't like it I could not care less. Next time look it up for yourself instead of asking. I can see you're frustrated, but no need to insult. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Newfoundlander Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Posted February 10, 2012 I can see you're frustrated, but no need to insult. That was being nice. Quote
punked Posted February 10, 2012 Report Posted February 10, 2012 That was being nice. I have met many Liberals who are much meaner for sure. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Posted February 11, 2012 I have met many Liberals who are much meaner for sure. I've haven't interacted with many commies, but you're by far the worse. Quote
Evening Star Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 I can't imagine the Liberals winning now, however the NDP wins in the riding were never that large, except for Layton's last May. 45-29 in 2008, 48-34 in 2006. Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 2011 Liberal - 17.62 N.D.P. - 60.80 CPC * - 14.32 2008 Liberal - 29.38 N.D.P. - 44.78 CPC * - 11.65 (4th behind Greens) 2006 Liberal - 34.23 N.D.P. - 48/42 CPC * - 9.90 2004 Liberal - 41.34 N.D.P. - 46.34 CPC * - 6.21 2000 - 97% era Liberal - 51.90 N.D.P. - 27.65 CPC * - 15.72 (PC 3rd, CA 4th) 1997 - 97% era Liberal - 49.76 N.D.P. - 32.77 CPC * - 15.28 (Ref 3rd, PC 4th) 1993 - 97% era Liberal - 61.07 N.D.P. - 13.95 CPC * - 20.63 (Ref 3rd, PC 4th) 1988 Liberal - 38.89 N.D.P. - 35.96 CPC * - 22.42 1984 Liberal - 18.34 N.D.P. - 45.59 CPC * - 34.67 1982 by Liberal - 9.73 N.D.P. - 39.11 (Winner) CPC * - 49.93 (Combined for effect, Independent-PC and PC) 1980 Liberal - 33.04 N.D.P. - 40.37 CPC * - 23.92 1979 Liberal - 27.98 N.D.P. - 39.72 CPC * - 30.08 * = merged party results during the 97% era, and PC Party prior. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Newfoundlander Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Posted February 11, 2012 45-29 in 2008, 48-34 in 2006. When you consider that the leader of the NDP was running in the district, which always had strong NDP support, Layton's numbers weren't great, though the gap between him and the Liberals continued to widen. Quote
punked Posted February 12, 2012 Report Posted February 12, 2012 When you consider that the leader of the NDP was running in the district, which always had strong NDP support, Layton's numbers weren't great, though the gap between him and the Liberals continued to widen. You are just seeing the recovery of the NDP brand over time from the Bob Rae days. Quote
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