Who really took the "sures" out?

[Topaz]

The NDP are saying that Clements took the "sures" out of the comments he made at the committee hearing on the G8 and Tony says he didn't. The more important part of this is the statement he made when asked if he could give the committee the document/s, Charlie Angus wanted from him and Clements reply was "sure". The Committee still has seen those documents and this looks like another detainee document problem. After reading the following article, I wonder if Tony had two-tiered documents floating , one for show , one NOT to show. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/curious%2Bcase%2Bmissing%2Bsures/5758759/story.html

[fellowtraveller]

I guess you did not read your own link:

NDP staffers have done a good job digging up information on this file and forcing Clement to account for himself, but they told me Wednesday that only two "sures" were removed from Hansard, suggesting a strong circumstantial case for political manipulation of the record.

I compared the documents side by side, though, and you can see an editor has cleaned up a lot of the text, removing lots of words from everybody's rambling speeches. Clement often begins his responses by saying "sure," a kind of verbal tic.

The editors removed some and not others, seemingly at random.

So Clement likely didn't alter the record, and likely the NDP got a little

Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/curious%2Bcase%2Bmissing%2Bsures/5758759/story.html#ixzz1edwDM0A1

Looks like the 'NDP staffers ' are liars, and thw writer of this article is a fool. Quelle surprise.

[olp1fan]

I guess you did not read your own link:

Looks like the 'NDP staffers ' are liars, and thw writer of this article is a fool. Quelle surprise.

Yeah, you can edit your transcripts but a "sure" is an absolute, it's not like it is an extra word like, um, okay

Someone is in hot water

[fellowtraveller]

Yeah, you can edit your transcripts but a "sure" is an absolute, it's not like it is an extra word like, um, okay

Someone is in hot water

But having read the article, you would now agree that the NDPn staffers are liars, and the tone of the article shifts quite significantly as the author acknowledges that the editors of Hansard are not Tony Clement, and that they routinely edit lots of stuff and did so as per usual in this case.

[olp1fan]

But having read the article, you would now agree that the NDPn staffers are liars, and the tone of the article shifts quite significantly as the author acknowledges that the editors of Hansard are not Tony Clement, and that they routinely edit lots of stuff and did so as per usual in this case.

probably wasn't clement, had to be one of his staffers

the only people that can do that is the MP and his staffers

but then again Clement told his staffer to get the U.S to put Canada on the list of countries that violate copyrights with Russia, China, Iran

so I don't give a f*** if he isn't guilty this time

this man has told his staffers to do devious shit before

wouldn't put it past him again

Edited November 24, 2011 by olp1fan

[punked]

But having read the article, you would now agree that the NDPn staffers are liars, and the tone of the article shifts quite significantly as the author acknowledges that the editors of Hansard are not Tony Clement, and that they routinely edit lots of stuff and did so as per usual in this case.

Having read the article I realize it is an opinion piece and the author states he doesn't care how much money the conservatives waste in it. So really from that point on I really don't care what his OPINION is of his Opinion piece.

[fellowtraveller]

the only people that can do that is the MP and his staffers

but you can see that neither Clement or his staff act as editors of Hansard in any way.

so I don't give a f*** if he isn't guilty this time

I see. You do not support due process, if he displeased you once he is automatically guilty of whatever you choose thereafter.

[Guest Manny]

Right, and next time the politician is caught lying he can say, was a verbal tick.

[fellowtraveller]

Having read the article I realize it is an opinion piece and the author states he doesn't care how much money the conservatives waste in it. So really from that point on I really don't care what his OPINION is of his Opinion piece.

I think you are just choking on the fact -not opinion- that the NDP staffers were caught lying.

[olp1fan]

I think you are just choking on the fact -not opinion- that the NDP staffers were caught lying.

Like he said, it is an opinion piece by a con supporter

Your propaganda doesn't mean jack to us

[olp1fan]

but you can see that neither Clement or his staff act as editors of Hansard in any way.

I see. You do not support due process, if he displeased you once he is automatically guilty of whatever you choose thereafter.

Dude is the guiltiest man in the party, like I care what takes him down as long as it takes him down

Its like how OJ got away with murder but got taken down by trying to steal back his property

Karma is a bitch

[Moonbox]

Karma is a bitch

As are the bedwetting sensationalists who whine and fuss and spin every little possible thing into grand Tory conspiracies. What a boring thread.

[fellowtraveller]

As are the bedwetting sensationalists who whine and fuss and spin every little possible thing into grand Tory conspiracies. What a boring thread.

The fascists always reveal themselves

[Tilter]

The fascists always reveal themselves

As implied by the poster's name--- the kettle occasionally calls the pot black.

[Topaz]

The point still remains, Tony hasn't handed over the documents that the NDP had and that they asked for when Tony said "sure".

[Moonbox]

The point is still a big yawn.

[cybercoma]

It doesn't matter who took the "sures" out. He admitted to saying it and hasn't produced what was asked of him. The Hansard Record is nothing more than a red herring.

[scribblet]

It's a total non issue, Clement has been cleared and is owed an apology.

[olp1fan]

It's a total non issue, Clement has been cleared and is owed an apology.

he is the one who should apologize for lying and squandering 50 million on crap for his own riding

[scribblet]

Pork barreling is another issue, but an apology from the NDP for the baseless accusations and lies should be made.

[mentalfloss]

It doesn't matter who took the "sures" out. He admitted to saying it and hasn't produced what was asked of him. The Hansard Record is nothing more than a red herring.

Exactly.